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Either scenario plausible. Ego is an enemy and we should only fly rested. I can't believe the dumb risks I took flying tired. Without Gods grace I would be CFIT too.

Big Air Force to AFSOC:

Like Epstein

Tangentially related. On a trip to Europe in January I got to spend a day in Normandy. BTW a day alone is nowhere near long enough. Please put a visit on your bucket list. Standing on the beaches of Omaha and Utah to the Cemetary at Colleville-sur-Mer to the D-Day aid station in the 12th Century Church at Angoville-au-Plain that still has blood-stained pews 80 years later I felt like I hardly deserved to be in the presence of such greatness and sacrifice. Our guide (former British Military so he could discuss it from a military perspective) not surprisingly said not many tours come by in the cold winter months, but the silence afforded in his mind allowed a proper solemnity for the time and place. One fact he mentioned was that only 550 or so German troops were on duty at the time of the initial landings which dumfounded me because we all know the carnage inflicted on the American troops.

Hear me out here. Lets just give the tower or ground crews universal fuel shutoff switches to aircraft engines. Every guy on the line and in the tower has kill switch app on their phone. Problem solved.

Over the last 25 years I've been on this forum, I thought I'd already read the most inane and pointless chaff possible. (checks Baseops and reads this thread) Ope, I guess not. This is the low-water mark. Carry on.

Pretty crazy. Lots of videos that confirm this view.

I don't really have an opinion on Tim Kennedy because I don't really follow him or know the story. I didn't even know who he was until recently. I'm just truly skeptical when stories suddenly come out of the woodwork about people like this. He's become a political figure, and when you do that, hate will follow as your opposition tries their level best to discredit you. When it comes to military haters, the hate really flares up if your service is used to propel that gain, especially if it puts you in the spotlight. Then all the dick measurers come out to compare number, suck factor and duration of deployments, as if they charge the machine gun nests at Utah beach. Of course many have no problem using their service to get them a high paying civilian job, often one where they continue to suck off the government tit while collecting a pension and VA...100% of course because their sleep apnea and plantar fasciitis flared up at year 19. You must do all this quietly without any fanfare. I've never bought into the idea that the government gets to exploit you for all your worth, but you must not exploit your service to get ahead in the civilian world. Based on their actions, many who tout this don't really believe it either. As far as claiming medals, ya that ain't cool. I truly despise our medal system as it's become more of a check box or a system to help propel the shiny pennies. The ribbon rack on my blues collecting dust in the closet is still the ribbon rack from when I was a SSgt.

R, D, L, I, whatever. If they’re ing around with kids (or anyone for that matter) they should be hung Sent from my iPad using Baseops Network mobile app

If there is/was a list of rich dudes who like to fuck children, I'd like to know who else was on said list besides Prince Andrew. This is something that should not be allowed to be just forgiven. I don't care which political party the rapists are affiliated with. I have zero trust in our civilian leadership regarding this issue.

Comey, Brennan, and Clapper under DOJ investigation. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-cheers-fbi-probe-of-former-foes-comey-and-brennan-over-russiagate-investigation-they-re-crooked-as-hell/ar-AA1IhLHm?ocid=BingNewsSerp Would love to see some SWAT-style raids and perp walks. A boy can dream...

U-2 bros right now

Multiple decades, multiple platforms, communities, MAJCOMs, and GCCs. Have watched our support functions go down the drain across the board and the burden continue to be delegated to the ones on the pointy end that actually need the most support to do their jobs, take care of their families, and execute the Service’s core missions. But it wasn’t until leading hundreds of enlisted Airmen across scores of AFSCs that I truly felt the “what are we doing here” hit me in the deepest parts where I’d previously managed to keep alive that spark of pride of service. Showing up late, leaving early, doing the bare minimum and often not even that… some not even able to wear their uniforms, no interest in the actual mission (sometimes lip service and often complaining, but no motivation when given opportunities to participate)… an unhealthy focus on unearned awards, decs, inflated EPBs, and “good deals”… Get off the flight line for a tour or two into a job where enlisted outnumber officers by 100:1 and you’ll see. But at the same time I can’t blame “the enlisted”. It’s culture. It starts with accessions and boot camp, tech school, senior enlisted, and the officers that lead them. That is not to say a single officer can make the changes needed — despite higher leadership edicts and Dunning-Kruger-officer platitudinisms to the contrary. That may sound bitter, but I’m not passed over or at risk of not promoting again. It’s watching officer peers promote with half the motivation, half the understanding of the mission, half the time in service (when weekly input/output is considered), and embodying all of the same “enlisted” issues highlighted above, at senior grades, that is crushing… but they checked the boxes. It’s institutional, and maybe we should start there.

Is he they guy in the pilot uniform doing videos? If so, I don't watch just for that fact alone.

Absolutely. I didn't see in the initial reports who was asking the question and who was denying touching the switches, I just assumed it was the fo denying it. But if it was the other way around, I have no difficulty imagining your scenario. Like I said, High context societies... It was always 99% that this was going to be pilot error

And the depraved things they've done. Why young girls, never understood it. Sick f@cks.

Mayorkas deserves the book thrown at him. Biden was braindead but Mayorkas knew without a doubt the treason he was committing on the border. Try him and hang him!

I figured that out as well. It's vomit inducing to let them all get a pass. I want the rapists to go to jail.

Being retired enlisted in a huge maintenance squadron OMS, AGS, or AMXS, pilots do not get or very little exposure to enlisted unless they fly a heavy with loadmasters/boomers, Flight engineers or flight mechanics. But that is a small exposure just to get todays mission done. They don't deal with the personnel issues such as EPR's, training, or discipline. We have junior mx officers with a MSgt Pro Super tied to them to keep them out of trouble before a O5 SQCC makes their life a living hell. My neighbor is a retired Army Apache pilot who was the MX officer in his unit, he flew all the OCF/FCFs before a line pilot flew it, totally different culture. It's been a while since the USAF had rated Mx officers and awhile MX was assigned to Ops squadrons. In the early 90's many OPCC's flew their jets into the ground not managing acft hours telling the MX officer and Senior Es to shut up and color. Try being in those squadrons with a bunch of whiney ABM's.

Wonder who he works for now. Drones, they got some pretty high speed ones nowadays.

Need one of you airliner guys to do some scientific work here. Need times from cutoff to non lethal fan speed. Only way this is getting solved.

F-104s out of Kennedy Space

Yeah, I was taken aback, said 2 star had been at a couple meetings, visited my boss to talk shop / bullshit a bit and seemed ok overall. I was surprised that a fighter guy would crap on it, LA posed and still poses no threat to the manned fighter mission. They operate in different roles now and really even during GWOT. When A-1s and AT-37s were introduced in Vietnam, they didn’t take missions from -105s, -4s, etc… same thing in GWOT and now.

Haven't watched Capt Steve.

Reverse your roles. FO was pilot flying and he queried the CA about the motors, who denied taking any action, despite the recorded events on the box saying each switch was cycled off then on. Having encountered enough Indian aircrews, I can readily imagine a senior CA denying any error. I can imagine a few senior CA I've flown with in the USA doing the same. Ego gets strong with some.

If this doesn't hit you in the feels then you ain't got no feels. Daughters are different than sons. I think you have to have both to truly know the difference. I've got grandaughters now that have been in car seats in my truck. Not saying sons are any less special.

Wonder what the autopsy will reveal as the cause of death. COVID?

Dual engine failure is ENGINE CONTROL STITCHES (Both) - CUTOFF THEN RUN. Next step is RAM AIR TURBINE SWITCH - PRESS.

KSPS 25-07 AD F22 F35 TBD F35 TBD F16 TBD F15E F15E ADAIR T38 T38 FAIP T6 FAIP B2 B52 KC135 Fairchild E3 RC135

Whichever country was running that operation had it nailed. Bad ass island party with tippy top of the food chain from every corner of the world. Get a bit of booze in em, hey check out that girl, filmed in the act, and bobs your uncle.

The amount of money and power on that list.....

The odds that this was going to be anything other than crew-induced was always astronomically low. Simultaneous dual failures, while at the most critical phase of flight, in an established aircraft is possible, but come on.

Down goes Frasier, er, Horner! https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/other/red-bull-says-longtime-f1-team-principal-christian-horner-has-been-released-from-his-duties/ar-AA1IfDME?ocid=BingNewsSerp Sorry , not sorry

I'm not defending, but look at MAGA tweets during the LA Fires. Same bullshit.

Do both... Pretty sure an Only"Fans" account that just posts gratuitous close up photos of C-130 engines covered in leaking oil and hydraulic fluid would make you a millionaire overnight just from @M2's secret combat pornography budget

OA-1K can't fly IMC yet so they aren't ready to be a tanker...

Fair enough, allow me to amend my statement: Clearly he's not an airlift pilot. I know many tanker pilot that I like. I also know for a fact that airlift and tanker mentalities are distinctly different. They both go push hard to hack missions, but they hack very different missions with very different users. Airlift pilots (my perspective being as a 20 year C-130 guy) interface daily with all ages, all ranks, and most services. We get to taste the how and why of pretty much every corner of the military with few exceptions. That allows the opportunity to gain a broad perspective. Granted not all of us take that opportunity, but it's there nonetheless. From an airlifter's perspective, our community was screwed over by more than one tanker pilot commander trying to run airlift units like tanker units...(which incidentally was the only time I ever experienced an open ranks inspection after basic, thanks two tanker O-6's who's names I shall not repeat, but I digress)...which has left a long-standing scar tissue in the memory of many a herk driver. In the end I said what I said. Ratner sounds like he thinks his perspective as a pilot is one we all share, when in fact it is not. It's been a trend these past few days over several threads: The air India crash was caused by a bad FO, then pilots should shut down motors in response to events they can't even physically see, now pilots need to understand the importance of discipline because we live in a bubble and don't understand the rest of the military. Wrong on all fronts. Three times is a trend.

Definitely Little Rock area. ASP and Arkansas LE in general has some real gems and have for many years. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjEhKTnlMCOAxX04ckDHboYPR4QFnoECBoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kark.com%2Fnews%2Fworking4you%2Farkansas-state-police-settle-pit-maneuver-lawsuit-which-injured-pregnant-woman%2F&usg=AOvVaw2WALwAbj99a9jKiqfbIYE4&opi=89978449 Arkansas trooper retires after PIT maneuver on wrong car | thv11.com Most agencies don't want to fund air units because of the cost but if you ask me to avoid one multi-million-dollar lawsuit its paid for itself. Not to mention realizing you're never going to outrun an aircraft you have a substantial deterrent effect.

Or a super drink off, bunch of amateurs around here! (Spoiler, the first round will be too close to call)

Obviously you're not a mobility pilot. You sound more like an eagle driver who's only interaction with E's was when you yelled at your crew chief. Another swing and a miss. Many AF pilots are intimately familiar with actively leading 18 year-old aircrew, maintainers, and support troops. Talk to any AC who's taking crewed aircraft on a 3 week trip or any major who's been a detco for weeks on end. Your experience is not everyone else's. Maybe come out of your echo chamber. I've worked indepth with many marines. They agree: Open ranks inspections are worthless outside of boot camp. They pursue discipline in far more functional and useful ways.

...or just continue being a spaz...your call

Back at cha. Biff says adios and you get in my grill over this? Dude dove in. He was a gonner regardless of crew actions, including trying the shut the engines down if they saw him. Sorry Biff, but dude got triggered by me for some reason and not anyone else, so calling it out.

Truly the greatest generation if you’re interested in the minutiae of D-day at Omaha beach, highly recommend Omaha Beach by Balkoski. This book delves down to the second when things occurred and gave me a whole new appreciation of the hell those guys went through securing the beach head.

Saw this tidbit in an article about Norway acquiring the Whiskey https://breakingdefense.com/2025/07/us-clears-norway-to-purchase-hh-60w-helicopters/ This move shifts the mission from the Huey, originally slated for the Boeing MH-139 Grey Wolf, to the more advanced HH-60W.

What's crazy about UKR and all their drone stuff is they assign point values to targets, just like a video game. I'm waiting for their PR department to ramp up a TV show to highlight things a kill leader board with cool names like Dr Boom and The Kill of the Week ala Zombieland.... poor flat bastard.

I'm not so sure anything in space is safe if shit really kicks off

Over the years, I’ve seen numerous discussions here about the potential impact of Cyber on warfighters, the threat posed by China, and what the AF and DoD should do. i highly recommend anyone interested in the current focus on 2027 and beyond should listen to a podcast called “To Catch a Thief.” There are 9 episodes and it is well worth listening to, especially if you have more than a 20 minute drive to/from work. If you can’t muster that much attention span, just listen to the last episode. Nicole Perleroth worked for the NYT, and reminds mo of the stories of a conservative being “a liberal who got robbed.” check it out, you should be able to use it for PME credit or CEUs if you have any computer certification. https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/to-catch-a-thief-chinas-rise-to-cyber-supremacy/id1798267956