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When the other candidate continues to question the legitimacy of the election, I would say that is more than hyperbole. When did Trump say storm the capital, please show me that. Now if you want to fault him for his comments about the VP, for saying "stop the steal", or for not being a leader and stepping forward sooner to stop what was happening I completely agree, but when you fabricate facts you lose all credibility. "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." AGAIN, I've said i don't support Trump, and as I predicted he would use the Twitter files to concoct another lunatic rant which includes suspending the Constitution. Here is what I simply don't understand, if all the warriors on this forum swore an oath to the Constitution how can you be so nonchalant about the possibility that an American Presidential Election was influenced and likely tampered with by a big tech company, and that elements of the FBI played a part in that. Do you hate the Orange man that much that you will simply turn a blind eye? For the 1000th time I want Trump to go away, but I want justice and the integrity of our system more than anything.

You know what would be revolutionary though.. if we actually buy the number of them we said we will

I get really irritated with the “election denier” claims that are made against people by the media. It’s the end of democracy blah blah blah. Their defense is always to go on the offense. It was absolutely crystal clear during that election cycle that there was interference going on. And it wasn’t the Russians on behalf of Trump like we were told for years and years. The election was rigged by social media, the mainstream media, the Democrat Party and 3 letter agencies of the government. Trump was crushed by the machine while Biden was propped up. All while suppressing Hunter’s shenanigans and business dealings. It’s all going to start coming out starting with what Musk is doing with Twitter. And it’s not like we got anything good out of it. This administration is an absolute train wreck.

Slightly different spin on this. Been in 22 years, almost all of that time has been as a part timer (I only take orders for deployments generally), and i've been an airline guy for the last 10+ years. I love going down range and doing the mission, but I absolutely regret going on orders nearly every time I do so. I just started a 5 month activation order and I've worked more in the last two weeks, then I worked in the last 2 months (combined) at Delta. I really don't know how guys do this shit for an entire career...painful! Very few of the "improvements" the AF has made in my career, has made life easier. DTS, AROWS, MyEval, JMPS (long live CFPS/Falcon view lol), AFFORGEN...DUBYA TEE EFF!!! It seems like nearly every time we try to do things, it's one self-imposed (big AF) road block after another. It's like the AF just sits around and dreams up shit to make life harder for the individual. I'm retiring this summer and I can't wait. I'll miss the flying but not much else. I'll maintain most of the camaraderie because nearly my entire squadron lives within a 4 sq mile area...my 2-3x weekly coffee/bourbon stops at bros houses will continue. Now get off my lawn!

I sharted putting on my body armor stepping and had to tell my CSO sq/cc the nebulous “I’ll meet you at the crew bus”, crab walk my way back to our dorm, furiously strip my boots, pants, and shit filled underwear off, use a dirty undershirt to wipe, find new pants, and then run to the crew bus. so yes I had to leave that surprise for y’all to find 😂 Good times.

Man somebody should pay you to curate a list of batshit alt-right obscure no name "news" sites. The links you come up with make newsmax and oan look reputable by comparison. Why didn't Paul Pelosi "run away" from his attacker? Must be some giant conspiracy.. or perhaps.. and hear me out on this one because it's pretty wild.. he didn't scamper away because he's eighty-fucking-two years old

No surprise that this conversation is trying to be steered away from the main issue. No one cares or is debating what Elon should be spending his time or money doing or what his best skills are. The issue is the blatant hypocrisy of the left and the fact that they now want to sack an individual they used to love because he doesn’t toe their leftist line. The Biden administration wants to investigate Musk as a potential national security threat now due to this Twitter purchase. They of course claim this is “standard procedure”, despite Elon and his companies having in been involved in national security related activities for years now. All this is, is proof that the current admin and the leftists supporting it are threatened by anyone and everything that doesn’t support the approved narrative and will stop at nothing to try and shut it down and regain control over their own set of approved “facts”.

A little bit of devils advocate here.. It's very difficult to measure something that never happened i.e. the community spread that never occurred as a result of precautions. So saying "zero point zero" of this had any effect is just nonsense. We all logically know that precautions have an effect and the more strictly you adhere to them, the more effective they are. If you went full bubble boy and had no contact with anyone for the past two years, you likely would not have caught covid. We know respirators are better than n95s which are better than surgical masks which are better than cloth masks etc... So quality and level of adherence to precautions absolutely has an effect. But that isn't the takeaway here. And "precautions didn't do shit" is probably the dumbest takeaway possible. Maybe the takeaway here is precautions come with a cost which should be weighed against the risk. And since everyone weighs risks and costs differently it should *generally* be left up to the individual.

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Well, Joe Biden is our president, and I pay taxes, soooo.....

The fact that this administration said they are keeping an eye on twitter should scare the shit out of you.

Is freedom of speech less important than rockets or EVs?

What a collossal bucket of America's response to covid turned out to be. Stores emptied. Stores closed. Goya beans the only thing available on the grocery store shelf. Ammo shortage. Gun prices through the roof. Vaccine touted as "just get on board, it will make this all go away." "Wear your mask. Social distance." I realize a lot of you didn't see it because you can't, but a shitload of people didn't get the vaccine, and those that did well, that didn't really stop the spread. A shitload of people either didn't wear a mask or half assed it. And a shitload of people didn't social distance. If any of you went to the coast during memorial day or the 4th in 2020, 21 and 22 you can attest. So at the end of the day zero point zero of that shit had any effect. Good god there are a shitload of brainwashed idiots in America.

100% right. The FBI had in their possession proof of multiple felonies. Instead of investigating or prosecuting, they hid those crimes and even deceived tech companies into thinking it was Russian disinformation so they would silence investigative journalists. This is deeply partisan criminal behavior, and clearly not an isolated incident. We have the largest and most advanced law-enforcement agency in the history of the world orchestrating third party First Amendment suppression, at massive scale, to manipulate citizens and change election outcomes. Is there a more serious scandal in American history?

Have you ever heard of 230? Of course there is a case when they hide behind 230. As for the FBI, it should be far more than criticism, the depths of rot are actually frightening. Just curious, have you looked at anything Elon has released? By name they have the FBI agent that met with Big Tech weekly SPECIFICALLY said there would be an October surprise and it would have something to do with Hunter Biden. They knew about the laptop, they knew it was real yet they put their fingers on the scales that at least impacted the election. I don't care which side of the aisle you are on, that should make your blood boil as an American.

Fact - Big Tech suppressed the laptop story. Fact - The FBI was meeting with Big Tech Weekly Of course you are not nearly as sure, because it didn't happen to your side. Please tell me one negative story about trump or his kids that was suppressed by Big Tech. Dear god, do you actually believe what you just typed. First, as you well know the attention span of the average American is at an all time low. Most Americans now get their news from social media. Additionally, we are completely politically bifurcated, it is the independents who decided most elections and the independents didn't know to go to the NY Post. Not only did they stop users from posting the story, they stopped it from being DM'd or shared on both Twitter and Facebook. Seriously brother, you are a smart dude, you have to understand how this suppressed the story. A story that was TRUE! Here is the money shot, you can't even comprehend that something nefarious might have happened. Sorry brother but I want to know the truth. Put aside your hate for the orange man and think about the long-term impacts on democracy and our way of governance. So flippant about the implications, anything for victory? As long as the Big Guy gets his 10% and you get rid of the orange man all is well...really sad, REALLY sad.

We were doing a lot of cargo only flights during the COVID debacle and the topic of cargo vs pax came up often. The general consensus was it doesn't suck. No pax and no flight attendants made for very peaceful and quiet flights.

My completely uninformed guess is the guy had thousands of hours if he’s flying aircraft like that. I have over 2k hours flying fighters, and only last year I damn near hit someone - misprioritizing a fast rejoin over a safe “it’s not going to happen within these tight time constraints” decision and just not doing it. I’ve done thousands of rejoins, tons of experience…task misprioritization and pressure to “get it done” is a real thing at all levels of flying experience.

After what Elon released last night (with more to follow today), how could anyone ever trust the government again? The First Amendment is first for a reason. Freedom of speech, one of our most basic rights attacked by our own government and political parties.

I have about as much SA on the B-21 program as the average Joe. That said, I found the reveal to be quite anticlimactic. I’m sure it was an extremely important day for the folks working on this thing, and those involved are probably quite proud this evening. Here is to hoping that it lives up to all of the chest-thumping narration we heard tonight.

That's my view of it, although our analysis and takeaways are probably different. There is a reason people are quite happy with draconian measures. Someone earlier typed something to the affect that being controlled makes people feel safe and comfortable and subsequently those people are turned into Kens and Karens to enforce that control because it is now their duty to make sure others are safe and comfortable. These people do not question the source of the measures, don't think through the logic of the measures, and certainly don't question whether or not there is an agenda tied to the measures. Covid was a very ugly full up display of this. The question is why are people like this? This is where I likely part ways with most of the folks on this forum. I see manifestations of this all the time, in every aspect of life. HOAs immediately come to mind. Like good little citizens, they are named covenants instead of mandates. And god help you of a Ken or Karen catches you violating one. I cannot imagine living like that in a country where you don't have to. In the public school system they are named guidelines or charters instead of mandates. Woe unto the person that uses the wrong door, turns the wrong way in the car line, asks to go directly to the student's classroom to talk to a teacher, or any other number of government mandates that serve no useful purpose. This is the why according to a filthy liar. And this is where I part company with most everyone on this forum. We used to be pioneers. That's an important word - pioneer. We used to push west and deal with everything on our own, or at least as much as a wagon train could handle. There were all kinds of threats. But there was no government to save the wagon train. Then we built communities, institutions, and started relying on a centralized agency to oversee these types of things and to provide essential services. Then we REALLY started relying on this centralized agency to make sure things were available. Little things, like say - food and water. We somehow figured that this was the best path forward. And now we find ourselves in a situation where 85% of us are not even semi self-sufficient and in a situation where we depend on that centralized agency. So when that agency starts taking draconian measures, it is perceived by many of that 85% as not only necessary, but moral to preserve the community. And they would be dead if the grocery store ran out of food. I take a different path, and yes I realize that I'm one of those weird people who live out in the woods. But I don't depend on the government for much, especially on what to do to protect myself. Mask mandates, grocery store quotas, vaccine requirements, etc are ludicrous to me and everyone out here where I live. Again, not expecting everyone to be a weirdo and live out in the woods and be self-sufficient like me, but that is my explanation for the eagerness for some of the 85% to adopt draconian measures. Final disclaimer - I know we're not in the 1800s and plenty of intelligent people choose to live in the city and burbs. In fact, most of them do. But when something bad happens I don't need the draconian measures or heavy government overstep that they might. That's important to me.

I'm guessing you didn't listen to the podcast. Yes, I'd like those guys as well. I seriously hope Trump doesn't get the RNC's nomination so a rational adult with a concept of humility can run instead. But I digress. Gabbard clearly doesn't fit in any red or blue box. Important to me personally: Listening to her speak her opinions in a long form setting it's obvious, she's not a tyrant. Sure, I'd prefer a more conservative leader. But she actually learns and is willing to change her opinions on topics. If she's willing to grow and evolve, I think she deserves the benefit of the doubt. Where she used to stand is not where she's standing now. What's more, I'm willing to bet that she has a rational reason for each of her positions. Like an ACTUAL rational, thought out reason. Political figures like that today are few and far between. I'll gladly take an 'opponent' like that instead of Fetterman, Biden, or Pelosi any day. We as conservatives are going to have to realize that finding common ground to move forward as a nation first requires us choose NOT to die on EVERY SINGLE HILL in the political landscape. It requires persuasion and compromise. (yes there are hills to die on, such as transing kids, and teaching CRT to the military, vaccine mandates, etc... but I didn't see any of those big ticket items on your list, but then, everyone's list is different) I specifically hope to see the Democrat party lean more like Gabbard, and the Republican party lean more like Crenshaw. Going hard over Left or Right only leads to tyranny. Yes, the Left is going absolutely nuts right now in our country, but people forget that the Right can do that just as bad. The 50's red scare was very much a product of the political Right, and it led to horrific tyranny of a sort in our country. I'm a history nerd, and I see a lot of parallels in the Right's media narrative leaning that way right now. It's not healthy. I'd enjoy listening to Gabbard and Crenshaw debate all those topics you listed. I'll have to see if they've podcasted together.

Well, let’s see…I would prefer someone who: 1. Doesn’t want to ban AR-15s and similar type sporting rifles 2. Doesn’t want to require backgound checks for private sales…and essentially then creating a registry 3. Didn’t support Bernie Sanders 4. Didn’t endorse Joe Biden 5. Doesn’t support ending cash bail 6. Doesn’t support raising the federal min wage to $15/hr (pre-covid btw) 7. Doesn’t support forcing businesses to provide for family paid sick leave, etc 8. Doesn’t support “free” college…ie forcing taxpayers to pay someone else’s tuition 9. Doesn’t want forced closure of existing nuclear power plants 10. Doesn’t support “Medicare for all” …I can go on, if you’d like? As for who I would support…ummm, a lot of people over her. Rand Paul? Ron DeSantis? Chris Sununu? Nikki Haley?

Mohalab is the entire Kuwaiti experience. Asleep, useless, and mandatory.

It's all perspective. What's your situation? Do you live in Valdosta GA flying UPT lines every day, have a wife from there who's got family in the area? IF you had that gig and could hold it until retirement, of COURSE you'd regret departing to an unknown airline with unknown basing and future instead of staying until retirement or beyond. Contrast that to another situation where you live in Florida, are working a desk job with burned out GS-13's who are basically just waiting to die, you're not flying, and you've been told you have to move to west texas and deploy for one of your last 3 years in the AF. Yeah, you wouldn't regret leaving that. It's all perspective. You get to choose if you're positive or negative about ANYTHING that happens in your life. If you choose to regret leaving, guess what, you'll regret leaving. If you choose to see the bright side of your new job after leaving, you'll see the bright side of your new job after leaving.

To be fair. Twitter hasn't looked good from a financial perspective, ever. It simply isn't a profitable business, and its "valuation" has always been nonsense. Also, characterizing a muzzle loading pistol (alongside a picture of Washington crossing the Delaware) and a sci-fi video game prop (from a game in which totalitarian corporations rule the world) as a picture of "handguns" is well, missing the point I guess.

Is this the origin of the mysterious framed poopy underwear in the Bagram TOC? I left a sticky note requesting the Taliban reach out with answers if they figure it out; nothing heard yet.

Ohhhh, the boom’s dissing the nav! Somebody get me my box lunch while I watch! 😂🤣 (Stated with love and ‘all due’ respect boys)

As your roommate on 5 deployments and still AD slug, this hurts. I’ll forever treasure the memories of you crapping your pants in Bagram and owning that intel SrA in Call of Duty.

I had an awesome career that I’m very thankful for: met tons of great people, flew several aircraft, and got to hurt the enemy. Unfortunately it’s a broken organization led predominantly by petty losers and mini-tyrants. Having looked behind the curtain, it is as bad as the line flying captains think. ETA: I’m retiring in a few months after 21 years. Glad I stayed as long as I did, no regrets about leaving now.

No way that $50 email is legit, and if it actually was, then whoever running this board at Boise is a giant douche. I highly doubt that’s the case.

Maybe they'll declare war on Ukraine? I don't understand the thought process that Ukraine somehow should have their hands tied about what targets they can strike. I get that the rest of the world doesn't want to the war to bring other countries in, but Russia invaded and all of Russia's targets have been in Ukraine. Why should Ukraine be held back from striking Russia? With how much Russia is struggling against Ukraine, I don't imagine Putin wants the war to widen either. The interesting thing to think about if these are drone strikes; does Ukraine now have drones capable of reaching that long range of a target or are there Ukrainian SOF units inside Russia?

Do brains that fly a strategic bomber at subsonic speeds across vast distances to pre-programmed coordinates need to be fast?

They have a whole series of these. https://youtu.be/C4QFmBlpnNw

Flea, I appreciate your principled altruism…. sort of. But I do not want a convicted violent felon flying my family around the country when there are thousands of qualified alternate choices. I wouldn’t care if this guy was a sim instructor (which checks the meaningful employment box and societal integration you mention). Odd risk assessment that JetBlue would hire this dude but not an unvaccinated pilot without a criminal past.

I don't normally allow anyone to watch my children so your point is moot. Regardless, people should be afforded the opportunity to redeem trust and gain confidence in society again. Child sex offenders have extremely low recidivism versus other types of crimes. Also lots of people permanently stigma'd to a list because their 17 to GF's parents didn't like her dating a 19 yo. Everything requires context and evolution of trust. You might not higher a prior child porn addict to be a school teacher but that shouldn't stop them from pursuing law, adult medicine, or even being a pilot. We tend to be stricter as a society with sex crimes because we see them as a perversion of impulse where the person is incapable of self control. However, that isn't the case with the vast majority of felonies and there is nothing specifically impulse triggering about flying an airplane. I work with a lot of justice impacted veterans now. We have hundreds of felons come through our national veterans treatment courts each year. The vast majority are decent people who are guilty of extremely poor decision making and often became entangled with drugs and substance abuse as a means with coping with some very hard realities that the DoD and VA will never do anything to help you for. The vast majority recognize their actions caused hurt to some people and they're truly remorseful for that. With the right guidance and mentorship most go on to be stalwart contributors to our society. Many of the best services to society were provided by people giving gratitude for the forgiveness they were given following something heinous they had done they were sorry for.

I've avoided most online stuff for that very reason. It did come up in my airline's forum... and deteriorated quickly once it became known one person involved had crossed the picket line. The nasty, hateful things that were stated were plentiful. I have since removed myself from that forum.

Thanks for the reference. I can't speak to what happened in the briefing as I wasn't there and have avoided asking anyone about it that was. Russell has been an Air Boss for quite some time. His dad has been doing it for decades, and is one of the most well known people in the entire airshow industry. I have worked with both and consider them both friends, especially the father. The entire thing saddens me deeply and it's best if I leave it at that.

PF into LGA yesterday Figure I checked the NOT decidedly boring square for the next year at least.

I'll bet they're virtual.

Ok, I'll admit I don't agree with many of her positions. If I'm honest, I've NEVER found an actual electable politician that I agree with on most topics. Of all the options out there, she seems intelligent, articulate, clearly hasn't had a stroke, is willing to discuss difficult topics without equivocating on terms, and seems willing to compromise where it's necessary. That list would eliminate most of our current politicians. Hell, she stood up to 3 hours getting asked hard(ish) questions by Jocko. That's got to count for something. Imagine Biden, Pelosi, Fetterman or AOC doing that. Is she my favorite? Nope. But I'd take her and Dan Crenshaw in a heartbeat over the asshats we currently have in power. Who would you prefer?

Crew:"Tower, headed out to Persian Gulf for water work, back in...." Tower" "NEGATIVE, there is no Persian Gulf, you are going to Arabian gulf yes?" Crew: "uh yeah, yup thats the one."

I chuckled

My opinion is those are too personalized to gift. Holsters are like bras. Both gotta fit the way you want or they’re coming off. So I only buy uncomfortable ones for my wife.

Nah, he just left those on the floor for me to high step over like Barry Sanders.

His number 1 priority is to remove child-porn from tweeter. It's amazing how left view that as a bad thing.