The WOKE Thread (Merged from WTF?)

[dream big]

1 hour ago, Smokin said:

To put it simply, they were basically their own county and city government with regards to almost everything infrastructure related.  They ran zoning, roads, maintenance, building inspections, code enforcement, etc.  That basically allowed them to do what they wanted not only with the property they owned, but other their neighbor's property as well.  This was enormously beneficial to the company.  They did it all how they wanted and as efficiently as a for profit company does business.  Now an inefficient government that is not just going to always do their bidding is going to take over all those functions like most other places in the country.  That means they will end up paying more and not always getting what they want.  That also means hotels, which Disney could have prevented before, can now buy and build on property next to the park and now compete more directly with Disney hotels.  Disney will end up paying more in taxes, have more direct competition, and have far less say about what happens around them.  All that will almost certainly hurt their bottom line.

 

The other thing that blows my mind with this is how large companies keep supporting the left.  The left is generally against big business, against free capitalism, for increased taxes, and for increased government regulation.  For example, Bernie Sanders has tried to reverse Disney's purchase of other companies.  When will companies learn to ignore their vocal activist shareholders and just do business?

For your last questions: 

1- Public image, it is socially popular to support leftist interests and be woke.  Thankfully that’s changing recently.  
 

2- Cronyism, the dems may outwardly attack capitalism but then give tons of benefits to companies that support their agenda.  Republicans do it too but it’s more prevalent on the left.  Republicans generally support a more level playing field for all businesses with some exceptions like those in the Dick Cheney era.  

[BFM this]

On 4/20/2022 at 6:11 PM, Danger41 said:

Your guys squadrons actually honor PMCR? 

In the fighter squadrons it wasn't written in any regs, but woe be to the SOB that showed up the next day without rest and there was scheduling fallout.  The attached guys were typically jonesing to get out of the late debriefs as they weren't available anyway the following day and had meetings they couldn't get out of, so at 0230 they were looking at their watches and bolting for the door, knowing they had to be at their desk at 0700 regardless.  

But that Lt FNG better not walk in the door before 12 hours later.

Top3 during 2nd go: "FNG Slapnuts to the ops desk"

FNG SN: "oh yeah I wasn't on the schedule so I was here at 0730"

DO: "MF'er you did WHAT?!?!?!"

There just wasn't extra bodies around so it was an understood standard (sometimes actually in the standards, but not always).

[brabus]

Don’t need Pilot rest for Top 3, mission planning, sims, meetings, etc. At least in my AD past, if you weren’t one of those and not scheduled to fly the next day, you’re a unicorn. So generally there was not 12 hr pilot rest for guys unless they were scheduled to fly the next day. Really loved those 4 hrs of sleep to roll into a 7am sim to start off my next 14 hr day. Go guard!

[tac airlifter]

PMCR is typically for TDYs not daily flights, at least in the communities I’ve been in.  For example, it might be something like “gone 5 days get 1.5 days off.”  If the MAF didn’t have it, they’d never be home.  In SOF I’ve ignored it when there were cool missions I wanted, and no one cared.  However now I make people take it.  Mostly.

[Pooter]

Short of a meeting with the OG or WG/CC I will blow off literally anything early in the morning if I debriefed until 0230 the night before, including a sim.  You aren't getting training value out of a sim on 4 hours of sleep and if you aren't calling uncle on that to your scheduling shop/DO you're part of the problem.  This is exhibit a why people get burned out and leave the Air Force.
 

During normal home station ops there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't get 12 hrs at home at an absolute minimum every night.  Pilot training schedulers somehow manage it every day because it's mandated in the syllabus, and I guarantee they have more flights and sims to schedule than anyone else. 

[TreeA10]

On 4/27/2022 at 7:01 AM, BFM this said:

In the fighter squadrons it wasn't written in any regs, but woe be to the SOB that showed up the next day without rest and there was scheduling fallout.  The attached guys were typically jonesing to get out of the late debriefs as they weren't available anyway the following day and had meetings they couldn't get out of, so at 0230 they were looking at their watches and bolting for the door, knowing they had to be at their desk at 0700 regardless.  

But that Lt FNG better not walk in the door before 12 hours later.

Top3 during 2nd go: "FNG Slapnuts to the ops desk"

FNG SN: "oh yeah I wasn't on the schedule so I was here at 0730"

DO: "MF'er you did WHAT?!?!?!"

There just wasn't extra bodies around so it was an understood standard (sometimes actually in the standards, but not always).

Yep, always the FNG that thought he would show motivation and seriousness by showing up early only to take a verbal beat down while being informed his job is to learn to be a fighter pilot and be ready to fly whether on the schedule or not. Had to explain that to several new guys. RTUs should teach that. 

[brickhistory]

Progress:

https://thekingofstocks.com/2022/05/03/maskless-hillary-clinton-walks-red-carpet-at-met-gala-as-masked-servant-tends-to-her-custom-gown-video/

[GrndPndr]

51 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

Progress:

https://thekingofstocks.com/2022/05/03/maskless-hillary-clinton-walks-red-carpet-at-met-gala-as-masked-servant-tends-to-her-custom-gown-video/

Yeah, that doesn't look good 🤣 .  Sadly however, I think those "helper' folks are there for everyone who stops by to get photographed - so they all got the masked help treatment.  Don't ask me how I know this sort of shit.

 

[Lord Ratner]

On 4/15/2022 at 2:33 PM, bfargin said:

They were very much socialist until they got into power...just like all of the other socialist countries' leadership has done. I'd argue the political spectrum can't be viewed as a tape-measure/line but rather as a loop/circle and the far left and far right meet on the backside at fascism. Small sample but look at the antifa/BLM movements and see how they are fascists in their own right but claim to be on the leftist end of things. Both extremes end with absolute control and tyranny.

Yep, you have to be pants-on-head retarded to think that conservatism or liberalism are somehow inversely connected to fascism.

 

There are no shortage of both liberal and conservative authoritarian regimes. 

 

"Although fascist parties and movements differed significantly from one another, they had many characteristics in common, including extreme militaristic nationalism, contempt for electoral democracy and political and cultural liberalism, a belief in natural social hierarchy and the rule of elites, and the desire to create a Volksgemeinschaft (German: “people’s community”), in which individual interests would be subordinated to the good of the nation."

It takes no effort whatsoever to find the Republican Party and the Democratic Party in that definition.

[arg]

[FLEA]

BLUFF: RAF General Officer resigns over controversial diversity push, causing responses from PM Candidates. 

https://www.foxnews.com/world/british-raf-recruiting-head-resigns-protest-pause-hiring-white-men-appease-diversity-goals-report

[Biff_T]

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/08/30/air-force-leaders-set-new-goals-to-diversify-officer-corps/

The Air Force won't be happy until all CC's are neutered minorities with tits.   

[TreeA10]

9 minutes ago, Biff_T said:

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/08/30/air-force-leaders-set-new-goals-to-diversify-officer-corps/

The Air Force won't be happy until all CC's are neutered minorities with tits.   

Original equipment or after market add ons?  If you say you have said equipment, is a physical exam actually required or is your internal emotions, i.e. your feelings, telling you that you have said equipment good enough?  Just trying to plot out my next career move. 

[waveshaper]

16 minutes ago, Biff_T said:

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/08/30/air-force-leaders-set-new-goals-to-diversify-officer-corps/

The Air Force won't be happy until all CC's are neutered minorities with tits.   

And pass the updated version of this age-old test:

 

[BashiChuni]

1 hour ago, Biff_T said:

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/08/30/air-force-leaders-set-new-goals-to-diversify-officer-corps/

The Air Force won't be happy until all CC's are neutered minorities with tits.   

According to the memo, the Department of the Air Force wants an officer corps that is:

• 67.5% white
• 13% Black/African American
• 10% Asian
• 7% multiracial
• 1.5% American Indian/Native Alaskan
• 1% Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander

 

 

“These goals are aspirational … and will not be used in any manner that undermines our merit-based processes,” the memo said.  HA! sureeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[FLEA]

9 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

According to the memo, the Department of the Air Force wants an officer corps that is:

• 67.5% white
• 13% Black/African American
• 10% Asian
• 7% multiracial
• 1.5% American Indian/Native Alaskan
• 1% Native Hawaiian/Pacific Islander

 

 

“These goals are aspirational … and will not be used in any manner that undermines our merit-based processes,” the memo said.  HA! sureeeeeeeeeeeeeee

These numbers..... Are not in line with the US census numbers at all..... I can understand wanting a racial makeup similar to the US population but these specifically have inflated numbers for some minority demographics.... Specifically Asians (6.1 to 10%), Pacific Islander (.3 to 1.0%), and multiracial (2.9 to 7%). 

Whites under represented by ~10% (75.8 to 67.5%). 

WTF are they aiming to do with this? 

 

[Biff_T]

1 hour ago, TreeA10 said:

Original equipment or after market add ons?  If you say you have said equipment, is a physical exam actually required or is your internal emotions, i.e. your feelings, telling you that you have said equipment good enough?  Just trying to plot out my next career move. 

Exactly!

[jazzdude]

These numbers..... Are not in line with the US census numbers at all..... I can understand wanting a racial makeup similar to the US population but these specifically have inflated numbers for some minority demographics.... Specifically Asians (6.1 to 10%), Pacific Islander (.3 to 1.0%), and multiracial (2.9 to 7%). 
Whites under represented by ~10% (75.8 to 67.5%). 
WTF are they aiming to do with this? 
 

How does this compare with the demographic makeup of our enlisted force?

[kaputt]

Martin Luther King is rolling in his fucking grave. 
 

[Guardian]

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/08/30/air-force-leaders-set-new-goals-to-diversify-officer-corps/


We don’t want racism. But we will push policies that push one race over another if we aren’t meeting an arbitrary percentage number. (Isn’t this institutional racism that we hear people talking about?) The traits we are looking for is genitalia and skin color. As long as we give the appearance of a skin color and genitalia diverse military, everything else will be good.

Think about it. What person, regardless of skin color and genitalia, wants to join an organization that isn’t primarily focused on training and fighting. Winning our countries wars. But we are more focused on ridiculous societal norms of the day. Who wants to join a military (or go to college via affirmative action) knowing that they got hired not because of their ability and hard work but primarily because of skin color and/or genitalia? What about if you didn’t really know after you got hired or picked up if you never found out. If there was always a doubt above your head that you are there because of skin or genitalia and not because of how effective or capable you are. One has to imagine that isn’t a great feeling.

Work hard. Dream big. Never give up. Fly. Fight. Win.

[GrndPndr]

17 hours ago, kaputt said:

Martin Luther King is rolling in his fucking grave. 
 

He's been rolling in his grave for quite some time now.

[TreeA10]

58 minutes ago, Guardian said:

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/08/30/air-force-leaders-set-new-goals-to-diversify-officer-corps/


We don’t want racism. But we will push policies that push one race over another if we aren’t meeting an arbitrary percentage number. (Isn’t this institutional racism that we hear people talking about?) The traits we are looking for is genitalia and skin color. As long as we give the appearance of a skin color and genitalia diverse military, everything else will be good.

Think about it. What person, regardless of skin color and genitalia, wants to join an organization that isn’t primarily focused on training and fighting. Winning our countries wars. But we are more focused on ridiculous societal norms of the day. Who wants to join a military (or go to college via affirmative action) knowing that they got hired not because of their ability and hard work but primarily because of skin color and/or genitalia? What about if you didn’t really know after you got hired or picked up if you never found out. If there was always a doubt above your head that you are there because of skin or genitalia and not because of how effective or capable you are. One has to imagine that isn’t a great feeling.

Work hard. Dream big. Never give up. Fly. Fight. Win.

Summary: What rational person wants to go into combat and depend on leadership or fellow airmen, soldiers, sailors, or marines selected for non-warrior criteria that could get you killed. 

[Magnum]

17 hours ago, Guardian said:

The traits we are looking for is genitalia and skin color.

By genitalia of course you mean the gender by which one identifies as today, right?  Wouldn't want you to be labeled as transphobic.

[dream big]

22 hours ago, Guardian said:

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2022/08/30/air-force-leaders-set-new-goals-to-diversify-officer-corps/


We don’t want racism. But we will push policies that push one race over another if we aren’t meeting an arbitrary percentage number. (Isn’t this institutional racism that we hear people talking about?) The traits we are looking for is genitalia and skin color. As long as we give the appearance of a skin color and genitalia diverse military, everything else will be good.

Think about it. What person, regardless of skin color and genitalia, wants to join an organization that isn’t primarily focused on training and fighting. Winning our countries wars. But we are more focused on ridiculous societal norms of the day. Who wants to join a military (or go to college via affirmative action) knowing that they got hired not because of their ability and hard work but primarily because of skin color and/or genitalia? What about if you didn’t really know after you got hired or picked up if you never found out. If there was always a doubt above your head that you are there because of skin or genitalia and not because of how effective or capable you are. One has to imagine that isn’t a great feeling.

Work hard. Dream big. Never give up. Fly. Fight. Win.

Affirmative action is back! Don’t worry guys it will work this time!

[Guest nsplayr]

On 8/31/2022 at 11:55 AM, FLEA said:

These numbers..... Are not in line with the US census numbers at all.....

When I looked at these targets vs the 2020 US Census they looked pretty close; not sure what data you looked at for the country at large. Using the "race alone" numbers from the 2020 census (i.e. you identify as this race exclusively), here's what it looks like:

• Target White: 67.5%
  • Census White: 61.6%
• Target Black: 13%
  • Census Black: 12.4%
• Target Asian: 10%
  • Census Asian: 6%
• Target Native American: 1.5%
  • Census Native American: 1.1%
• Target Hawaiian/Pacific Islander: 1%
  • Census Hawaiian/Pacific Islander: 0.2%
• Target Hispanic/Latino (although not strictly a "race"): 15%
  • Census Hispanic/Latino (of all races): 32.7%

Multiracial is harder because the census used "some other race" as an option, which 8.4% of respondents chose, but also uses "race together" for people who want to choose multiple races from the above list, and then also tracks "multiracial" as a combined category, which 10.2% of the population falls into. Either way, both 8.4% and 10.2% are higher than the Air Force target of 7% for multiracial.

The target for gender split is also 64% men to 36% women, which obviously significantly over-targets men given that the broader population is much more balanced with women being the slight majority.

It's also worth considering that based on age, the younger age cohorts that would be being targeted by recruiters for military service are also significantly less "white alone" and more racially diverse than the number for the population at large.

So if you wanted an officer corps that was broadly representative of the US population, a worthy goal IMHO depending on how you hope to achieve it, the biggest miss both by percentage as well as in absolute numbers is a significant over-targeting of men vs women, and of white people being disproportionately overrepresented in this hypothetical "target" future officer force makeup.

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Edited September 2, 2022 by nsplayr