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Cargo more difficult to land? Maybe that's true, but it's a numbers game. Each of the Big 3+1 pax carriers have at least 10,000 pilots (correct me pax pilots). FedEx has 5500 pilots, and UPS has...3000? So there is exclusivity simply based on the size of the pilot group. It also doesn't help that FDX/UPS have maybe the most esoteric and antiquated hiring processes. While the pax carriers have shortened their respective HR processes and lowered hiring requirements, the big 2 cargo outfits have remained stubbornly rooting in past practices. Only in the last couple weeks has FedEx changed to virtual day 1 testing, then in person interview for day 2. While 500 TPIC is the published requirement for FedEx (down from 1000 TPIC), Delta etc is hiring a few guys with 0 TPIC. All those trends aside, don't undersell the value of your pedigree as a 20-year military pilot. As stated here, YOU are the target demo for all these HR departments. 20ish years of flying, upgrades, total hours of world-wide flying, etc. They already know the leadership piece is baked into normal military career progression. I hate to repeat what's already been said...that's why most of the time I just STFU on here. But cast a wide net with apps. If you'd be genuinely happy to receive an interview invite from a company, then put that in your top tier. If you could survive at a company while waiting for your top tier, then there's your bottom tier. You don't have a math problem to solve until you've been hired by two airlines. Until then, the decision is simple. You take the first job and grind it out. But it shouldn't be much of a grind if you CHOSE to put in an app. There are a few places that you probably already know are not compatible with your location/family/preferences. All these airlines have pluses/minuses. There is not one clear winner for every pilot. My personal line in the sand is dealing with FAs/pax. I turned down a Delta interview after being hired at FedEx after years of maintaining 7 airlines apps. Guys in my military unit thought I was nuts...mostly pax airlines being represented there. Those guys aren't crazy for loving DAL/UAL/AAL/SWA either. Those are great jobs! Just didn't crack my top tier of Purple/Brown. The subjective trash/treasure concept applies here. Every pilot wants to beat their chest about why their personal decision to go with airline X is DEFINITELY the best job...and it's not totally BS, but a validation of their pick. Nobody says "I'm a below average pilot and a crap interviewer, and I'm settling for Airline Y". You're going to end up somewhere awesome...just don't know where yet. And once your own eyeball sees how Airline X is run, you'll know if it's your final job or not. Sorry for stream of consciousnesses. Best of luck Tac Airlifter and all pilots in this decision region. Once you break free of the welfare mentality of the military, you'll see a massive QoL increase. We're all rooting for you!

Strawman. And there's a certain irony because your stance is all-or-nothing. If it helps at all, we do it, right? That's pretty inflexible. In reality, how much does it help, and what is the required threshold for mandating something? What are the metrics for taking away individual decision making, and what are the metrics for returning it? A lot of this is just ignorance. Most people are never involved in a process that determines the value of a life, or multiple lives. Funnily enough the military does it all the time with collateral damage. And insurance companies have life valued down to the dollar. But every time you get in a car you put other lives at risk. Is it the same risk level as COVID? No. But where's the line between driving and COVID? Isn't it strange that we don't know it, after two years? Who gets to decide? And if it's not up to the individual, does the individual at least have a right to view the process, the metrics, and the data? Most also don't realize how many people die every day. So you get absurd metrics like "1% of everyone over 65 has died of COVID-19." Yup. But over 4% of everyone over 65 dies each year. So what's the point? How many developmentally disabled kids who are *barely* able to comprehend human interactions will be irreparably stunted by the masking and isolation? 1? 100? 1000? How many old lives is that worth? How many fat lives? How many cancer survivors? If parents don't get to make that decision, what are the metrics being used by those who do? What are the government's estimates for childhood developmental damage, and what is their limit for saving the elderly? In the next pandemic, when we have an actually-scary disease, was it worth creating the division and distrust in expertise that we've created with this pandemic? How is it that two years in, the government is only now distinguishing between "died of COVID-19" and "died with COVID?" Do you really think they forgot? No one at the CDC thought that would be relevant until now? There's so much more to this than just "masks do something." You keep throwing the idea of tyranny back at conservatives as though they are making an argument for some sort of Machiavellian takeover of American society. Tyranny most often comes from the idiots and fools, so wildly underqualified for their positions, and deeply aware of it, that they will say or do anything to distract from their nearly-perfect track record of failure. Data and thresholds are the enemy, because they tie a politician to something that can be measured, scored, and held against them at the next election. I'm not concerned about Barack Obama secretly running the Democratic Illuminati from his basement. I'm worried about well-meaning Americans taking the fear mongering and scare tactics of politicians at face value, and sacrificing their Liberty and free will for a threat that is being almost entirely exaggerated and fabricated by politicians. I think I'm wrong? How is it that some of the loudest politicians on the left have been caught violating every safety measure they espouse? Newsome at the French laundry, AOC in Miami. The mayor of Austin going to a wedding. Pelosi going to the hair salon. These are not the actions of people who believe what they are saying. It would be one thing, and still bad, for us to give up our freedom based on the whims of politicians who do not have the data or the thresholds to present us with, but at least believe in their hysteria enough to submit to their own edicts. But we don't. Who are you going to believe? Them, or your own two eyes?

CSO select! It was my number 1 so I’m stoked to say the least! Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

On a positive note, I "speculate" there were over twice as many UPT selects as last year

CEO Bourla says Pfizer vaccines offer limited protection 'if any' and even less against infection (opindia.com) Pfizer CEO once said their shots were "100% effective." Now he just said that two shots "offer very limited, if any protection against Covid-19." This is what happens when a vaccine isn't properly vetted. "Trust the science." Laughable.

The CGO-network goes a long way!... Hope good news comes to you all as it did for me!

Concur - Leading a crew of 13 across the ocean to employ in dynamic CAS fights inside 25 meters while dodging AAA, MANPADS and avoiding clueless chodes in the stack is WAY different than flying around as Blue 4 making "Twoop", "Bingo", "Leads on Fire" and I'll take the fat one" calls.

ADMIN NOTE: I am getting tired of removing offending posts in this thread. If your post is missing, it either violated the rules or quoted a post that did (sorry about that!). A few more spirited individuals will also find their posting abilities restricted for blatant violations, which everyone was warned about. A couple also got friendly warnings to KIO as they were pushing it. The next step is outright bans, I hope it doesn't get to that but if the personal attacks don't stop, we won't have any choice.

I'm putting this here since this is the main political thread, but it could easily go in the WTF thread or numerous others: https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4995564/senator-cruz-questions-fbi-official-ray-epps-role-january-6 Cruz to senior FBI official: "Did the FBI have any agents or confidential informants in the crowd on January 6th? Answer: "Sir, I can't answer that." Why not?

start bugging your CCs, results posted!

Am I the only one thinking “will be out by Wednesday” means it could drop today?

Your PIC is well above average and you should expect calls from every major you apply to in todays hiring environment.

If you want to go to the airlines, your timing is excellent. There are instances of Majors recently hiring 25 year old pilots with no turbine time. The first-hand stories from my friends in the training center at multiple airlines are amazing. 2000 hours, I'm guessing all turbine? I think you'll be fine. Do you want to know what Henry is yelling here? He is saying "If you don't plan to stay for 20, GO NOW!!!"

You're shitting me, right? If you get an interview offer from one of the Big 6, you take it.

Got RPA! My number 1! 92P/66PCSM Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Third time applying for pilot and finally got it. 96P/91PCSM, PPL current CSO/NAV.

You’ve clearly never had to get your own atis and it shows! /s

While we all want to find out yesterday, we should pump the brakes with posting the PSDM before public release. I don’t think the juice is worth the squeeze.

Ha! Glad I’m not the only one. This forum and the UFT portal page are getting some serious traffic.

It would be nice if they could just give us a concrete date for when the release will come out so I could be at peace lol… “probably Wednesday” isn’t as comforting

Well that certainly seems to be the attitude of many commenters here. “Vaccines are less effective than hoped - don’t put that poison in your body.” ”Masks are only 40% effective. No point in wearing them.” “Social distancing is marginally effective. I’ll take that as my cue to party like it’s 1999.” The truth is that there is no silver bullet, not vaccines, not masks, not monoclonals, that will get us out of this mess. All of those things have flaws that make it easy to poke holes in them on an individual basis. But taken in aggregate, they represent a layered strategy that is perfectly reasonable. Is it appropriate to talk about how far we are willing to go with these measures and what that means for economics, American ideals, mental health, and our very social fabric? Of course it is! I WANT to have that conversation. There is a lot of messaging on BOTH sides, however, that is making that conversation almost impossible to have.

Nope, the fault lies with me. My apologies for my brusk post. As others have done, feel free to pm me with specific questions about UAL. Happy to help out.

Military pilots that aren't discrete about dropping mil leave need to grow up and be adults. But it comes down to educating civilian background pilots that are ignorant of the overall situation. Today... with the exception of some Guardsmen/Reservists... the vast majority of military pilots are unable to get started with an airline before the age of 33. Civilian pilots get hired up to 10 years younger than that. Those complaining civilian pilots... and by my observations, they are a very small group... need to stop and look at the top 5% of the seniority list at the major airlines. A disproportionately tiny percentage of those pilots are military background... e.g. nearly all of the most senior pilots are from civilian backgrounds. Are the military pilots being cheated? Uh, no. But the nature or the beast is such that seniority lists favor civilian backgrounds. When these complaining civilians were hired at age 23-31, many said they "hit the lottery" by getting hired at their dream airline. So I ask them, "Why do you care if a pilot goes on mil leave? Military pilots taking 5 years of leave doesn't negatively affect you." - If they're senior to you, it's one less person to bid against for trips and vacation for 5 years. - And if they are junior to you, what do you care? They're junior to you... so is there a problem?? My bud just got hired by UAL less than a year ago. He's 49. Last week, I was on the jumpseat of a 777 and the captain was 50. I looked him up and he was hired at age 23. When he retires, he will be the #3 pilot at United. Two guys nearly the same age. But how do you think their wages and QOL potential will compare to each other in the year 2025? Each path (civ and mil) to the airlines has its pros and cons. Once you're there, work hard to maximize your QOL based on your circumstances. The seniority list is set in stone. And USERRA is a law. So control what you can, and don't be the miserable SOB that no one likes to fly with because someone else "got a better deal".

Here's the thing. If it was total bullshit, it would have warranted and received zero response. Absolutely zero response. The fact that it has received a major response, being addressed by the man himself, and also is now "under investigation" is all you need to know that the allegations are fully credible. And you know what? Someone acting with integrity in the face of other people acting with none is never a foul.

88 Pilot, 86 PCSM, PPL, O7 LoR, 8/157 Wg strat, non-rated (CE). I had an 82 PCSM and no PPL last UFT board and got CSO (#2) but declined it.

Haha classic MPF. I'd like to formally thank AFPC for posting the information to a system only accessible by individuals who have more pressing matters to attend to.

Contact your MPF Flight Commander. They're usually a 1st Lt or Capt. They can pull it up

Agreed. It's posted to the secure version for a reason.

It’s available to MPFs, FSSs, and commanders, so it’s probably easier to call your MPF lol

If someone’s got access be a bro and screenshot that stuff lol

AF Portal Page

My productivity level at work is nearly a 0, while I refresh pages every 2 minutes.

I’ll never understand why it’s so secret when it comes to these boards… Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app

Good to know I'm not the only one with the B-1 problem approaching my UPT ADSC

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No.. but based on all available stats there'd be fewer hospitalizations and deaths. And most likely a reduction in cases resulting in better hospital staffing, fewer airline cancellations etc.. Break/break Man, didn't expect that mask comment to set you guys off so severely. It's really all or nothing with some of you. What I've learned so far: -Precautions are horseshit and not worth doing unless they're 100% effective -Any amount of adherence to public health guidance sets you on an apocalyptic dystopian slippery slope a la 28 days later -Pieces of cloth on our faces are the pre-eminent threat to both our freedom and mental health. -Once they seize control they'll never give it back (except for that time the CDC lifted mask guidance based on data at the time)

FWIW captain from my list trip (regional) was interviewing with Delta. Had 50 turbine PIC. Non Military too. edit: actually got offered an interview when he had 0 PIC I can’t emphasize enough, what has already been said, if you meet the barebones mins to apply just send it. So many data points of people getting hired with way less experience than what used to be the standard. I mean it’s insanity.

You will be able to get hired by a major with 700 PIC. Especially when you check the military container and IP. I would submit apps ASAP. They will call.

Misunderstanding on my part it seems. Yes, certainly apply to more than just the Big 6 if you're willing to go there. Even if uncertain you want to work for a Regional, consider applying because you will likely get called ASAP, and the interview experience could be helpful. What got my attention was your statement that you would turn someone down while waiting for a better option. I don't believe you should do that. If a company offers you a job after your interview, continue down the path with them. You might get trained and fly for them for a few months... and then lo and behold, a better option is offered to you. Now you can make your decision. I know plenty of people recently that were given a job offer... accepted it... and before they even showed up for training, they got another job offer from a company higher on their list. Bottom line: many here will tell you not to turn down an offer. I believe that is good advice. Better to have a paycheck rolling in while you continue to strive for a better job with better wages and working conditions. Turning down choices # 5, and 6 and staying unemployed while you wait for choice #1 will not earn you the sympathy of your colleagues. Nor your wife.

As guys are saying here: Blast to all. Take the first one you get, then get picky. As a mil guy, you need to do one important thing: FLUSH the concept loyalty-based transactional employment. The military actually drills this into us, and we don't realize it. Yes, be loyal to your union and company, but in the end, it's all about the Benjamins. They'd furlough you, so don't feel bad about "wasting a training seat" or some such. Be civil about it if you need to drop out of a class, but don't sweat it either. Speaking to cargo. Yes, it's AWESOME. You'll fly nights, but it's not really that bad, and the pay is worth the disrupted sleep cycle. (by contrast many of those pax pilots are striving to get on a widebody...where you fly lots of overseas nights) Not dealing with pax is completely worth it. Don't buy the hype that cargo is a difficult one to land. If you're specifically looking at UPS or FedEx, yes the process isn't as simple as the pax carriers...but it's not rocket surgery and it's completely worth it. No one knows how UPS hires. Fill out the app and keep updating, it's an exercise in patience. FedEx still has the kick-in-the-shins 2-day interview process from hell. Oh yeah, and update that app every 2 weeks and start as far out (over a year is good) as you can. Both are excellent companies with outstanding pilot groups where you'll want to spend your career. It's the best part-time job in the world. Last bit: Don't be afraid to spend time at a last choice airline. I separated at 17 years while 3 years non-current, joined the reserves and a not-first-choice airline where I worked for a year. It got me a type rating that probably led to getting hired by my top choice. Experience is experience and it helps you get hired. That's happening a lot these days. I'm in training now at my second 121 carrier. We had several people no-show the training, and one guy quit training halfway through to go to another carrier...this is at a top-end company mind you. I saw that happen in both of the 121 training pipelines. It happens all the time. I've personally hear of guys no-showing to training (by taking a different job) at Delta, United, America, UPS, and FedEx. PM me if you want more specifics. I spent the last four years giving this whole process a very hard stare, so it's fresh.

I know guys who have left airline X while in training or IOE when their #1 choice called. It’s just business. Any of the majors wouldn’t hesitate to furlough you if it positively impacted their bottom line. I see this kind of action as returning the favor. Absolutely dance with the first girl who says yes, but if a prettier one suddenly becomes available, follow your instincts.

Not to inflame the mental break you experienced there, but the irony of decrying "liberal mask pussies" while simultaneously condemning a piece of cloth for destroying your entire life is rich.

Off the street hire at a Guard Tanker Unit. January 2022 Update: UPT Dates Finally! AFOQT/TBAS: July 2016 Board: November 2019 Hired: November 2019 MEPS: Passed April 2020 amid the 'rona outbreak. Enlistment: June 2020. FC1: September 29, 2020 FC1 Stamped Approved: November 2020 NGB approval: March 2021 OTS: August 2021 UPT: March 2022 - March 2023, Laughlin AFB, TX. Looks like its still UPT 2.0 from how my TLN is coded. FTU: ???

Talk to your Shirt, too. The good ones are magical dealing with "people problems." The CC will have to sign off, but (good) Shirts have immense resources and connections.

Was it in poor taste? Yes. Should Biden be spared the same attacks Trump had to endure? Hell no!

Who would believe twenty years ago that this is not going to be a stupid joke? This world is going to raise from the ashes or die with help of the left brave women

Clearly true.

Suddenly you have new arguments. Maybe just quote the actual argument next time, because “not 100% effective" and "only 40% effective" are not the same. Not even close. Perfectly reasonable? Based on what? It's been two years, dude. The layered strategy failed, even as there goalposts kept moving. And amazingly, what we know about COVID isn't dramatically different from May of 2020. You want to have the conversation, then have it. I posted a ton of unanswered questions regarding the duration and triggers for mandates, but instead of engaging you continue to reply with the supposed-absurd claims of others. So it seems like the only conversation you want to have is the same one everyone is obsessed with: your side is crazier than my side.