The WOKE Thread (Merged from WTF?)

[Prozac]

Or.....you go with the simple answer: Media outlets of all stripes air the stories that draw more viewers, and there is a LOT of money in that.  https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/355372/cable-tv-news-networks-grow-31-in-prime-time-ad-r.html

[GrndPndr]

49 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Or.....you go with the simple answer: Media outlets of all stripes air the stories that draw more viewers, and there is a LOT of money in that.  https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/355372/cable-tv-news-networks-grow-31-in-prime-time-ad-r.html

Never a truer phrase was spoken.  Yes, it's obvious that the media loves the left, but without viewers/readers/visitors - the media dies, and they won't ever let that happen.  When reading a piece of "news," look for the drama, that's where you'll find the key.

[Lord Ratner]

5 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:

Yeah, ultimately this is a class war being disguised as a reaction to racism.  The use of race as a canard to to distract these useful idiots as the corporates/globalists/etc... obliterate the working and middle classes with open borders and abusive work visa schemes while simultaneously allowing unlimited amounts of cheap goods into our country made by slave labor in China is one of our main ailments.  

If we had throughout our government people who realized internet monopolies, bad trade deals and massive conglomerates using media arms, lobbying firms and disinformation factories were actually the ones killing our country and crafted economic policies to combat those negative trends, those disaffected idiots would have two nickels to rub together, a decent job and a material reason to keep their shit straight, but they don't and we don't have many leaders who actually like the country they purport to represent and here we are.

Shack

[Lord Ratner]

4 hours ago, torqued said:

Here are some of the questions I've had lately:

Who benefits from agitating the class war you're referring to?

Why does the corporate media push a narrative that seems to favor socialism? Who owns corporate media/social media? Do they not benefit from free Capitalism?

Why don't they care about higher debts and higher taxes? (How much in financial derivatives (in terms of US Dollars) exists in the world compared to actual assets?)

Where does economic stimulus come from? Are central banks government? Who owns the central banks? Who owns the debt?

Who does the climate change, race/gender/income "equality" agendas help the most?

If you follow the logical path to answer these questions relying on facts while taking a skeptical approach along the way, you still arrive at what amounts to a "conspiracy theory" that's difficult to explain to anyone who hasn't yet educated themselves about the details of the global economic framework.

I hesitate to post this only because the video thumbnail seems like a crazy conspiracy theory headline, but trust me.... there's a lot of answers to the above questions... it's fucking educational.

Uploaded yesterday: (Skip to 25:30 for the relevant discussion if you're not interested in the economics)

 

There is a group of people, mostly very smart, who believe through the most altruistic intentions that the world we have could be much, much, much better for everyone if everyone simply listened to them. 

 

And they're right. If everyone just agreed to the system they propose we would all, on average, be much better off. Problem is, it's that universal compliance bit that is the impossible prerequisite to Utopia.

 

There's nothing new about it. Ask yourself why the leaders of BLM would proudly describe themselves as trained Marxists. What does Marxism entail? And how have previous Marxists accomplished their revolutions?

[Sim]

Imagine being this much woke!  #liberals 

[brabus]

Nothing surprising about that...

[slackline]

Imagine being this much woke!  #liberals 

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toilet-licking-trump-protest/

You should definitely believe everything you see on the internet... Well done, but you keep believing everything that makes you feel good.


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[Guardian]

Liberal Motto!

[GrndPndr]

6 hours ago, slackline said:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toilet-licking-trump-protest/

You should definitely believe everything you see on the internet... Well done, but you keep believing everything that makes you feel good.


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The best part of something like this - is that some folks out there may well have started doing this.  Maybe that's just me imagining the misguided, idealistic youth (under 30) doing crazy sh*t like this, because they saw a pic of it somewhere.

[pawnman]

20 hours ago, slackline said:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toilet-licking-trump-protest/

You should definitely believe everything you see on the internet... Well done, but you keep believing everything that makes you feel good.


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Maybe 4Chan just wanted it to take off...like the OK symbol and milk being synonymous with white supremacy.

Edited October 12, 2020 by pawnman

[dream big]

On 10/11/2020 at 9:57 AM, slackline said:

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/toilet-licking-trump-protest/

You should definitely believe everything you see on the internet... Well done, but you keep believing everything that makes you feel good.


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I’m not sure how it is possible to spin imbeciles licking toilets... but okay!

[brickhistory]

[slackline]

Hilarious! Comedians are great, and anyone wanting to"cancel" needs to watch Seinfeld's comedians in cars show#


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[slackline]

I’m not sure how it is possible to spin imbeciles licking toilets... but okay!

Go read the Snopes article. It's fake, but if you got it from your Reddit thread about #liberalidiots, then go right ahead and take it as gospel truth. Please tell me you're not an officer with that level of gullibility.


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[lloyd christmas]

26 minutes ago, slackline said:

Please tell me you're not an officer with that level of gullibility.

This is the shit that needs to stop.  

[slackline]

This is the shit that needs to stop.  

Please tell me why? You want officers that believe everything they see simply because it supports their narrative? I genuinely do not. If he's being sarcastic, it didn't shine through.


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[M2]

1 hour ago, brickhistory said:

 

Why is Billy Corgan hosting SNL?!?

 

[brickhistory]

10 minutes ago, M2 said:

Why is Billy Corgan hosting SNL?!?

 

[slackline]

Just heard another fact about the police shooting in Philly. I gotta say I feel bad for the cops because dude was approaching them with a knife. Rock and a hard place. I still struggle to believe that shooting the guy was the only way to deal with the situation, but some of you “thin blue line” folks will say it was a legal kill...

Point I wanted to make was that the cops are not equipped to deal with these situations. Guy’s family called for an ambulance because he has mental health problems. Police showed up and started demanding things and escalated/aggravated the situation. Why did the cops show up? Sincere question, do 911 operators hold any responsibility in this? Are they also sending police? Or do cops just hear it and show up? From what I can tell, dude did not have a knife until cops showed up and made things worse.

Again, I feel for the cops here. Crappy situation...


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[Lord Ratner]

I side with the cops, of course, as they are playing by the rules.

 

But the rules are stupid. Two cops should be able to deal with a guy with a knife, unless it's a ninja. They might get hurt, but that's the job. Hell, this is actually a case where "shoot him in the leg" is a realistic COA. Or taze him. Or pepper spray. Or use a bolas. If he starts stabbing someone, then yeah, kill him.

 

Michael Brown was a good shoot. And when it's an evenly matched fight, the cops should use their guns to make it uneven. But every time I see multiple cops drawing on one guy without a gun, it just seems wrong. Remember that kid in the hotel with nothing but basketball shorts and a T-shirt? Like six cops obliterated him because he was "reaching" for something. Absurd. When did the cops become such pussies? They aren't, of course, but the rules are sure making it look that way.

 

The old men who got knocked over during the protests were disgusting too. Really couldn't think of a way to handle that? Throw him over your shoulder, drag him to the truck, but just knock him on his ass? Police departments with old MRAPs. Camouflage. It's just wrong.

 

American policing does. not. have a racism problem. But it does have a brutality problem. Conservatives need to acknowledge that. But that's not going to happen while liberals misrepresent every infraction as racist. And so the dance continues.

[Sim]

18 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

But the rules are stupid. Two cops should be able to deal with a guy with a knife, unless it's a ninja.

 

[slackline]

Like clockwork, Sim with the propaganda...

Addition: No one is saying knives aren’t dangerous, and that they cannot be used to kill a police officer, but good job, way to add constructive words to the conversation...

Also, just saying, a black dude in your video would have been shot much earlier than this white guy... Maybe he is a black guy, but it is grainy so I can’t tell.

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[FLEA]

26 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

I side with the cops, of course, as they are playing by the rules.

 

But the rules are stupid. Two cops should be able to deal with a guy with a knife, unless it's a ninja. They might get hurt, but that's the job. Hell, this is actually a case where "shoot him in the leg" is a realistic COA. Or taze him. Or pepper spray. Or use a bolas. If he starts stabbing someone, then yeah, kill him.

 

Michael Brown was a good shoot. And when it's an evenly matched fight, the cops should use their guns to make it uneven. But every time I see multiple cops drawing on one guy without a gun, it just seems wrong. Remember that kid in the hotel with nothing but basketball shorts and a T-shirt? Like six cops obliterated him because he was "reaching" for something. Absurd. When did the cops become such pussies? They aren't, of course, but the rules are sure making it look that way.

 

The old men who got knocked over during the protests were disgusting too. Really couldn't think of a way to handle that? Throw him over your shoulder, drag him to the truck, but just knock him on his ass? Police departments with old MRAPs. Camouflage. It's just wrong.

 

American policing does. not. have a racism problem. But it does have a brutality problem. Conservatives need to acknowledge that. But that's not going to happen while liberals misrepresent every infraction as racist. And so the dance continues.

 

Uh..... first off.... a knife is probably going to kill you not hurt you. Knife wounds are generally more lethal than gun shot wounds. Second, no.... getting hurt is not part of the job. I cant understand how anyone with any sense of morality can believe its somebodies job to get hurt. That's like people saying if you in the military your job is to die for your country. Uh, no its not. 

 

 

Here is why cops shoot people with knives. This is based off actual research performed by the FBI. The TTPs are pretty advanced. (not all covered in this video) Usually one officer is paired with a lethal and another officer with a non-lethal. (taser, pepper ball, etc...)  

 

 

Edit: I'm just going to add too, I've been doing MMA for 15 years and if someone came at me with a knife, I'm sure as fuck running. Ive been stabbed once in high school, and it sucked balls. 

Edited October 28, 2020 by FLEA

[slackline]

 
Uh..... first off.... a knife is probably going to kill you not hurt you. Knife wounds are generally more lethal than gun shot wounds. Second, no.... getting hurt is not part of the job. I cant understand how anyone with any sense of morality can believe its somebodies job to get hurt. That's like people saying if you in the military your job is to die for your country. Uh, no its not. 
 
 
Here is why cops shoot people with knives. This is based off actual research performed by the FBI. The TTPs are pretty advanced. (not all covered in this video) Usually one officer is paired with a lethal and another officer with a non-lethal. (taser, pepper ball, etc...)  
 
 
Edit: I'm just going to add too, I've been doing MMA for 15 years and if someone came at me with a knife, I'm sure as running. Ive been stabbed once in high school, and it sucked balls. 

Agree mostly, but the risk most definitely is part of the job. If your own life is 100% your focus, I think “serving and protecting” is the wrong job for you. Should be very high on the list of priorities, but you do know what you are potentially signing up for. Maybe just arguing semantics here...


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[FLEA]

6 minutes ago, slackline said:

Agree mostly, but the risk most definitely is part of the job. If your own life is 100% your focus, I think “serving and protecting” is the wrong job for you. Should be very high on the list of priorities, but you do know what you are potentially signing up for. Maybe just arguing semantics here...


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Sure there is risk, and thats acknowledged. But when we practice ORM we never say "deliberately ignore risk because its part of the job." We mitigate using planning and TTP's. 

In general, police are exposed to far more risk than people in the military and have only a fraction of the social benefit should they entail injury. Its difficult for us as a society to ask them to accept more risk. Who is willing to front the lifetime disability and early pensions for all of these officers we are asking to accept injury? Or is it, "sorry, just part of the job dude, enjoy never having use of your left hand again. Good luck finding work outside of policing."