Clark Griswold Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 hours ago, Lawman said: That doesn’t help him. The number of Army pilots (particularly conventional) that have experience and understanding of denied area ops is abysmal after 2 decades of coin. Helicopters aren’t limited because of the nature of their engineering, they’ll be limited because of the lack of fused planning or understanding and synchronization of enablers evident by the war fighter we just did. The people who don’t know what they are doing and never received training in how to do it are now leaders and they are as a population resistant to being told anything by anyone outside their experience model. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Yeah but you can say that about every platform in a contested environment. Here's another attempt to post the link without trying to spam BO . net https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqkI51xEDio The critique is now I think due to the proliferation of really good small GBAD systems (not just MANPADs) but the adaptation of new / novel technologies like FPV drone attacks on lower, slower moving platforms This attack was unsuccessful but you can see where this is gonna go https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/06/a-ukrainian-racing-drone-nearly-kamikazed-a-russian-attack-helicopter/?sh=4893c4591af9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Yeah but you can say that about every platform in a contested environment. Here's another attempt to post the link without trying to spam BO . net The critique is now I think due to the proliferation of really good small GBAD systems (not just MANPADs) but the adaptation of new / novel technologies like FPV drone attacks on lower, slower moving platforms This attack was unsuccessful but you can see where this is gonna go https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/06/a-ukrainian-racing-drone-nearly-kamikazed-a-russian-attack-helicopter/?sh=4893c4591af9Let’s just go with this video is full of bad Wikipedia level research and these guys are making click bait not informed information.For reference, anytime somebody tells you about Apaches with Stingers or doing Barrel Rolls, just know nothing they are talking about came from first hand research. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 11 minutes ago, Lawman said: Let’s just go with this video is full of bad Wikipedia level research and these guys are making click bait not informed information. For reference, anytime somebody tells you about Apaches with Stingers or doing Barrel Rolls, just know nothing they are talking about came from first hand research. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Let me educate you with one of my favorite documentaries so you don’t keep embarrassing yourself. 1 8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawman Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Let me educate you with one of my favorite documentaries so you don’t keep embarrassing yourself. No lie, one of my IPs in primary was in that movie.Decades on and apparently he wasn’t allowed to introduce himself to his students without one of the other Instructors bringing it up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Griswold Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Let’s just go with this video is full of bad Wikipedia level research and these guys are making click bait not informed information.Sent from my iPad using TapatalkFair enough, it was the question to get a discussion going after seeing Russian helicopters have some losses and what could be gleaned from thatSent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 (edited) On 12/1/2023 at 7:32 AM, Lawman said: No lie, one of my IPs in primary was in that movie. Decades on and apparently he wasn’t allowed to introduce himself to his students without one of the other Instructors bringing it up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Was it Nicolas Cage? Edited December 6, 2023 by Biff_T Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 1 hour ago, Biff_T said: Was it Nicolas Cage? Did he like strawberry gum? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 Looks like that Ukrainian war isn’t going so well… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, BashiChuni said: Looks like that Ukrainian war isn’t going so well… Weren't you saying this 2 years ago? 🙂 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 12 hours ago, BashiChuni said: Unbelieveable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 1 hour ago, FourFans said: Unbelieveable It's always our fault somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 This is a continuation of our disastrous foreign policy of intervening in regional conflicts where we do not belong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfargin Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 douchebags 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tac airlifter Posted December 7, 2023 Share Posted December 7, 2023 Secretary Austin is a disgrace. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperMan Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 @BashiChuni, I want Ukraine to win, but that is absolutely absurd statement by Yellen. Up is down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bfargin Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 I think pretty much everyone but Russia wants them to win. But we've done enough and don't have a pot to piss in right now anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HeloDude Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Progressives politicians: We need to give Ukraine tens of billions of dollars (money that we don’t have on top of the other tens of billions we have already given them), and if we don’t, Ukraine will fall to Russia and the US will have the blame. Oh and additionally we many have to send our own troops to fight in eastern Europe. Non-progressive politicians: Ok, well, as long as we can also add funding/make significant changes to our own border security and tighten illegal immigration rules/laws, then we’ll fund that and money for Ukraine. Progressive politicians: No 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 Politicians are such pieces of shit. The best fix is remove 100% of them, enact term limits, then start over. Everyone does 8 max and done. One can dream… 2 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Random Guy Posted December 8, 2023 Share Posted December 8, 2023 5 hours ago, HeloDude said: money that we don’t have on top of the other tens of billions we have already given them... Most transfers were 'in kind'. But how can a ledger 'not have money'? Did they run out of numbers or something? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 "for the good of the world" please. so tired of the globalists. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 3 hours ago, BashiChuni said: "for the good of the world" please. so tired of the globalists. Apparently you can't see through the rhetoric. Being globally aware and engaging the power we (USA) still have is simply responsible for our own well being, forget the rest of the world. We have options now that we won't have later. You can choose to stick your head in the sand now, but that only leaves tomorrow you two options: A: Try to become globally aware and engaged later with options, power, and leverage you might not have any more. B: Learn Chinese. That's not an opinion. That's fact proven by history time and time again. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 C. it's not our fight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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