arg Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Chang said you can easily perform you RPA duties in blues. 1 5
Standby Posted January 15 Posted January 15 If all USAF pilots are being forced to wear blues every day, might as well go to the 89th and get a free jacket too. 1
Lawman Posted January 15 Posted January 15 Chang said you can easily perform you RPA duties in blues.I mean in fairness, the fact they wear flight suits is a little stupid. Like when is the last time a GCS Caught fire? Just wear the utility uniform and call it good. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk 3
disgruntledemployee Posted January 16 Posted January 16 The Russians are behind this, because, well, that's what they do. So any CC or Gen that enacts this is working for the enemy. 1
Boomer6 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) Item number 69 on the list of reasons I tell the youngins to go guard at all costs. Edited January 16 by Boomer6
StoleIt Posted January 16 Posted January 16 4 hours ago, Standby said: If all USAF pilots are being forced to wear blues every day, might as well go to the 89th and get a free jacket too. Not worth it. But, OCONUS we wore self procured suits. So they could be as nice or shitty as you wanted to invest for,
Ant-man Posted January 16 Posted January 16 Our “near-peer” adversaries are rapidly becoming peer. We’re at least a decade behind where we should be in terms of modernization. We’re hemorrhaging our most valuable human capital at a pace that almost seems deliberate. We have a host of young airmen that have no connection to the concept of service and treat the military like a jobs program for unemployed TikTokers…but the HIGHEST RANKING dude in the Air Force is addressing the branch regarding uniform standards!? Bros at WEPTAC don’t need to be worrying about whether they remembered to bring a nametag without a call sign. Funny that Norty Schwartz was mentioned because they were both herbivores…surely a coincidence. But seriously, the state of our fleet and quality of training for operators should keep people up at night, and it’s not helping that we spend an inordinate amount of time and energy focused on managing programs born of the post-9/11 bureaucratic bloat or chasing DEI and innovation initiatives. Take a scroll through TMT to see what I mean. We’ve lost sight of what it would take to decisively win a war against an actual adversary. There isn’t a base in the AF where I could find ten people who aren’t ops or mx and have five of them tell me what the wing’s mission is. I don’t know what the fix is but I’m damn sure it’s not another rewrite of 36-2903… 3 1
BashiChuni Posted January 16 Posted January 16 7 hours ago, Standby said: If all USAF pilots are being forced to wear blues every day, might as well go to the 89th and get a free jacket too. NERD
ClearedHot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 14 hours ago, Lawman said: I mean in fairness, the fact they wear flight suits is a little stupid. Like when is the last time a GCS Caught fire? Just wear the utility uniform and call it good. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk Send it forward as a Form 1000, think of all the money we would save on flight suits, boots and leather jackets. They best part if the RPA pilots are O's so they will have to pay for their own blues...Winning!
dream big Posted January 16 Posted January 16 9 hours ago, Ant-man said: Funny that Norty Schwartz was mentioned because they were both herbivores…surely a coincidence. Valid, Norty and Alvin are two CSAFs pushing this shit that both happen to be herbivores (which makes most of us AMC guys nauseous rest assured); but in fairness Wilsbach as current COMACC is not and he’s one of the most ardent perpetuators of this standards initiative; whilst former AMC commander said quote “I’m not doing that shit, I’m focused on keeping future AMC crews alive in the Pacific.” 1 2
Day Man Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 14 hours ago, Ant-man said: Funny that Norty Schwartz was mentioned because they were both herbivores…surely a coincidence. the focus on lethality under welsh, goldfein, and brown is noted Edited January 16 by Day Man 4 1
HuggyU2 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Ant-man said: ... they were both herbivores… Ironic that you used the term "herbivore". When McPeak was CINC PACAF, he was notorious for ordering bean salads for the entire staff when they were doing "working lunches". Hard to believe he is 89. I guess the diet worked ok for him. 🤷♂️ 1
ClearedHot Posted January 16 Posted January 16 11 hours ago, Ant-man said: but the HIGHEST RANKING dude in the Air Force is addressing the branch regarding uniform standards!? Bros at WEPTAC don’t need to be worrying about whether they remembered to bring a nametag without a call sign. Point of order, in recent times the first clown to recycle the open ranks inspection, nitpicking of uniforms and banning of items that made life easier for folks on the flightline was the ACC Commander Wilsbach, an Eagle Pilot to the core. 11 hours ago, Ant-man said: Funny that Norty Schwartz was mentioned because they were both herbivores…surely a coincidence. Again, point of order, the first clown to start the airlinepilot looking uniform changes, V-neck t-shirts and gigline gazing was McNutgobbler when he was CSAF. Again another scrotum hugging, Eagle driving, fighter guy. 1 5 1
SocialD Posted January 16 Posted January 16 (edited) 42 minutes ago, ClearedHot said: Point of order, in recent times the first clown to recycle the open ranks inspection, nitpicking of uniforms and banning of items that made life easier for folks on the flightline was the ACC Commander Wilsbach, an Eagle Pilot to the core. Again, point of order, the first clown to start the airlinepilot looking uniform changes, V-neck t-shirts and gigline gazing was McNutgobbler when he was CSAF. Again another scrotum hugging, Eagle driving, fighter guy. No surprise there... Edited January 16 by SocialD 1
Boomer6 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 These guys are standard AF generals. I've yet to meet a single general in the AF that the bros actually claim as part of their community. Usually said general takes command and the bros are like, "he flew X back in the day so hopefully he'll be good." Fast-forward to his first speech/memo/CC call...the bros: "were fucked.." 1
SurelySerious Posted January 16 Posted January 16 These guys are standard AF generals. I've yet to meet a single general in the AF that the bros actually claim as part of their community. Usually said general takes command and the bros are like, "he flew X back in the day so hopefully he'll be good." Fast-forward to his first speech/memo/CC call...the bros: "were ed.."Recency bias for sure, but Rich Clark is the only one I immediately recall that made it past the O-6/O-7 phase and felt like a genuine person. 3
HuggyU2 Posted January 16 Posted January 16 2 hours ago, Boomer6 said: These guys are standard AF generals. I've yet to meet a single general in the AF that the bros actually claim as part of their community. Then you never met Gen Kevin Chilton. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_P._Chilton 3
Day Man Posted January 16 Posted January 16 1 hour ago, SurelySerious said: Recency bias for sure, but Rich Clark is the only one I immediately recall that made it past the O-6/O-7 phase and felt like a genuine person. BG Palenske seems pretty well-liked from what I glean on social media 2
CaptainMorgan Posted January 17 Posted January 17 Then you never met Gen Kevin Chilton. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_P._ChiltonFrom his Wikipedia page, it looks like he didn’t do AWC until he was a 1-star. Fvckin awesome!Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
tac airlifter Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/16/2025 at 2:00 PM, Day Man said: BG Palenske seems pretty well-liked from what I glean on social media Palenske is the real thing, if anything he's better than his social media "fun boss" persona; he actually likes/enables mission hackers and killers. He is a real combat leader. But he's been a 1 star for a long time. I'd be surprised if he continues upwards. 1
Springer Posted January 18 Posted January 18 On 1/16/2025 at 12:57 PM, HuggyU2 said: Then you never met Gen Kevin Chilton. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_P._Chilton Not bad for an ex brother Recce puke. 1
DirkDiggler Posted January 18 Posted January 18 8 hours ago, tac airlifter said: Palenske is the real thing, if anything he's better than his social media "fun boss" persona; he actually likes/enables mission hackers and killers. He is a real combat leader. But he's been a 1 star for a long time. I'd be surprised if he continues upwards. I think I saw on LinkedIn a couple weeks back that he was taking a job at HTeaO so I think he may be retiring. Not 100% sure though.
contraildash Posted January 18 Posted January 18 Quote Palenske is the real thing, if anything he's better than his social media "fun boss" persona; he actually likes/enables mission hackers and killers. He is a real combat leader. But he's been a star for a long time. I'd be surprised if he continues upwards. Dude is certified legit. Talk to the Osprey boys about his motivational speeches for deployments. The missing finger knife hands are missed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro
tac airlifter Posted January 19 Posted January 19 3 hours ago, contraildash said: Dude is certified legit. Talk to the Osprey boys about his motivational speeches for deployments. The missing finger knife hands are missed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro lol, the universe doesn’t want you quoting me!
LookieRookie Posted January 19 Posted January 19 17 hours ago, contraildash said: Dude is certified legit. Talk to the Osprey boys about his motivational speeches for deployments. The missing finger knife hands are missed. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro What in the TikTok gen z did you do? 2
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