9 hours ago, brabus said:

I don’t think losing the one engine (at least in an airbus) is a huge deal, not even hard to deal with. But, all bets are off when it falls off, likely resulting in ruptured hyd lines and fuel cells. Then throw in the alleged loss of the #3 at 500k GW. Screwed…nobody can recover from that.

The tail engine is #2.

2 hours ago, Hacker said:

The tail engine is #2.

I had a 50/50 shot…put it all on black!

3 hours ago, Hacker said:

The tail engine is #2.

Engines are numbered left to right... for those unaware like I was at one point. 
 

Brabus... In the Viper or F-35, that would be "#1". 

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At the recommendation of Boeing, both UPS AND Purple have grounded their MD-11's.

C-5 and AF 1 both use a version of the CF-6. Of course how they attach to the airframe is where I see this investigation headed. Props and engine mounts keep maintainers/engineers up at night for a reason.

15 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Brabus... In the Viper or F-35, that would be "#1". 

AKA, "the" engine.  Having only one really simplifies which one you're talking about.

3 hours ago, Smokin said:

AKA, "the" engine.  Having only one really simplifies which one you're talking about.

Yep, only one engine to worry about vs three or four

3 hours ago, arg said:

Yep, only one engine to worry about vs three or four

Minus the fact the Viper has two different engine manufacturers and different models between manufacturers.

On 11/8/2025 at 10:38 AM, fire4effect said:

C-5 and AF 1 both use a version of the CF-6. Of course how they attach to the airframe is where I see this investigation headed. Props and engine mounts keep maintainers/engineers up at night for a reason.

And the Airbus A300/A310, A330, and Boeing 767.

Oh, and in a ton of military marine applications (Spruance, Kidd, Oliver Hazard Perry, Ticonderoga). The CF6 class of engine is all over the place.

On 11/9/2025 at 11:36 AM, Sua Sponte said:

Minus the fact the Viper has two different engine manufacturers and different models between manufacturers.

Try five engines, with three different ones on the same jet. 
 

Real good friend flew this until RR retired it 2-3 months ago. 

 

 

I wonder about the throttle spread to get them all making the same power. Otherwise it wouldn't want to fly straight.

14 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Try five engines, with three different ones on the same jet. 
 

 

Try six, one country has its own.

Once again, Hoover nails it (STS)! 
 

 

Glad to see my airline/union assisting UPS/IPA in their time of mourning and assist bringing Captain Diamond home to rest.

NTSB Preliminary Report is out.NTSB Prelim report

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literally during rotation...terrible.😞

Completely unsalvageable. Now the remaining question is if inspections were complied with correctly, and if so, then timelines need to be adjusted. If not, well then some heads should roll substantially.

1 hour ago, Day Man said:

literally during rotation...terrible.😞

Horrific, nothing they could do.