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Force Multiplier. Had this discussion years ago with a former military member who was a cop and that's what he called it. Few wanting to fund the cost was and is the issue. Avoid a few multi-million-dollar payouts and I say it's paid for itself. Of course, sophisticated/expensive unmanned systems are another though potentially reasonable discussion. When word gets out you can't outrun it you also have a potential deterrent effect to not run in the first place.

Best way to hold federal agents accountable is by Congress cutting their budget. The courts just aren't effective on this and frankly will never themselves be accountable to the people. Stop giving them a paycheck will get their attention, I'm sure. Effects Based Targeting

Unfortunately, with qualified immunity that's next to impossible. Especially with Federal officers. Hell, I bet they often times come from out of state and good luck even finding them with DOJ running interference. Fact is if you do happen get "lucky" and take one of them out you get life at a minimum and you're guilty until proven innocent. No matter how bad the cops screw up it's your fault. This happened with local cops in Wisconsin, and I suspect this guy happened to live in a bad neighborhood and had a small amount of MJ and fired at the door when they were breaking the door down. Was this guy citizen of the year? No. Did they yell police? Probably. Did he hear that in the chaos? Maybe. Do bad guys ever yell police? Yes. I wouldn't be surprised once a cop was killed, they emptied out an evidence locker and piled it in his house to make the raid justifiable. No knock raids should be used in in ONLY very limited situations. Just too many things can go wrong. Jordan Fricke sentenced to life in prison for shooting and killing MPD Officer Matthew Rittner (cbs58.com)

Absolutely there were a dozen better ways this could have been handled. They had him under surveillance including with a GPS tracker on his car so they had no problem doing a traffic stop or his office. This is a decent report that mentions how the agents violated ATF policy and didn't wear body cameras AND put tape over his ring doorbell camera. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwj5hPClt-eFAxVW38kDHckADk0QwqsBegQICBAG&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dfu4ifmzq7SI&usg=AOvVaw23t20RA6rsQ0vYD0r_A22m&opi=89978449

Funny as I get older, I've decided my best award was coming home with everything still attached. I tell people to read between the lines in a lot of higher awards citations. You can usually tell that at least one and sometimes more individuals really screwed up to put any person in a position to earn it in the first place. Do your job right and you get out without anyone knowing who you are and I'm perfectly ok with that. Certainly, you don't get a screenplay written about you.

Better yet consider putting what you have in a trust. My .69

This. I paid a ton in taxes this year, so I guess I'm doing my part. LOL Ahh the hypocrisy. Taylor Swift and her private jet. HAD to be there to watch her boyfriend throw his tantrum in person instead of watching it on TV. What would have happened if any of us had done that to our boss? Not to mention all the electricity used for her Era's tour. Generated most if not all by fossil fuels. I wonder how many in the Go Green crowd would give up everything in their life that contains plastic (think cellphone). A big problem as I see it is the lack of true scientific literacy in Congress. Laws of thermodynamics/physics don't care what is written in a law.

Very distant relative. I remember hearing the story a long time ago as a kid. Randomly a couple days ago I called and thought to get clarity from another family member and found this. After my own service it takes on a whole new meaning. We had a great discussion how in 1949 when 12 O'clock High came out no one wanted to see or discuss the movie because the feelings were still so raw in the family. Only child. Yesterday I noticed today would have been his 100th birthday. Lt. Dunn and Crew Marshall Clyde Dunn was born on April 20, 1924, in Wichita County, Texas. He was the son of Clyde Stanley Dunn and Merle Sheldon Dunn. He was a graduate of the Electra High School and was a member of the band. He was attending Texas A & M when he enlisted in the Army Air Force. Marshall entered the service in February 1943 and had been overseas in October 1944. He served in the 850th Bomber Squadron, 490th Bomber Group, Heavy, as a First Lieutenant and Pilot on the B-17G #43-38699 during World War II. He was Killed in Action on February 6, 1945, when his airplane was involved in a mid-air collision with B-17G #43-38167 over France. That day, his crew took off from airfield station 134 in Eye, England, for a strategic mission to Chemnitz, Germany. Upon reaching 17,000 feet, his plane collided with B-17G #43-38167 piloted by Lt Schoenfield and crashed near Mittersheim. This resulted in the death of seven members of his crew; 3 survived and recovered. Sgt Johnston, who jumped around 3000 feet, indicated that the survivors were transferred to Nancy, then to Vittel, returned to Nancy, then Paris by rail, and finally returned to the UK in C-47 on February 11, 1945. 1Lt Dunn is now buried in the Fort Sam Houston National Cemetery, San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas, USA. Airmen who perished on B-17G #43-38699: Dunn, Marshall C ~ 1st Lt, Pilot Philley, Jack O ~ 2nd Lt, Co-Pilot Baland, Helmer O ~ 2nd Lt, Navigator Horton, Fred H ~ S/Sgt, Ball Turret Gunner Mayhew, Donald R ~ S/Sgt, Radio Operator, NY McKinney, Clarence H ~ T/Sgt, Mechanic Mulvihill, Edward J ~ S/Sgt, Bombardier The survivors were SSgt Dean R. Smith, SSgt George A. Naifeh, and SSgt Osvil F. Johnston.

This demographic does seem to try harder to please. So I've been told.

I guess we can agree to disagree on this but one of the worse things is to suddenly find out a military prediction is wrong because by then it's usually too late. As an example, I admit Hamas hitting Israel like they did was something I would have never seen coming in a million years. I'm still dumfounded Israel could get caught that flat footed.

I would counter that was the thought in the 1930s with Germany. Hitler just wanted a little more territory and he would be good. I have little doubt had Putin been in power in the 1930s-40s he would have been just as bad. What line is too far? I'm still as pissed as many over the Charlie Foxtrot that was/is Afghanistan but at least Ukraine is willing to fight.

Ukraine sees allies protect Israel from Iran attack and asks: What about us? (nbcnews.com) Actually makes a great point.

Of course, to be fair there was a time where some thought Blackhawks looked like Hinds. Deadly serious business and we can't forget the hard lessons.

Leave to the jokers in the crowd to decide the significance of of the 2 and 3 inch dimensions. 😁

Couldn't resist. 😎

I just finished watching Master's of the Air. Well done series imho . I look at each and every one of them who brought down an enemy plane with a 50 cal as an ace whether in a P-51 or a ball turret.

Only counts if this is how it was done

Seems like a perfect chance to test Dark Eagle. This will arrive a lot faster than their drones.

You're certainly in good company on this board😎

Unfortunately the last time I needed assistance in this area I was CONUS. But I certainly like the concept 💡

Russians have been inflicting headaches for years with their Vodka

And broad power to NOT go after someone(s) and look the other way until it's politically expedient. I'm sure this has been done in New York by the rich and powerful in general and Trump in particular for years and now someone finally decides it's a problem. Bottom line why now and not 20 years ago?

Waaait a minute. You can't fool me with that song and dance again.😁You have to get up by the crack of noon to get ahead of me.

I'm still wondering how they're able to keep their logistics going to maintain their launch optempo. I can see if they've stockpiled a fair amount in the years no one was looking but sooner or later they're going to run out of missiles. Going forward if we catch you with contraband, you getting your A$$ sunk or blown up. No questions asked.

Did they ever give you a 2 pound sledge hammer and send you out to the motor pool to check for thin spots in the armor? 🙂