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Bummer.

You can see what looks like compressor stalls on the number 2 engine right at the beginning of the video. Number 1 exploded and FOD'd out the tail engine, which explains the lack of climb. 180k lbs of fuel. There was nothing the crew could do. So fucking sad. 

This is heart breaking for the bros here at Brown.  The MD crew force is packed with a great dudes.  

11 hours ago, nunya said:

No names yet?

I wouldn't expect them anytime soon.  ID and NOK notification have to occur, and it appears the aircraft crashed into occupied buildings.

One of the pilots was a Squadron Mate of mine but his name hasn’t officially been released yet. 
I was an FE on the DC-10 for about a year and I don’t know if the MD-11 was similar but I was never impressed with the aircraft especially the slat system. 
For an aircraft that was so dependent on leading edge slats there was a lack of backups to prevent them from retracting if you lost hydraulics!

Pictures have surfaced of the number one engine and nacelle cowl laying off the side of the runway and I have heard from the grapevine that another engine was damaged as well. 

  • M2 changed the title to UPS MD-11 Crash in SDF
3 hours ago, HeyEng said:

One of the pilots was a Squadron Mate of mine but his name hasn’t officially been released yet. 
I was an FE on the DC-10 for about a year and I don’t know if the MD-11 was similar but I was never impressed with the aircraft especially the slat system. 
For an aircraft that was so dependent on leading edge slats there was a lack of backups to prevent them from retracting if you lost hydraulics!

Pictures have surfaced of the number one engine and nacelle cowl laying off the side of the runway and I have heard from the grapevine that another engine was damaged as well. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Airlines_Flight_232

https://www.ntsb.gov/investigations/Pages/DCA89MA063.aspx

 

A friend in the cargo world and knows a guy that flew that jet a week ago heard the flight was delayed 2 hrs for engine mx.

A buddy who is a long time captain at Delta posted today basically saying through no fault of your own sometimes your luck just runs out.  I know they will find the cause and I seriously doubt there was thing anyone of these guys could have done. 

Same for the people on the ground including a baby from reporting.

Rest in peace.

Yes…”Fate is the Hunter” by Ernie Gann

13 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

A buddy who is a long time captain at Delta posted today basically saying through no fault of your own sometimes your luck just runs out.  I know they will find the cause and I seriously doubt there was thing anyone of these guys could have done. 

Same for the people on the ground including a baby form reporting.

Rest in peace.

I will be completely stunned if anything in the report suggests an alternative outcome. It's hard enough to deal with an engine failure during takeoff, but when the engine completely explodes, to expect someone to analyze that in seconds is already a heavy lift. It's what we're trained to do, but that doesn't mean it's easy.

 

But to then have to analyze a second engine starting to fail? No way. And all for what? Based on where the plane was on the runway in the videos we've seen, there was no stopping, and there was no going. At that point you're just arguing over where to put the fireball.

 

I sincerely hope for the sake of the maintainers who were working on that engine over the past couple months that they too are the victims of Fate, and not something that's going to make them feel like murderers for the rest of their lives.

I don’t think losing the one engine (at least in an airbus) is a huge deal, not even hard to deal with. But, all bets are off when it falls off, likely resulting in ruptured hyd lines and fuel cells. Then throw in the alleged loss of the #3 at 500k GW. Screwed…nobody can recover from that.

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