Commanders are dropping like flies this year

[Lord Ratner]

6 minutes ago, Boomer6 said:

Biff I've gotta ask, were you that squadron member?

No, but he did call dibs.

[McJay Pilot]

6 minutes ago, Boomer6 said:

Biff I've gotta ask, were you that squadron member?

Biff? Nahh, he’s a Sexual Tyrannosaurus if you ask BQZip’s Mom though! 

[Biff_T]

2 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

Biff I've gotta ask, were you that squadron member?

No.  But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. 

[Biff_T]

2 hours ago, McJay Pilot said:

BQZip’s Mom

Dibs ...

Again

[disgruntledemployee]

11 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

You said who your barometer was and I said who mine was. Simple as that. Until we're in WWIII we'll never know if any Sec Def would have matched up to CoS Marshall.

Nice try though. Having political arguments with ppl butt hurt over who's in office so they come to the internet for "wins" isn't my idea of healthy living.

Nope, you indexed a solid American.  I say hell yes.  Said current staff is painfully no match for your standard, yet you don't voice that.  Why?  Shouldn't we have good, upstanding Americans lead this nation?  I don't get it.  Honest question, what is so wrong with that?

You're still in the painted corner.

Edited October 6 by disgruntledemployee

[Boomer6]

As I said, Marshall would have had an in-person meeting, just as Hegseth did. By all means though, continue to argue about points I didn't make...as is tradition.

[disgruntledemployee]

20 hours ago, Boomer6 said:

As I said, Marshall would have had an in-person meeting, just as Hegseth did. By all means though, continue to argue about points I didn't make...as is tradition.

You're arguing about what dead guy would do, and I'm saying said dead guy should be a model of leadership.  You can never prove your point, but I can continue to compare a historical figure to a TV talking head.  If you think I'm displeased only with him holding a meeting, you haven't been paying attention.  Pete is not a leader and I don't see him growing into one.

[Vito]

 Disgruntledemployee,

  Perhaps if you view Trump as a non-politician, it may help you warm up to him. He isn’t a politician, he’s not a smooth talker, he’s blunt, says what’s on his mind and often gets in a lot of trouble for it. But he’s a damned effective leader, rough around the edges for sure, but he gets things done! I’m sure. He’s also beholden to no man, doesn’t need money, and loves America. I can think of a lot worse people. George Marshall was a very good soldier, leader, and undoubtably an effective politician to earn all those stars.

Edited October 7 by Vito

[Boomer6]

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

You're arguing about what dead guy would do, and I'm saying said dead guy should be a model of leadership. 

I'm not arguing what a dead guy would do. George Marshall, on several occasions went out of his way to have face to face discussions with his GOs abroad on important matters. If you want to get nit-noid and say he never got them all together, I'd say you're correct, hard to do in the middle of WWII.

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

You can never prove your point, but I can continue to compare a historical figure to a TV talking head. 

You can't prove he'd be worse than Marshall unless we enter another war similar to the Korean War (when Marshall was SECDEF).

2 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:

If you think I'm displeased only with him holding a meeting, you haven't been paying attention.  Pete is not a leader and I don't see him growing into one.

I guess it's a good thing for the SECDEF your opinion doesn't matter, just like mine doesn't.

[brickhistory]

Navy fires commanding officer of USS Wyoming

[skybert]

15 hours ago, brickhistory said:

Navy fires commanding officer of USS Wyoming

Dipping his sonar in the wrong port?

[brickhistory]

One ping only, Dmitri... (is all it takes).

[fire4effect]

Circular run of his torpedo

[disgruntledemployee]

On 10/6/2025 at 5:55 PM, Vito said:

 Disgruntledemployee,

  Perhaps if you view Trump as a non-politician, it may help you warm up to him. He isn’t a politician, he’s not a smooth talker, he’s blunt, says what’s on his mind and often gets in a lot of trouble for it. But he’s a damned effective leader, rough around the edges for sure, but he gets things done! I’m sure. He’s also beholden to no man, doesn’t need money, and loves America. I can think of a lot worse people. George Marshall was a very good soldier, leader, and undoubtably an effective politician to earn all those stars.

This was about Pete, but sure, Trump hired him.  You say you can think of worse people, I can think of better.  Don't we want good people running our country that we served?  I keep asking that question.

[brickhistory]

U.S. SOUTHCOM commander retires less than a year into tenure - UPI.com

[HeloDude]

On 10/10/2025 at 1:34 PM, disgruntledemployee said:

This was about Pete, but sure, Trump hired him.  You say you can think of worse people, I can think of better.  Don't we want good people running our country that we served?  I keep asking that question.

You didn’t make this big of a stink over the last 15+ years of other people who were serving in various high level positions, when there were better/stronger options available.

Dude, you hate Trump, and just about everyone he picks to serve on his team.  We get it.  You’re free to have your opinion, but your emotions on this issue have gotten quite old.

[brickhistory]

If they announce your replacement halfway through your normal tour, I think that qualifies as a firing.

Army's Number Two General Suddenly Replaced by Hegseth's Senior Military Aide – RedState

 

Bonus points for promoting a junior guy over a lot of senior guys.

[Day Man]

On 10/17/2025 at 7:37 AM, HeloDude said:

Dude, you hate Trump, and just about everyone he picks to serve on his team.  We get it.  You’re free to have your opinion, but your emotions on this issue have gotten quite old.

is only the side you support allowed to voice opinions here?

[HeloDude]

54 minutes ago, Day Man said:

is only the side you support allowed to voice opinions here?

Not at all…but if you’re anti what Trump does, just because it’s Trump, then you have TDS.  Likewise if you’re anti what the Dems do, but are ok with it when Trump does it, then you’re also being a hypocrite.  There’s a lot I don’t like about Trump and the GOP…and there are some things I like about what the Dems want (drug legislation and less involvement in foreign wars, though the later seems to be more in the distant past).

Ask me what my opinions are on an issue and I’ll happily provide an answer, and you’ll find that I’m fairly consistent.

[Day Man]

appreciate the rational discourse. 'TDS' isn't a thing (it's reused from BDS (Bush) and ODS (Obama)). it's a lazy hand-waving to ignore critiques.

I legitimately have issues finding anything good he has done without caveats (ie, a stronger border is good, but not at the expense of violating constitutional rights), and have a hard time understanding why anyone (let alone those that have taken the oath) can support anything he does. Tim Pool, who was literally a paid Russian mouthpiece, is now on the approved media list for the Pentagon...

 

[Lord Ratner]

1 hour ago, Day Man said:

 (ie, a stronger border is good, but not at the expense of violating constitutional rights)

 

So let me get this straight, 20 million illegal immigrants coming into the country is better than a small number of constitutional violations that are being resolved in the courts?

That's the math. I don't work in the Congress, so I don't get to pick a made-up third option where the border is closed and there are no violations of constitutional rights. I have a choice between a candidate that made everything worse, dramatically, and a candidate who single-handedly reduced illegal immigration to near zero, while fucking up in some edge cases.

 

That's pretty easy math to me. No one is denying the constitutional violations, though I suspect you would view far more of the deportation activity as a violation than I would. But even if I agreed with you on every single case, the alternative was a slow rolling catastrophe for my country and the country my children will inherit. Caveats are part of living in the real world. 

1 hour ago, Day Man said:

and have a hard time understanding why anyone (let alone those that have taken the oath) can support anything he does.

I will be very black and white in this point. If this is a literal statement, then you are a hack. And while I could put together a rather extensive list of individual things he has done that are quite easy for me or any other conservative-minded person to support, and I can even make a smaller list of things that any fair-minded liberal would support, if you can't do that on your own, then you are simply beyond any position that is worth engaging with. In that case, TDS is a fair label.