What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Dapper Dan Man]

The stories about this guy coming out of Laughlin are... incredible. 
I look forward to hearing about his upcoming FTU training.  

Genuine question, can he even enter FTU training? There’s no way the government isn’t suspending his security clearance….right???


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[BashiChuni]

4 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

The stories about this guy coming out of Laughlin are... incredible. 

I look forward to hearing about his upcoming FTU training.  

interesting cat for sure to put it mildly

[CaptainMorgan]

Genuine question, can he even enter FTU training? There’s no way the government isn’t suspending his security clearance….right???


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Maybe his exploits volunteered him for a FAIP tour instead of what he dropped.


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[HuggyU2]

Not sure I can trust someone who rolls their flightsuit sleeves above the elbow. WTF?

[Danger41]

On 11/8/2023 at 8:35 AM, CaptainMorgan said:

Maybe his exploits volunteered him for a FAIP tour instead of what he dropped.


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I think it usually is the opposite of that where they keep decent dudes around and send the turds off so they don't have to deal with them. I think that's why I was sent off instead of FAIP'ing.

[08Dawg]

15 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Not sure I can trust someone who rolls their flightsuit sleeves above the elbow. WTF?

Didn't see it before....can't unsee it now 😑

[pbar]

On 11/5/2023 at 4:04 PM, HuggyU2 said:

The stories about this guy coming out of Laughlin are... incredible. 

I look forward to hearing about his upcoming FTU training.  

Meh, we all did stupid stuff as lieutenants. 'Course the AF doesn't find out about most of it.  I'm still waiting for the hammer to drop on some of shenanigans I pulled as a Lt and I've been retired for 7 years. 

[artvandelay43201]

Why can’t I get out of the Air Force after 2 years after pilot training?!

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2023/11/14/officers-say-air-forces-new-parental-discharge-policy-is-broken/

 

[Lord Ratner]

39 minutes ago, artvandelay43201 said:

Why can’t I get out of the Air Force after 2 years after pilot training?!

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2023/11/14/officers-say-air-forces-new-parental-discharge-policy-is-broken/

 

I respect the hustle of taking advantage of a rule to try to get what you want. But to go crying to a newspaper because they aren't playing along... 

[SocialD]

28 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said:

I respect the hustle of taking advantage of a rule to try to get what you want. But to go crying to a newspaper because they aren't playing along... 

 

 

Right!  Are we sure this doesn't belong in the WTF thread?  

[Danger41]

Just stay in, have the kid, take a year off, never be available when you come back, schedule kid appointments in the middle of the day, come off sorties constantly because “the baby had a rough night”, get sent to the wing after the article about being a fierce fighter pilot Queen that can do it all, get tagged for a deployment, immediately get pregnant again, repeat cycle. 

[slc]

All in the name of "diversity and inclusion"

[tac airlifter]

46 minutes ago, Danger41 said:

Just stay in, have the kid, take a year off, never be available when you come back, schedule kid appointments in the middle of the day, come off sorties constantly because “the baby had a rough night”, get sent to the wing after the article about being a fierce fighter pilot Queen that can do it all, get tagged for a deployment, immediately get pregnant again, repeat cycle. 

Also work for a female Col at WG, get sent to staff with perfect strats, then get school when all the people putting in time on the line are denied.  Have said Col order your attached SQ/CC to upgrade you, take 18 months on a specially made syllabus, then never fly and ask the SQ/CC to make you an evaluator on paper.  Come back as the SQ/CC, don’t deploy, wreck any lethality of the team and continue upwards. Much inclusivity, very diverse and warrior queen.

[HeloDude]

Doesn’t sound like equality to me…

[tac airlifter]

1 hour ago, HeloDude said:

Doesn’t sound like equality to me…

"Equality" is camouflage for special privileges.  

Edited November 15, 2023 by tac airlifter

[dream big]

6 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Also work for a female Col at WG, get sent to staff with perfect strats, then get school when all the people putting in time on the line are denied.  Have said Col order your attached SQ/CC to upgrade you, take 18 months on a specially made syllabus, then never fly and ask the SQ/CC to make you an evaluator on paper.  Come back as the SQ/CC, don’t deploy, wreck any lethality of the team and continue upwards. Much inclusivity, very diverse and warrior queen.

Spend months planning the next “fly like a girl” public affairs stunt instead of actually contributing to the effectiveness of the unit

These vignettes could go on forever; it would be funny if they weren’t so accurate and indicative of the sad state of affairs of our military. 

[di1630]

Want to fly fighters?

Step 1. Find a ANG fighter unit that needs a quota because it’s overmanned with white males where you won’t have to compete to get there.

Step 2. Min run the training system, if anyone questions you not meeting standards, request a new UPT flight, different IPs or different FTU unit.

Trust that the system will ensure your success thru unlimited pandering regardless of your actual potential as a combat asset.

Based on a true story.


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[O Face]

36 minutes ago, di1630 said:

Want to fly fighters?

Step 1. Find a ANG fighter unit that needs a quota because it’s overmanned with white males where you won’t have to compete to get there.

Step 2. Min run the training system, if anyone questions you not meeting standards, request a new UPT flight, different IPs or different FTU unit.

Trust that the system will ensure your success thru unlimited pandering regardless of your actual potential as a combat asset.

Based on a true story.


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[BashiChuni]

2 hours ago, di1630 said:

Want to fly fighters?

Step 1. Find a ANG fighter unit that needs a quota because it’s overmanned with white males where you won’t have to compete to get there.

Step 2. Min run the training system, if anyone questions you not meeting standards, request a new UPT flight, different IPs or different FTU unit.

Trust that the system will ensure your success thru unlimited pandering regardless of your actual potential as a combat asset.

Based on a true story.


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step 3. piss off new FTU with your "untouchable" attitude...get "fired" from your ANG fighter unit before graduation.

step 4. repeat step 1.

[di1630]

step 3. piss off new FTU with your "untouchable" attitude...get "fired" from your ANG fighter unit before graduation.
step 4. repeat step 1.

Haha, ain’t no leadership that’s gonna stand up to this madness and risk their career.


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[HuggyU2]

12 hours ago, HeloDude said:

Doesn’t sound like equality to me…

Equity.  

[SocialD]

11 hours ago, di1630 said:

Haha, ain’t no leadership that’s gonna stand up to this madness and risk their career.

 

 

Most of the ANG SQ/CCs already have a seniority number and are close enough to a 20 yr retirement, they're not that worried 🤣.  

Edited November 16, 2023 by SocialD

[LookieRookie]

9 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Equity.  

A lot of people are under the misunderstanding that DE&I means diversity, equality and inclusion.

 It may have originally, but now it means diversity, equity and inclusion. AKA management/leadership forced outcomes no matter the input.

Also known as make the slides green.

 

[HeloDude]

The Air Force doesn’t want its members to go a conservative rally…shocking.
 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/air-force-base-warns-service-members-avoid-rally-speaker-pro-trump-group

[Blue]

43 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

The Air Force doesn’t want its members to go a conservative rally…shocking.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/air-force-base-warns-service-members-avoid-rally-speaker-pro-trump-group

Copy of the chat posted below, pulled from the Air Force amn/nco/snco Facebook page.

Fox News obviously has their own bias, and they love to rage-bait their audience.  But I really love how the SFS (and to a lesser extent, the MDG) really step all over their dick on this, for all the world to see.  This could have been: "Hey military members, there is a large political-related gathering downtown this weekend.  If you go, please use caution, as these things can get sporty  Also, don't be a dumbass and wear your uniform at the rally, because UCMJ."

Instead, they let their bias show: The Turning Point Action group is "Alt right?"  "Confrontational to military members?"  Says who?

Along with a veiled threat about attendance could "jeopardize their military careers."  And in the interest of just kinda throwing everything against the wall to see what sticks, they try to tie the rally to some random shooting elsewhere in Minot.

5SFS/CCF is the First Shirt, right?  Used to be that being posted as a Shirt was something special, reserved only for those SNCOs with superior levels of knowledge and judgement.  I'm going to take a wild guess that this First Shirt who chose to shine his/her ass for all the world to see is your typical diversity posting, promoted to a level and a position beyond his or her skill.  And nonsense like this is the inevitable result.

Kudos to the Air Force amn/nco/snco page.  It's 75% memes and other nonsense, but buried in there is a lot of real-live shining the light on the stupid, idiotic, and absurd.  This is an exceptionally good example - the chat was posted to the page about noon on Sunday, and made it to Fox News less than 48 hours later.

Look forward to the Minot Public Affairs folks releasing their inevitable back-pedaling statement.