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January 6th was a block party that got out of control. If you want to see an *actual* insurrection, you can look at the summer of 2020 when numerous democratic governments all but sanctioned mob violence in the name of social justice.

Old people suck. It's an inescapable force of nature that as you get older you get shittier. All you can do is try to start the process from a better position and slow the rate of decent into self-absorbed entitlement. Some do a very poor job of this. Add a lifetime of irresponsible financial planning, and maybe even an identity that is too wrapped up in the fantasy of a 1960s style airline captain, you end up with guys do and say anything to cling to the job longer.

It's already a huge stretch to call anything related to J6 treason. No one was working for a foreign entity against our government, and no one was trying to replace one form of government with another. In fact the people involved (wrongly) believed they were defending our system and the integrity of our elections. The intent is a vital distinction. That doesn't mean it was rational or acceptable. It was a riot, and riots are almost always bad. This one certainly was. But that's not treason.

Liquid, can YOU imagine calling a foreign military and telling them to ignore your boss (who happens to be the President). Milley's job was to advise the president, not undercut him. It's strange you'd condone this behavior. Seems the left would be outraged when the military tries to circumvent the Constitution by bypassing civilian control of the military. Strange times we're living in, indeed.

Lockheed would have delivered multiple T-50s within 6 months of contract award. not Prototypes, real working jets ready to execute iot&e then student sorties

When I began reading your post I thought you were referring to J6 of the Joint Staff and wondering what I was missing.

DEI is awful, and at the same time, I don't think it's directly responsible for this. That's just nonsense. Pulling back though, it is part of the larger, more dangerous, apathy that has taken hold in our country which says "competence doesn't matter and neither does accountability." Hopefully whoever is responsible for this is held accountable.

Experience does not guarantee proficiency. According to that article the crew had 1k/500/“a few hundred” hours…that’s not “extremely” experienced in my book (but also I don’t think that’s a significant contributor in this accident). Now tack on low proficiency (a guess, not stated as fact) and it’s very realistic task saturation/misprioritization led to being a couple hundred feet high, unfortunately at the worst time and place. Let he who has never found themselves a couple hundred (or more) feet high/low cast the first stone. It seems like altitude deconfliction is suspect in the NCR, so how about helos have to hover/hold if an aircraft is < X nm on approach to a runway that’s a factor to a HR, no exceptions (also maybe don’t allow circle to 33 at night). Helo can proceed once aircraft laterally displaced from HR by X amount. Seems a simple procedure change like this could substantially reduce the midair threat.

T-50 by a mile, then T-100. Both offered full suite logistics and simulator support COTS. Plug n play.

It never fails... a guy in the squadron knows the players involved in the flyover. More to the story as always. A quote from a great U-2 pilot, who is a master story teller: "Aviation is difficult, but we do it well...and when we do it well, it looks easy...and when it looks easy, it looks unimportant."

Anecdotal, but I've been in a 150' hover over Haines pt due to circling traffic to 33. In my case I was directed by tower to do so and it was daytime. Also anecdotal, but when I was flying in the NCR we were directed to fly as high as the R&Z chart allowed due to never ending noise complaints.

https://www.twz.com/35401/check-out-this-incredibly-rare-image-of-an-f-22-pilot-wearing-a-helmet-mounted-display apparently, scorpion (the company making this helmet) stopped by the shop recently showcasing their new design that they're wanting us to use since we are the only guard f22 base. I must say, this is a sick ass helmet.

The Sport of Kings claims another career. Starting to wonder if women in the military was really the force multiplier it was pitched as? 😂🤣

For the Gulf War dudes.

Would've been a hell of a lot of fun though!

You are incorrect. Chat gpt absolutely has a web search capability. You are confusing the LLM with the many surrounding services that create a product you can use like ChatGPT or DeepSeek, including the phone or web app that acts as an interface between the LLM and the user. The app has all the same security risks any other app, such as TIK TOK, can have.

Plot twist- the deep state isn't OGA or J2, or 3, or 35 or 5..... it's the J6! The one nobody ever expected! 🥃

Asked and answered brah. The T-50 was the "T-16" COA. It's circa an 80% replica. Boeing cheated (again); we all lost. It's over. But hey, do not despair, piston CFIs are going to save military aviation... if they're not too distracted updating their regional ehrirlineapppps on their phone. And if people think I'm being hyperbolic with the latter, then that tells me they don't have a fvcking clue what the operating and quality control realities of part 61 (even some 141) are. I cut my teeth in that morass before I touched a single .mil airplane; I know the rot in that pay to play, blind leading the blind environment. FAFO doesn't even begin to encapsulate the hubris of senior AF management in proferring this IPT imprudence with a straight face. What's insane is that the USAF/USN doesn't even recognize Army wings as real. But regional aspiring thumb-suckers is A-OK for .mil flying fundamentals, straight into a gazillion/multimillion dollar PL1/PL3 asset? And I'm the imprudent one here? Orwellian, this whole clusterfvck of dereliction.

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The most badass song ever made by pussies.

Note that Route 4 runs the east side of the river and right through final for 33...as others have noted circling to 33 at night adds another level of deconfliction.

Sounds a lot of like when the left blames the right, gun manufacturers, lack of gun control, etc after a shooting before the bodies are cold. They sadly both do it and it’s all bad IMO, so I definitely agree with you that this specific one is bad on Trump. This is the sickness of our politics.

The Pro age 67 FB group had a post this morning with the following quote. This accident on short final at DCA has inexperience written all over it. Please get out there and push for an EXECUTIVE ORDER to RAISE THE AGE IMMEDIATELY. We, the airline industry, are directly responsible for these deaths. There is no depth too low for which these guys will stoop, all in the name of getting theirs. Sadly he's one of us at DAL but is scheduled to retire in March. It can't get here soon enough. WTF is wrong with some people.

It’s not bordering vulgar, it is vulgar. These poor souls haven’t even been dead 24 hours yet and this is the topic he wants to bring up in a presser discussing the accident?

Dude exactly, when the E-9s push this crap, especially in a deployed environment, I tell them I assume that everything else must be going great, otherwise you have your priorities completely jacked up. When you are an E-9 or Commander, you only have so many “swings at the bat” to make meaningful impact, if you just wasted it on uniform wear then… Finally, and this instance is proof, E-9s only push this crap because they are enabled by their Commanders. Finally, I’m all about correcting folks if they look like a bag of a$$ in uniform, that doesn’t need command level guidance especially from the CSAF.

Reports I've seen only mention Trump criticizing DEI initiatives in the FAA and ATC, with no blame pointed towards the crews. WSJ link. Granted, I haven't listened to his remarks myself. But while pointing fingers at this early stage is clearly crass and bordering on vulgar, Trump is also not wrong. The FAA's push for DEI in the ATC ranks over the past several years is well documented. https://www.tracingwoodgrains.com/p/the-faas-hiring-scandal-a-quick-overview

DEI is horrible and needs to be destroyed, BUT it almost certainly has zero to do with last night. But, that hasn’t stopped millions of people (president on down) from declaring DEI as causal. It’s really sad because those people are showing their ignorance/clinging attachment to a politicized topic, but equally sad that the progressive left has created such a massive problem that many people just now assume that’s the cause. Bad all around.

This could be any of us at any moment. Live accordingly

The Donger!

No Dibs!

I did some time in the 1st HS. Both of these situations present themselves quite often. I've had to hover on several occasions to wait for landing traffic. At night, in DC, NVGs were not too effective with all of the cultural lighting. It could be very easy to maintain visual separation with the wrong aircraft. What a bad day for everyone involved.

Treason should not be pardonable (obviously assuming due process given and found guilty in trial). If all accounts are true, Milley should be swinging from a rope, not just retiring with lower rank/pay. We’ve completely gone soft on so many things, and treason is maybe the most egregious one of them.

Career badges are impossible to decipher. Give rated wings, kill all the other badges and give them basic tabs not broken out but broad. CE, WX, SF, ATC, etc. don’t make 10 different identifiers for each career field. Gives people pride and makes it easy to see what they do. Pilots do it with flight suits, let everyone else have a little morale and pride as well, within reason.

https://www.dvidshub.net/video/950666/air-force-standards-update-tabs-gen-david-w-allvin-air-force-chief-staff what a joke. Preaches a team and not being individualized with his nerd GO lightweight embroidered jacket with a nickname.

Good find. I had never seen the full video, only the one that showed the last bit. That wingman sucked. He's probably the OG/CC now.

Yup it’s a FUBAR decision but here we are. The T-50 may yet find a US buyer just not the USAF. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/content/dam/lockheed-martin/aero/documents/TF-50N Product Card.pdf https://aviationweek.com/defense/aircraft-propulsion/us-navy-steaming-ahead-new-trainer An interesting point Lemoine made was why not use the Viper? Yes way more expensive per flight hour but versus setting up a new program it might have made sense, at least initially.

A progressive is not for firing people who pushed the DEI nonsense…

They are. The reports so far the 60 appeared to be well above that. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

We do agree, but it’s weird you put a link completely irrelevant to the topic of treason and associated punishment, considering that guy (while perhaps a POS as a general statement) didn’t do that.