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Someone come get your boy. Apparently its been a hoax all along.

@grasshopper Truer words have never been spoken.

so weird, I thought it was the drag queens we needed to protect the kids from, not orange jesus 🤔

I figured that out as well. It's vomit inducing to let them all get a pass. I want the rapists to go to jail.

I think the whole point of the operation was EVERYONE was involved. Hence no pushback from anyone over the age of 30.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out Trump is involved. The only things that will save this country are the public arrival of Aliens (ETs not illegals) or the second coming of Jesus (not Hey Zeus but real Jesus).

You mean like the little black book? Which is openly out on the internet for you to read right now? https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epstein-39s-little-black-book-unredacted/page/34/mode/2up Or would you care about lawsuits opened by alleged victims claiming forced rape at 13, which names specific accomplices to Epstein, which were later retracted due to threats against them that made them scared for their lives? https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

No idea where this jet was in the movement process such as arrival or departure but let's assume it just pushed back. The crew is listening to the ground push crew (it does not appear anyone was on a headset with the crew but there are Bluetooth set ups now) and ramp or ground control. Unless one of those two entities told the crew that a lunatic was approaching the aircraft with the intent to throw himself into an intake, the crew had 0 visibility under the wing or close to the fuselage and had no idea this guy was there. Hard to react to a threat you never saw.

As someone who spent time in the 61 AS probably before you were in the USAF and 16 years as a KC-135 Boom Operator I’m trying to figure out the different age, ranks, service you interact with that tanker aircrew don’t? I’ve carried Army, Marines, SOF, three letter agencies, done AEs, loaded the same amount of pallets a C-130 can carry, delt with ATOC, done HR/dignified transfers, etc. If you’re referring to Rat, he’s a -141/-17 guy. His touch-and-go in tankers was to get command time, he hates tankers. He’s an airlift guy. There are retards in all MWS’s, Ratner wasn’t and isn’t one.

Being retired enlisted in a huge maintenance squadron OMS, AGS, or AMXS, pilots do not get or very little exposure to enlisted unless they fly a heavy with loadmasters/boomers, Flight engineers or flight mechanics. But that is a small exposure just to get todays mission done. They don't deal with the personnel issues such as EPR's, training, or discipline. We have junior mx officers with a MSgt Pro Super tied to them to keep them out of trouble before a O5 SQCC makes their life a living hell. My neighbor is a retired Army Apache pilot who was the MX officer in his unit, he flew all the OCF/FCFs before a line pilot flew it, totally different culture. It's been a while since the USAF had rated Mx officers and awhile MX was assigned to Ops squadrons. In the early 90's many OPCC's flew their jets into the ground not managing acft hours telling the MX officer and Senior Es to shut up and color. Try being in those squadrons with a bunch of whiney ABM's.

I was obviously unclear in my point, which is my mistake. I was not arguing that Air Force pilots do not have exposure to Air Force enlisted. I was arguing that Air Force pilots do not have exposure to the enlisted in the army and the Marines, which are an entirely different animal than enlisted airmen. What is required to motivate, discipline, and control enlisted airmen is not the same as what is required to motivate, discipline, and control soldiers and grunts. That's not from personal experience, obviously, it's from the experience of friends and family who were in the army and Marines. And it's from observations made of the absolute daily shit show that was the Marine Recon unit in Moron. And the army/Marine units in Bagram. If you think the enlisted communities between the services are the same, then we just have to agree to disagree. Different jobs, different applicant pools, different acceptance standards, and different expectations. Maybe @Lawman or @VMFA187 could chime in with more first-hand experience than I have. I don't think in-ranks inspections are coming from an Air Force perspective. It's coming from the bigger services and the AF is going to be along for the ride.

Multiple decades, multiple platforms, communities, MAJCOMs, and GCCs. Have watched our support functions go down the drain across the board and the burden continue to be delegated to the ones on the pointy end that actually need the most support to do their jobs, take care of their families, and execute the Service’s core missions. But it wasn’t until leading hundreds of enlisted Airmen across scores of AFSCs that I truly felt the “what are we doing here” hit me in the deepest parts where I’d previously managed to keep alive that spark of pride of service. Showing up late, leaving early, doing the bare minimum and often not even that… some not even able to wear their uniforms, no interest in the actual mission (sometimes lip service and often complaining, but no motivation when given opportunities to participate)… an unhealthy focus on unearned awards, decs, inflated EPBs, and “good deals”… Get off the flight line for a tour or two into a job where enlisted outnumber officers by 100:1 and you’ll see. But at the same time I can’t blame “the enlisted”. It’s culture. It starts with accessions and boot camp, tech school, senior enlisted, and the officers that lead them. That is not to say a single officer can make the changes needed — despite higher leadership edicts and Dunning-Kruger-officer platitudinisms to the contrary. That may sound bitter, but I’m not passed over or at risk of not promoting again. It’s watching officer peers promote with half the motivation, half the understanding of the mission, half the time in service (when weekly input/output is considered), and embodying all of the same “enlisted” issues highlighted above, at senior grades, that is crushing… but they checked the boxes. It’s institutional, and maybe we should start there.

I hear you, but I’ve supervised, rated, and commanded hundreds of enlisted of various AFSCs; while there are definitely some tards out there, most of them were solid hard working Americans. Some needed time to mature, some needed mentorship, but most just did their job and kept their nose down; in ranks inspection isn’t going to move the needle on the underlying issues with the junior enlisted.

Didn't fly the AT-6B but I know any variant of the T-6 sustains energy better than a 38 which we got by with for well over half a century. And the cherry on top is your ASD can be longer than a 0.8 😆

Are you sure you're a herk dude? All the herk dudes I've known weren't BALBA's...🤔

Hear me out here. Lets just give the tower or ground crews universal fuel shutoff switches to aircraft engines. Every guy on the line and in the tower has kill switch app on their phone. Problem solved.

You have a habit of being wrong in this thread, but at least you're consistent. Never been accused of being a fighter pilot before 😂🤣

This may help: https://www.gsaauctions.gov/auctions/preview/321142

You get a plane, I'll bring the watermelons!

Wonder who he works for now. Drones, they got some pretty high speed ones nowadays.

Fair enough, allow me to amend my statement: Clearly he's not an airlift pilot. I know many tanker pilot that I like. I also know for a fact that airlift and tanker mentalities are distinctly different. They both go push hard to hack missions, but they hack very different missions with very different users. Airlift pilots (my perspective being as a 20 year C-130 guy) interface daily with all ages, all ranks, and most services. We get to taste the how and why of pretty much every corner of the military with few exceptions. That allows the opportunity to gain a broad perspective. Granted not all of us take that opportunity, but it's there nonetheless. From an airlifter's perspective, our community was screwed over by more than one tanker pilot commander trying to run airlift units like tanker units...(which incidentally was the only time I ever experienced an open ranks inspection after basic, thanks two tanker O-6's who's names I shall not repeat, but I digress)...which has left a long-standing scar tissue in the memory of many a herk driver. In the end I said what I said. Ratner sounds like he thinks his perspective as a pilot is one we all share, when in fact it is not. It's been a trend these past few days over several threads: The air India crash was caused by a bad FO, then pilots should shut down motors in response to events they can't even physically see, now pilots need to understand the importance of discipline because we live in a bubble and don't understand the rest of the military. Wrong on all fronts. Three times is a trend.

Definitely Little Rock area. ASP and Arkansas LE in general has some real gems and have for many years. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=2ahUKEwjEhKTnlMCOAxX04ckDHboYPR4QFnoECBoQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.kark.com%2Fnews%2Fworking4you%2Farkansas-state-police-settle-pit-maneuver-lawsuit-which-injured-pregnant-woman%2F&usg=AOvVaw2WALwAbj99a9jKiqfbIYE4&opi=89978449 Arkansas trooper retires after PIT maneuver on wrong car | thv11.com Most agencies don't want to fund air units because of the cost but if you ask me to avoid one multi-million-dollar lawsuit its paid for itself. Not to mention realizing you're never going to outrun an aircraft you have a substantial deterrent effect.

Graphic said 2x 22 and 2x 35 but I only saw 3. Solid 10 seconds post anthem. okay. 10 percent rule.