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The Naval Aviators responsible for the low beach flyby have been identified.

Would love to hear what takes of mine pertaining to this war are “laughably incorrect” Is it, in no particular order: -That Israel roped us into this -Our own DNI said Iran wasn’t making a nuke prior to the start of the war -Our destruction of a non-factor navy and Air Force doesn’t amount to a strategic win -Iran was never in a weak negotiating position which is why we signed a deal favorable to them -Iran’s TBM stockpile is mostly intact and the primary tool for their power projection -The blockade of their blockade didn’t do shit -Bombing cave entrances in a country of 90 million people the size of the entire eastern US didn’t (and won't currently) accomplish shit -We did not effect regime change and in fact ended up with a more hardline one -The people did not rise up -We have depleted our interceptor and SOW munitions to an alarming level that will take years to replace -We are objectively on the back foot in other AORs that had their resources poached for this boondoggle -Trump’s apocalyptic and incoherent messaging was strategically damaging and galvanized the Iranian public against us -We fell into an escalation trap that we now cannot get out of -Still don’t have the nuke dust -Constant admin goalpost shifting about the objectives where now just getting the strait back open and un-tolled would be considered a win There ya go. Feel free to address any of them specifically and I’ll respond with well sourced arguments. But this hiding behind “you don’t know what you’re talking about” or “you’d know the real story if you were in the strat division vault” is just pathetic BS. We can all see the shitshow unfolding with our own eyes.

Just so I understand. Low-T is a brutal condition that affects the ability to maintain physical conditioning. And it affects multiple service members on this board alone. and We shouldn't be testing for low-T. Do I have that right? Are we doing to pretend like we care? Women in the military was never about physical performance.

When you have zero coherent argument in support of this war:

I just grabbed an H&K VP9A1 F because I'm tired of stretching my little girl hands as far as they go to hit the slide release. It's actually a really nice pistol so far. I'm not crazy about the trigger-guard-mag-release, but I guess nothing is perfect. Also been working on a custom storage wall since I have a 3D printer. Pretty happy with it so far

I propose a new amendment: All sitting NCA individuals should not be allowed to use social media while in office. Almost all Silent generation and many Boomers on the socials don't understand the simple fact: Most thoughts you have don't deserves and audience.

I pilot I have mentored since he was 14 is a TPS grad and stationed there as an IP. As late as Thursday the wreckage was still on the runway. He mentioned they got back to flying and he decided to go to Palmdale rather than do patterns and see the wreckage on every pattern. It's been tough on the entire test and bomber community, I think there legacy will live on because they touched so many lives.

And yet here you are defending them. "Human animals" is pretty generous for what those people did on October 7th. No, the children of Gaza did not participate in the rape and massacre, but they also weren't targeted. They were positioned like sacrifices by their parents and their parents' friends to make sure they would die when the Israelis attacked. "Human Animals" does not come close to describing that level of depravity. You can whine and moan all day long about the asymmetry and unfairness of the situation, but there's no amount of poverty or oppression that justifies sacrificing your children. If your moral compass is so defunct that you can't wrap your head around that, honestly it makes the rest of your positions a lot more understandable. It doesn't make them any less wrong, but at least there is an underlying consistency that can be predicted. “We love death like our enemies love life.” - Former Hamas Prime Minister Ismail Haniyeh Killing monsters is never an atrocity (or genocide), no matter how many of them you have to kill, and no matter how many of their children they hold up in front of your weapons. It's ugly and tragic, and an inescapable feature of war for the entirety of human history.

Absolutely agreed, but Vance will get Trump's full backing for whatever that's worth! It just would nice not to have to consume a full bottle of Pepto Bismol when voting this next time! But if the Dems put up Kamala, Gavin, Buttigieg, AOC or any of the other clowns they're considering; it looks like I'll be voting R again unless they totally screw up their nomination. Rubio/DeSantis would be my favorite ticket but as we all know, Vance is the heir apparent...

Homie about to be force shaped.

Dibs on the trash can, or on the orange and blue corrugated metal mesh waste receptacle?

Sketch If it was supposed to be a secret that Doc was flying a Flanker when he was tragically killed, then it was an appallingly badly kept one, and the Air Force needs to do a much better job of keeping the compartments you speak of airtight. I take the "toxic journalist: 'Hey, I know X&Y'" allegation very seriously. It's disappointing that this is your conclusion about me. I wish I could tell you about some of the emotional drivers for researching the story and telling it the way I did, but they pertain to Doc's immediate family, and therefore rightly remain private.

HA! You guys are full of great stories. That's rich, cheap FPV drones delivering warheads. Jumper must have laughed out loud. Next you're gunna tell me there will be land war in Europe in the 2020's!

Field fairies from around the world enjoying the good ole USA. https://x.com/TaraLaRosa/status/2072350974845260269/video/1?s=46

I don’t agree with everything Pete has done but in terms of worst SecDef ever…

Is anybody else going to be completely unsurprised if we find out that M2's old ass died a year ago and a rogue AI agent trained on his content and took over his account without anyone noticing? 😂🤣

"There's a guy on short final with a bazooka but otherwise winds are 210 at 10, cleared to land" 🤦🏼‍♂️

Well done, Spain!!

There's no such thing as correcting exactly back to the trend line. Hegseth was the response to things getting way out of whack on the dei/safe space/pussification side of the spectrum. He's going to spin the wheel hard right, get back to the center line, and blow through it a little bit. We're never going to know whether or not this is handled correctly because we're not going to know what the actual debrief for that pilot sounds like. But if he is chastised, given a few shitty additional duties here and there, and otherwise not punished for a singular mistake, then I would say hegseth and company have handled this well. There is absolutely no need to discuss the disciplinary side of this publicly, because ultimately nothing happened.

Yep. The vast majority of those complaining about being tested (like you said, not forced to take anything) are largely the same people who: 1) Supported forcing members to take an unproven and unnecessary vaccine or be disciplined 2) Supported needing “extremism” training because somehow the military is full of white supremacists 3) Believe that boys can suddenly become girls, and that’s it’s ok to have these people with serious mental health issues serve in the military and be told they’re just fine and normal Oh, and one of the first things I asked my civilian PCP after I retired was for a lab test to check my testosterone levels, in addition to many other lab tests the military doesn’t seem to normally do.

As it turns out, Infantry officers should not be in command of aviators. Who knew?!?

Usually right after they pranged on the landing. There is something pathologically narcissistic about the Boomer's interaction with the world. It feels far moreso than previous generations when they got to that age. Instead of giving back to their families and communities and helping guide and uplift the next generation, they've chosen to move to 55+ communities where they're blowing the generational wealth they accumulated as well as the Social Security benefits they voted for themselves. As if they didn't get enough out of life and they deserve more right before they die. It's gross. I still fly with a few of these guys and they are almost universally on the edge of unsafe as pilots. There are the odd few who still fly little planes, and those guys tend to be a lot sharper than their cohort. Unfortunately they are few and far between.

Yeah it would be really fucking nice if for a change we didn't have literal invalids sitting in some of the 500 most powerful positions in the country. The gerontocracy needs to come to an end. It's absolutely bananas that the people with the least skin in the game are running everything.

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Well this explains it…

Oh my God, he has donors who share similar beliefs and desires???!!!! Burn him! Welcome to America dude, where politics is an extremely expensive endeavor and donors are the only way you’re getting anywhere beyond the school board. Did you listen to Rowe’s podcast? I haven’t, but I will.

For the millionth time it isn’t about “the Jews.” It is about the government of Israel and every time you guys falsely accuse people of racism you dig the hole even deeper for yourselves. But by all means continue and let’s see how far public sentiment for Israel can crater, I doubt we’ve found the bottom yet. Just keep shouting “anti semite” like the right wing doppelgänger of a blue haired smith college student and then ponder, along with the great mysteries of the universe, why your arguments keep losing traction. I have an issue with a government. A foreign government that we give a shit ton of money to. Not a people, not a race, not an ethnic group. Full stop. My claim the government of Israel has outsized influence on our politics is based on: AIPAC not being registered as a foreign lobby, and yes being extremely influential and powerful despite there being a handful of domestic lobbying groups that are bigger Netanyahu visiting DC more than any other head of state in recent years especially in the lead up to the war Sitting US senators quoted as saying the main reason they ran for office is to be a defender of Israel Batshit dispensationalist Christians who believe it is their religious duty to support a foreign government Israel being the largest recipient of US foreign aid since its founding The legislation CURRENTLY being pushed to merge some of the US and Israeli government defense functions The fact that we have attempted to or have toppled the governments of all 7 countries listed in the Israeli clean break strategy That our welfare baby country actively defies us and sabotages our negotiations on a routine basis Campaign donations to Trump in the hundreds of millions from the Adelsons motivated entirely by Israel support (Trump admitted they won’t leave him alone about it) The sitting US ambassador to Israel endorsing the greater Israel project But yeah since the AARP is bigger than one pro Israel lobbying group probably I’m a racist and it’s all just a conspiracy. PS. Saw we’re back to bombing as of last night. I’m sure this one will do the trick

$3.50 says he runs for political office.

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Fingers crossed. Then do magazine capacity.

Wow, crazy thread. Stumbled on it by accident. I worked for Foglesong when he was a mere O3 flying T-33s. He was detachment commander; I think we had 4 pilots counting Bob. We didn't really have a lot of drama with him in those days tho there was some noise about friction between him and his ops officer. I guess authority went to his head tho because some of these stories...just...holy crap. We figured he was on some sort of fast track when general Creech showed up for a looksee at our little operation. Seemed highly unusual. Bob left soon after to fly F-15s. I lost track after that.

.. so we need to escalate in order to.. encourage Europe to recapitalize their energy independence, so that in some future hypothetical war that’s a foregone conclusion (in your head) our allies will be stronger? Guys these justifications are getting more and more convoluted and nonsensical. Talk about a goalpost shift.. I thought this was about an “imminent nuclear threat” to the US homeland

This is beyond tragic. I can't claim to have known any of the crew but I'm confident I've crossed paths with atleast a few during my occasional trips to KEDW. I don't want this thread to dissipate so fast, like how the rest of the websphere has a ten second attention span. We need to keep these bros in our thoughts & prayers as long as possible.

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DIBS since biff dont want it!

Normally I would but that lady is a weird type of fat. She looks like a meatball on toothpicks.

Yep, pretty much. The major, unforced error was starting the ceasefire back in April, stupidly thinking diplomacy would “totally work this time” with Iran, then combining that effort with, as you put it: short cuts, threats, mean tweets. Turns out none of those things worked worth a damn with Iran. The momentum was solid, the ass beating was large, and then we just stopped and have subsequently created the proverbial shit sandwich. As someone said earlier, tactical ass whooping without the foresight/capability to see it through to a strategic victory.

Too old (T38) Gotta move on, just for all the decision makers lurking here, hedge, get an interim / second advanced trainer

Trump started a war of consequence without the support of Congress or the American people and changed a status quo that favored the US to a status quo that favors Iran. Iran has been a problem for a long time, but maybe previous administrations didn’t “do something about it” because there was a high probability or a poor outcome.

Everyone has to retire at some point. Guy was a 4-star general with 34 years..where the fuck was he supposed to go from here? COCOM, CSA, or Chairman. Also it’s been well known for some time that USAREUR is downgrading to 3 star command similar to USAFE. Not everything has to be some major conspiracy. Dude probably didn’t see a path forward and decided it was time to hang it up.