Swizzle Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 8 hours ago, General Chang said: 3 words: SERVICE BEFORE SELF. 2 hours ago, BashiChuni said: This. The paradox is there can be no service without self. People are advocating for balance between service and self. It's a value proposition. And obviously the Services' haven't found an equilibrium with volunteers. The individual, the self, is the basis upon which service made. So, @General Chang @BashiChuni how do define yourselves? What do you value? Especially if what you value and what you do defines yourself, please answer. Is it family? Self autonomy? Ameanable living conditions? What balance, if any, do you require for their to be a self to serve? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 4 hours ago, herkbum said: Gave all the service I could. All out of service after last night with Chang’s and Bashi’s mom. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 12 minutes ago, brabus said: All out of service after last night with Chang’s and Bashi’s mom. BQZip's mom had the night off? 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 Service time does count apparently. Not sure where I heard that it didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Day Man Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 3 hours ago, Swizzle said: So, @General Chang @BashiChuni how do define yourself? fixed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 1 hour ago, uhhello said: Service time does count apparently. Not sure where I heard that it didn't. There was an initial message, later corrected, that said VRRAD did not count towards TIS. I heard it as well. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted February 9 Share Posted February 9 I don’t understand why the AF needs to do this to fix their problems when they can just continue to implement DEI programs instead 🤷♂️ 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lord Ratner Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 20 hours ago, General Chang said: 3 words: SERVICE BEFORE SELF. I knew it was coming, but it's still a thrill 🤣😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViperMan Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 7 hours ago, HeloDude said: I don’t understand why the AF needs to do this to fix their problems when they can just continue to implement DEI programs instead 🤷♂️ Yeeeeaaaaaah, I thought the whole purpose of DEI was this notion that there were massive sources of untapped talent out there just waiting to be accessed...a veritable HR gold rush if you will. Am I to believe it's not going as expected??? Nothing says diversity quite like hiring back the same people who already worked here once upon a time. 🤣🤣🤣 1 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs-N-Guns Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 I spoke to an O-6 yesterday and he said about 40 had signed up. I asked if any were pilots and he said "yes". But that's about all I found out. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted February 10 Share Posted February 10 13 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said: I spoke to an O-6 yesterday and he said about 40 had signed up. I asked if any were pilots and he said "yes". But that's about all I found out. 1 6 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Swizzle Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 4 hours ago, Dogs-N-Guns said: Those with retirement orders got the email, at least near me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 A guy who retired a few years back, and is flying airlines applied because he is just missing flying fighters. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdriver Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 7 hours ago, di1630 said: A guy who retired a few years back, and is flying airlines applied because he is just missing flying fighters. I would guess this is all they are really trying to grab up. Small numbers, but free chicken. Probably a handful of folks' pet project. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brabus Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 hours ago, di1630 said: A guy who retired a few years back, and is flying airlines applied because he is just missing flying fighters No way they let him come back to fly fighters. I wouldn’t want him, unless he’s a phenomenal dude who’s going to be a badass OG or WG/CC, and the AF isn’t going to let him be one of those. I hope he realizes working on staff or in an AOC is not going to scratch the “I miss fighters” itch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dogs-N-Guns Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I missed flying. Starting flying paramotors 4 years ago. Love it. Low and slow.Virtually no rules, FAR 103 is less than 2 pages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeloDude Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 8 hours ago, di1630 said: A guy who retired a few years back, and is flying airlines applied because he is just missing flying fighters. Is he trying to get a leave of absence approved with the airline or just going to quit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 Is he trying to get a leave of absence approved with the airline or just going to quit?I assume this is all covered thru USERRA Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 No way they let him come back to fly fighters. I wouldn’t want him, unless he’s a phenomenal dude who’s going to be a badass OG or WG/CC, and the AF isn’t going to let him be one of those. I hope he realizes working on staff or in an AOC is not going to scratch the “I miss fighters” itch. I’m following the process and will keep you guys updated. Honestly knowing the guy, I think he’d be spun up to be an FTU IP pretty quick and do it better than some of the foreigners we have to spin up. I wouldn’t think we’d waste 6 months TX/IPUG for 1.5 yrs of instruction…..then I realize it’s the USAF so economics make no sense. I’ve seen worse. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network mobile app 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
disgruntledemployee Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 My previous wish list last time they thought of bringing us back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 I put my application in last night. Raptor to Hurlburt or don't call me back. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted February 11 Share Posted February 11 On 2/9/2024 at 8:42 AM, Swizzle said: The paradox is there can be no service without self. People are advocating for balance between service and self. It's a value proposition. And obviously the Services' haven't found an equilibrium with volunteers. The individual, the self, is the basis upon which service made. So, @General Chang @BashiChuni how do define yourselves? What do you value? Especially if what you value and what you do defines yourself, please answer. Is it family? Self autonomy? Ameanable living conditions? What balance, if any, do you require for their to be a self to serve? first of all general chang is the finest flag officer i have had the privilege of knowing. his commitment to this country is ironclad. second, to answer your question, when retired service members see the recruiting numbers are in trouble, and the air force puts out a call to help, you are duty (dare i say honor) bound to put your civilian career aside and serve. you signed a oath for life and should honor that oath. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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