tac airlifter Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 That “whistleblower” seems like a grade A douche. 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff_T Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 I'm offended by dragons. Especially if I'm not in on the joke. "Offended" is a word that has given many weak insignificant people a way to feel strong and important. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 21 hours ago, DirkDiggler said: Couldn't come at a worse time for the people caught up in this; CAT 5 just took over AFSOC a couple days ago. He's going to crucify/proper FUCK anyone that he even suspects could possibly make him look bad. Truly one of the worst humans to ever put on a uniform and a classic example of rot in the system, I feel bad for the men and women in AFSOC and what is about to happen to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkDiggler Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Danger41 said: I’m glad the whistleblower is anonymous but had zero issues putting names, faces, and locations of several unit members out for all the world to see. WTFO. Yeah that whole complaint sounded like a lesson in general douchebaggery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homestar Posted December 18, 2022 Share Posted December 18, 2022 3 hours ago, ClearedHot said: Truly one of the worst humans to ever put on a uniform and a classic example of rot in the system, I feel bad for the men and women in AFSOC and what is about to happen to them. How so? No dog in this fight, just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 (edited) And just like that!... the U-2 gets a new moniker. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/u2-dragon-lady.html Hail Dragons! Edited December 19, 2022 by HuggyU2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 11 hours ago, Homestar said: How so? No dog in this fight, just curious. A LONG history of narcissistic behavior, destroying careers while having his own failings covered up. It has been covered in other threads but trying to punish someone for losing a weapon downrange then doing the same himself, running a CV-22 into a tree, giving 20+ commander directed Q-3s as a SQ/CC, general caustic behavior that has been repeatedly rewarded. Ask anyone in AFSOC about "CAT 5", he got that name because he destroys everything like a hurricane. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
08Dawg Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 1 hour ago, ClearedHot said: giving 20+ commander directed Q-3s as a SQ/CC, That averages close to one a month… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 2 hours ago, 08Dawg said: That averages close to one a month… He learned from the best… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigred Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 4:08 PM, HuggyU2 said: And just like that!... the U-2 gets a new moniker. https://www.lockheedmartin.com/en-us/products/u2-dragon-lady.html Hail Dragons! Great potential for an ‘interesting’ solo party… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Ratner Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/18/2022 at 6:10 PM, ClearedHot said: A LONG history of narcissistic behavior, destroying careers while having his own failings covered up. It has been covered in other threads but trying to punish someone for losing a weapon downrange then doing the same himself, running a CV-22 into a tree, giving 20+ commander directed Q-3s as a SQ/CC, general caustic behavior that has been repeatedly rewarded. Ask anyone in AFSOC about "CAT 5", he got that name because he destroys everything like a hurricane. And yet, his actions selected him for a position of immense power. It's not a fluke, all the nonsense feel-good speeches from guys like Mosely and Welsh and Goldfein we're just fluff. The military is an organization that lacks/avoids any metric for success (profit, customer satisfaction, productivity, reduced casualties, successful pullout from Afghanistan, etc) and therefore the least valuable on the outside will become the most successful on the inside. Perhaps, like in the past, a real war will fix that, but a decade later we'll be right back to where we are today. 1 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pbar Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 9 minutes ago, Lord Ratner said: And yet, his actions selected him for a position of immense power. It's not a fluke, all the nonsense feel-good speeches from guys like Mosely and Welsh and Goldfein we're just fluff. The military is an organization that lacks/avoids any metric for success (profit, customer satisfaction, productivity, reduced casualties, successful pullout from Afghanistan, etc) and therefore the least valuable on the outside will become the most successful on the inside. If you think the Air Force chooses senior leaders poorly, try working for state government. The USAF is inspired genius in comparison.... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said: And yet, his actions selected him for a position of immense power. It's not a fluke, all the nonsense feel-good speeches from guys like Mosely and Welsh and Goldfein we're just fluff. The military is an organization that lacks/avoids any metric for success (profit, customer satisfaction, productivity, reduced casualties, successful pullout from Afghanistan, etc) and therefore the least valuable on the outside will become the most successful on the inside. Perhaps, like in the past, a real war will fix that, but a decade later we'll be right back to where we are today. It is truly sad to see one narcissist lunatic not only protect another but pave the way for the second evil clown to advance. The worst part is some real leaders in AFSOC retired because of it. One two star in particular is a natural leader and would have done great things, now he is retired living in Oregon and working for industry...truly a crime. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sua Sponte Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 47 minutes ago, ClearedHot said: It is truly sad to see one narcissist lunatic not only protect another but pave the way for the second evil clown to advance. The worst part is some real leaders in AFSOC retired because of it. One two star in particular is a natural leader and would have done great things, now he is retired living in Oregon and working for industry...truly a crime. Sounds like AFSOC picked up some leadership "techniques" from AMC. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
contraildash Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/19/2022 at 1:10 AM, ClearedHot said: flew a CV-22 through a bunch of trees FIFY. Bold move listing this as aircraft flown on his bio. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 i remember the OG brief cat 5 had when he was called out for not filling out the safety report... same command climate that was Q3ing guys left and right for all kinds of ticky tack bull shit...and this cat (no pun intended), hits trees and walks consequence free...maybe it's cause the wing king at the time has no integrity either? just a guess... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 On 12/20/2022 at 11:40 AM, pbar said: If you think the Air Force chooses senior leaders poorly, try working for state government. The USAF is inspired genius in comparison.... Try working for airline management..... True happiness is flying at an airline & not giving a single jack shit about said airline management. Cheers & Merry Christmas! doc retired USAF retired B777I Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 The Navy trying to keep up as usual... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-navy-commanders-fired-in-one-day/ar-AA16x4YR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLEA Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 4 minutes ago, M2 said: The Navy trying to keep up as usual... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/2-navy-commanders-fired-in-one-day/ar-AA16x4YR Interestingly I've heard the Navy fires way more commanders than any other branch. A combination of believing everyone deserves a shot at command, and therefore, performing no screening processes before awarding command--and having a higher power hierarchy then other branches which tends to foment toxic environments easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialD Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Every time this thread resurfaces, I quickly check it to see if I get to retire a few months early! Guess I'll keep going to work a little while longer... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uhhello Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, FLEA said: Interestingly I've heard the Navy fires way more commanders than any other branch. A combination of believing everyone deserves a shot at command, and therefore, performing no screening processes before awarding command--and having a higher power hierarchy then other branches which tends to foment toxic environments easier. Don't they have a shit ton more command billets than other branches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirkDiggler Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 1 hour ago, FLEA said: Interestingly I've heard the Navy fires way more commanders than any other branch. A combination of believing everyone deserves a shot at command, and therefore, performing no screening processes before awarding command--and having a higher power hierarchy then other branches which tends to foment toxic environments easier. Can't speak to the SWO side of the house (never asked one, they're a pretty strange bunch) but Naval Aviation has a screening process for command. They basically have tiers (anyone directly involved in this feel free to correct any incorrect info). Tier 1 is line/fleet squadron, Teir 2 is RAG/training squadrons, and Tier 3 is all others. Of my 3 Navy Pilot buddies on staff, one screened Teir 1 and commanded an SH-60 squadron in San Diego, one screened Tier 3 and commanded the Naval Brig in San Diego (everyone who knew this guy, was a phenomenal bro, thought this hilarious, the jokes wrote themselves), and the last guy didn't make the cut/didn't command (went back to flying for his last assignment, which is pretty rare in Navy Aviation as I understand it). Guy I went to JPMEII with (submariner) had an interesting take on the Navy canning as many skippers as they do. At least in his world, he felt every firing he'd heard about or seen over the course of his career was justified. Every captain of a Navy submarine is directly in charge of running a nuclear reactor (or dozens of nuclear warheads if it's an SSBN). His opinion was there's just no leeway/wiggle room if a higher level commander thinks a guy is untrustworthy/unsuitable for command based on the above responsibility. One guy's opinion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
streak Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 California's ANG dumpster fire smolders on. This time it was their O-7 Asst TAG. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-01-07/a-top-general-is-fired-from-the-scandal-plagued-california-national-guard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 24 minutes ago, streak said: California's dumpster fire smolders on. FIFY. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swizzle Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 https://weartv.com/amp/news/local/hurlburt-field-special-operations-commander-arrested-fired-for-alleged-dui-hit-and-run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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