The Next President is...

[Smokin]

I think we too often underestimate how much to consider what people say about themselves and what they believe.  For example, when Hamas says they want to 'kill every Jew in the world' we would do well to take that seriously.

However, there are also people that need to basically be watched on mute because they are either playing to a target audience, just like constantly being the center of attention, or riling up the other side to get a desired reaction.  Trump is in this second group.  Ignore what he says and pay attention to what he does.

[kaputt]

3 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

amazing how kamala went from the most unpopular vice president in history, to suddenly a media darling front runner for president.

who hasn't won any vote for nomination, just picked by the big bosses in their soft coup. "defending democracy!"

What’s worse is much of the American public seems to be buying it. 

[BashiChuni]

49 minutes ago, kaputt said:

What’s worse is much of the American public seems to be buying it. 

pre covid i wasn't too awake to the intense propaganda the media blasts the public with, but post covid holy hell is it obvious once you see it. operation mockingbird was a real thing and probably very much in use today under a new name.

just the fact the dems now say kamala was no longer in charge of the border, when she obviously was, is so 1984 Orwellian.

[M2]

14 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

amazing how kamala went from the most unpopular vice president in history, to suddenly a media darling front runner for president.

who hasn't won any vote for nomination, just picked by the big bosses in their soft coup. "defending democracy!"

You mean shit like this?

‘Republicans for Harris’ launch features key names, impressive numbers

According to a press statement from the incumbent vice president’s campaign, Republicans for Harris includes endorsements from former Trump White House officials Stephanie Grisham and Olivia Troye; former Secretaries Chuck Hagel and Ray LaHood; former Governors Jim Edgar, Bill Weld, and Christine Todd Whitman; former U.S. House members Rod Chandler, Tom Coleman, Dave Emery, Wayne Gilchrest, Jim Greenwood, Adam Kinzinger, John LeBoutillier, Susan Molinari, Jack Quinn, Denver Riggleman, Claudine Schneider, Christopher Shays, Peter Smith, Alan Steelman, David Trott, and Joe Walsh; and former GOP State Chair and State Senator Chris Vance, among others.

Of course, Adam Kinzinger is in that bunch! 😡😡

Speaking of which, I've just noticed @Homestar has been noticeable absent from here since March 2023!  On 1 Feb 21, he famously posted "I hope Adam Kinzinger is still reading this forum. He is the future of the Republican Party. If he and Dan Crenshaw could combine forces we could actually return to real conservative leadership." and "Maybe we could get a Crenshaw-Kinzinger ticket in 2024?"

His last post was... "There are times where I think that there's no way that our country would find itself back in a place where brothers are killing brothers on a battle field. But then I read threads here and am reminded that there are absolutely people here who wouldn't hesitate to shoot me dead if we ever get into a shooting war against ourselves."

[tac airlifter]

10 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

pre covid i wasn't too awake to the intense propaganda the media blasts the public with....

100% same.  Pre-Covid I only partly paid attention to or cared about politics. Now I feel like my eyes are open, and the coordinated big media propaganda is an active, obvious, and evil presence in our country.

[ClearedHot]

16 minutes ago, tac airlifter said:

100% same.  Pre-Covid I only partly paid attention to or cared about politics. Now I feel like my eyes are open, and the coordinated big media propaganda is an active, obvious, and evil presence in our country.

[BFM this]

In more banal news:

Media clutching pearls over JDV “eyeliner”

Nixon - JFK debates called: they want their news flash back 

[Sim]

 

[bfargin]

Computer expert too

https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1819797240052920758

[bfargin]

Brilliant economist as well.

[bfargin]

 

Sounds like he didn't desert but he didn't fulfill his last re-enlistment of 6 years (bailed early legally when he found out he was about to be deployed). The real issue is claiming to have carried weapons "in war" and retired as a Command Sgt Major instead of his actual retirement rank of E-8.

I take issue with the "in war" part since he was never in Iraq or Afghanistan, but I'm not too bothered by the rank issue (he did serve as a provisional CSM for a few months before he retired). 

Big deal or not?

[lilyelliott4]

On 11/9/2016 at 10:35 AM, BashiChuni said:

one of the bigger upsets i can remember

i should have put money on trump three weeks ago when he was +700

Crazy, right? Hindsight is 20/20. Betting on Trump at +700 would have been a huge win!

[Smokin]

We'll see.  Dems are only excited about Harris because she's not Biden.  It'll be interesting to see if that lasts or if they'll remember that she was one of the first primary candidates to drop out 4 years ago because she was polling in the low single digits.

DEI politics could come back to bite the Dems.  Had Biden chosen just about any of the other primary candidates for a VP back then, I'd bet that person would be up 10 points in the polls and would cruise through the election.  On the flip side, had the Republicans nominated just about any other candidate, that person would be up 10 points over Harris.

[Lord Ratner]

4 hours ago, Negatory said:

All of the arguments here the past couple of weeks:

 

It’s not that hard. Pick a new candidate and you’d have a chance. The Dems did it and are gonna win because of it. If Rs had gone Nikki Haley before Biden dropped out, this wouldn’t even be close. Trump can only win against a candidate at terrible as Biden.

He was a better candidate than Hillary, and Hilary was by far a better candidate than Kamala. 

 

I suspect all Kamala did was reenergize the (D) turnout, so now we have two high-turnout candidates. 

 

If Kamala and Walz are stupid enough to debate, they'll probably lose. If they keep hiding from any scrutiny or positions, they have a chance. But the race is always about swing states, and I can't imagine how two open progressives from two solidly progressive states will change the electoral math. 

 

Either way, it's clear the Democratic party is as dead as the Republican party. I'm not sure what emerges from the ashes.

[jice]

2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Either way, it's clear the Democratic party is as dead as the Republican party. I'm not sure what emerges from the ashes.

Sadly, we all know the answer to this one: The Democratic and Republican Party!.. but better. No, really; they’re totally gonna turn it around this time. 
 

It’s time to get serious about ranked choice voting and open primaries.

[HeloDude]

8 hours ago, Negatory said:

All of the arguments here the past couple of weeks:

 

It’s not that hard. Pick a new candidate and you’d have a chance. The Dems did it and are gonna win because of it. If Rs had gone Nikki Haley before Biden dropped out, this wouldn’t even be close. Trump can only win against a candidate at terrible as Biden.

So how much money are you putting on Kamala since you’re 100% sure she’s going to win?

[Lord Ratner]

19 minutes ago, Negatory said:

 I (and many others) would vote for a different Republican over Harris (although I do like Walz).

Why? I'll be blunt, this just feels like you saying something you don't believe to sound moderate. Walz is one of the most progressive governors in the US. The Trump policy position is one of the most moderate in recent Republican history. 

 

So exactly which Republican would you support over Harris, and what are the policy differences between that Republican and Walz that would put you in that position? 

 

Or do you just know nothing about Walz? That would be pretty standard for an American voter.

[SurelySerious]

 
Or do you just know nothing about Walz? That would be pretty standard for an American voter.

He’s just the lovable white grandpa looking guy, right?

[BashiChuni]

harris = most progressive senator

walz = very progressive governor.

all you saying you want a more moderate republican need to realize that if you vote for harris you are voting for the progressive left of the democratic party.

[tac airlifter]

6 hours ago, HeloDude said:

So how much money are you putting on Kamala since you’re 100% sure she’s going to win?

Are we gambling for booze???

 

[HeloDude]

6 hours ago, Negatory said:

 (although I do like Walz).

The fact that you like Walz confirms everything that we already thought about you.

[HeloDude]

1 hour ago, tac airlifter said:

Are we gambling for booze???

 

I’m talking about actual legal betting on who is going to win.  People on both sides talk really tough that they’re “so confident” their candidate will win, and yet they would never put money on them winning.  Even before Biden dropped out I thought that the election favored Trump, but I wouldn’t bet $10K on it…maybe I would bet a nice dinner and that’s about it.  

[SHFP]

13 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Are we gambling for booze???

 

Maybe the Booze Bet I won from ya about when POTUS would step down?  Even though I was off by a few days, but you were determined to pay.  So I’ll be drinking it this week.  Thanks TAC

  

[kaputt]

Still no press conference from the Democrat candidate. 

[herkbum]

Still no press conference from the Democrat candidate. 

And she declined a debate


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