The Next President is...

[Biff_T]

1 hour ago, nsplayr said:

2. Oh no, the black preacher from Ebenezer Baptist is getting political and I don't like it...when has that happened before? 🧐 White people may not feel comfortable with some of the messages on race and politics being preached in Black churches (and vice versa FWIW), also breaking news, the water is wet.

I grew up Catholic (I'm a mick bastard).  I never once heard race brought up at mass.  Never.    

Can a Priest (preacher for non catholics) get away with saying stop worshiping blackness in 2022?  When do black people stop getting a racism pass?   

If we paid reparations, would the black population be happy?  If we give them their 40 acres and a mule?  

We have all been made painfully aware for the sins of our fathers.  How far back do I get to blame others for crimes against my family.  I'd like to blame England for forcing my family from Ireland during 1870 (actual year most of my family came over) due to starvation.   Who can I blame.  Maybe this is why my family is full of drug abuse and alcoholism?

Get over your race.  We don't get to choose that (as of today).  We're all stuck here together for some magical reason in the USA.  The sooner we quit making things about race, the better.   

I have a complete disdain for slavery.  I find it very difficult to imagine humans doing that to others.  Telling your followers that whiteness is the reason for your problems is a lame excuse to remove responsibility from your actions.   

 

Edited December 11, 2022 by Biff_T
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[nsplayr]

53 minutes ago, Biff_T said:

How far back do I get to blame others for crimes against my family.  I'd like to blame England for forcing my family from Ireland during 1870 (actual year most of my family came over) due to starvation.   Who can I blame.  Maybe this is why my family is full of drug abuse and alcoholism?

I’m also largely Scottish with some Irish thrown in and Catholic…so I’m surprised you are unsure who you can blame for your family’s plight. The British! You can and absolutely should still blame them. Screw King Charles the Turd and his whole wanker family. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪

This is also a classic American view that the Founding Fathers would 100% endorse 🇺🇸

Edited December 11, 2022 by nsplayr

[FLEA]

16 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

I’m also largely Scottish with some Irish thrown in and Catholic…so I’m surprised you are unsure who you can blame for your family’s plight. The British! You can and absolutely should still blame them. Screw King Charles the Turd and his whole wanker family. 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🇮🇪

This is also a classic American view that the Founding Fathers would 100% endorse 🇺🇸

I 100% endorse this. We do not attribute enough responsibility of our country's history with slavery/racism to the British. That was not a system we instituted. It was a system they did, particularly one ultra powerful family did, to benefit their wealth and empire. They really should assume and take responsibility for the majority of the blame. 

[Biff_T]

Im not blaming anyone for any misfortune my family has encountered in the past.   Blaming them doesn't help make my life any better.   Actions that I personally take have more impact on my well being than what the English did over 150 years ago.   We as Americans need to act like we're all on the same team.   Nobody cares what we look like in most of the world.  We're all called Americans.  That's what we are now whether people want to be or not.  Real Africans talk much shit about African Americans as the Irish talk about Irish Americans.   The rest of the world calls us Americans.  Not Mexican Americans, Irish Americans, Italian Ameicans or African Americans, simply Americans.   

We either get on board or it fails.  

[ClearedHot]

18 hours ago, nsplayr said:

That's the full quote, referencing Matthew 6:24, and I would tend to agree. Unfortunate that he would choose to pick out "the military" rather than just "your job/career" but he's the preacher and I'm not, let him cook.

"Unfortunate"...When a U.S. senator hols that view of the military...sorry I won't just let him cook.

18 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Oh no, the black preacher from Ebenezer Baptist is getting political and I don't like it...when has that happened before? 🧐 White people may not feel comfortable with some of the messages on race and politics being preached in Black churches (and vice versa FWIW), also breaking news, the water is wet.

Sorry bro but racism is NEVER ok. 

[SpeedOfHeat]

 

This has got to be the most pathetic thing I think I've ever seen:

[Sim]

8 minutes ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

pathetic thing I think I've ever seen:

It was cringe for sure. But all 45,000 was sold in 12 hours. That's $4,445,000...

[Biff_T]

1 hour ago, Sim said:

It was cringe for sure. But all 45,000 was sold in 12 hours. That's $4,445,000...

45,000 dumbasses.

Anyone who buys a fckng computer image is a borderline retard.

He reminds me of a snake oil salesman in that video.

The last two presidents have been ridiculous.   Freaking clown show.  Trump did some good things but he's a douche. I'm still trying to figure out what Biden is doing (so is Biden)?  He should be in a nursing home.

Let's get someone better to lead our country.  I wouldn't let Trump or Biden run the snackbar.   We need real leaders.   

 

 

[GrndPndr]

Trump's only hope was going to be rational behavior until the election.  But, he has doubled-down on the clown (sorry).

Defensive downward spiral?

We should (for fun) be thinking up silly/jackass things he can do over the next couple of years to further distance people.  I'll start:

A new superhero movie franchise, starring D. Trump.  What will his superpowers be like?  How many does he save, how many must die?

Anyway, you get the idea - I've finally had it.

 

[nsplayr]

[uhhello]

1 hour ago, GrndPndr said:

Trump's only hope was going to be rational behavior until the election.  But, he has doubled-down on the clown (sorry).

Defensive downward spiral?

We should (for fun) be thinking up silly/jackass things he can do over the next couple of years to further distance people.  I'll start:

A new superhero movie franchise, starring D. Trump.  What will his superpowers be like?  How many does he save, how many must die?

Anyway, you get the idea - I've finally had it.

 

He's cashing in.  He'll milk his followers until they are broke. 

[Day Man]

1 hour ago, uhhello said:

He's cashing in.  He'll milk his followers until they are broke. 

about that...

 

[Pooter]

If republicans were coordinated, or proactive, or serious in any way about winning an election ever again.. this would be the moment to strongly distance from trump.  

[herkbum]

If republicans were coordinated, or proactive, or serious in any way about winning an election ever again.. this would be the moment to strongly distance from trump.  

And the current RNC Chairwoman


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[filthy_liar]

I don't understand the RNC.  I'm trying really hard to not go down the deep state hole because there are a shitload of crazies in that space.  But a small child could figure out that Trump is not good for the Republican party.  Something is wrong.  We have the guy - DeSantis.  It couldn't be more obvious.  But now we're going to have to wring our hands until the primaries to see what Trump is going to do.  The RNC is currently a bunch of incompetent idiots, or the whole construct has been rigged.  Something is wrong.

[Prozac]

9 hours ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

 

This has got to be the most pathetic thing I think I've ever seen:

WTF is happening? Am I dreaming? Is this real? Tell me this is a deep fake, or cgi, or something. Holyfuckingshitballs, this guy used to be president? Guys, if you supported this yahoo at any point, tell me you see it now. Please tell me you see how objectively bad it was to elect the online steak salesman who has to have his name in gold on everything he touches. That doesn’t mean you have to like Hillary or Joe or anyone else who doesn’t support your views. But, c’mon. Time to admit that DJT was not, is not, and never will be representative of what we stand for as a country. Please, please, please, derail the Trump train forever and swear off candidates like him (looking at you MTG & Lauren Boebert). 

[FLEA]

12 minutes ago, Prozac said:

WTF is happening? Am I dreaming? Is this real? Tell me this is a deep fake, or cgi, or something. Holyfuckingshitballs, this guy used to be president? Guys, if you supported this yahoo at any point, tell me you see it now. Please tell me you see how objectively bad it was to elect the online steak salesman who has to have his name in gold on everything he touches. That doesn’t mean you have to like Hillary or Joe or anyone else who doesn’t support your views. But, c’mon. Time to admit that DJT was not, is not, and never will be representative of what we stand for as a country. Please, please, please, derail the Trump train forever and swear off candidates like him (looking at you MTG & Lauren Boebert). 

I mean.... I want to say he's stupid.... but.....

https://www.coindesk.com/web3/2022/12/16/trump-nft-collection-sells-out-price-surges/

[nsplayr]

 

[Prozac]

28 minutes ago, FLEA said:

I mean.... I want to say he's stupid.... but.....

https://www.coindesk.com/web3/2022/12/16/trump-nft-collection-sells-out-price-surges/

The Donald is a lot of things. Stupid probably isn’t one of them. The fact his NFT garbage pail kids sold out probably says more about his die hard supporters & the direction they’re trying to pull the country in than anything else. 

[Day Man]

you think the guy who wanted to nuke a hurricane knows what an NFT is? some millennial lackey on his staff came up with the idea and the perpetual grifter/delusional narcissist couldn't say no.

[Sim]

FBI, DHS, U.S. state agencies, and government-affiliated think tanks colluded with Twitter to censor content on the platform.

 

But ex POTUS is what we are talking about..... 

[SpeedOfHeat]

18 minutes ago, Prozac said:

The Donald is a lot of things. Stupid probably isn’t one of them.

Comments like these blow my mind. 

"Stupid probably isn't one of them." 

?????

Have you ever heard him speak?

'Stupid' is his most obvious and immediately identifiable trait. (.... granted, it's neck-and-neck with 'narcisist,' 'ego maniac,' and 'petulant child.')

The people who don't think he's stupid are either a) genuinely too stupid themselves to recognize stupidity in others, or b) eager to pretend he's something he's not.

The latter are the same crowd that buy flags, t-shirts, and these digital cards depicting him as some sort of fantasy ripped Adonis superhero, when in reality he's an obese, disheveled 76-year old with man tits and a combover.

[GrndPndr]

18 minutes ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

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Have you ever heard him speak?

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I have heard him speak (in person), and he is a good speaker.  If you want to see how sharp his skills are on that, just Youtube his speech before congress, and the number of people he was able to call out by name and compliment them.  Our present POTUS is so far below Trump's skill level, no comparison can be made.

Of course, he has actually said some jackass things, and I'm sure that's what you're referring to.  None the less, he is not stupid.

[SpeedOfHeat]

58 minutes ago, GrndPndr said:

I have heard him speak (in person), and he is a good speaker.  If you want to see how sharp his skills are on that, just Youtube his speech before congress, and the number of people he was able to call out by name and compliment them.  Our present POTUS is so far below Trump's skill level, no comparison can be made.

Of course, he has actually said some jackass things, and I'm sure that's what you're referring to.  None the less, he is not stupid.

When I asked, rhetorically, if he had heard him speak, I wasn't implying that there was a problem with Trump's public speaking abilities.  I'm referring to what he says, and how what he says is consistently devoid of intelligent thought, wisdom, or critical thinking.

His speeches before Congress were all scripted and he read off a teleprompter (like every president).  Again, I don't care about his speaking (or sharpness in recalling names.  ...Unlike our current POTUS, I agree, Trump doesn't appear to suffer from dementia.) 

I'm talking about what's in (or not in) his mind, which one can reasonably assess by listening to what someone says.  Especially when you listen to them regularly over the course of years.

There's a huge difference between teleprompter Trump and real Trump.  The things he said at his MAGA rallies, the answers he gave to interviewers, and the things he said at debates.....that's the real Trump.  Having watched a fair amount of each of those over the years, I find it astounding that anyone could conclude that he's smart, when nothing he ever says demonstrates that, or even suggests it. 

But it is what it is.  As I said above, I firmly believe it's either a) or b).

*And I agree that the current POTUS is a total disaster.  That said, he's not the one selling playing cards of himself with cartoon 6-pack abs and a cape, or dressed as an astronaut. Lol.

Edited December 17, 2022 by SpeedOfHeat

[FLEA]

42 minutes ago, SpeedOfHeat said:

When I asked, rhetorically, if he had heard him speak, I wasn't implying that there was a problem with Trump's public speaking abilities.  I'm referring to what he says, and how what he says is consistently devoid of intelligent thought, wisdom, or critical thinking.

His speeches before Congress were all scripted and he read off a teleprompter (like every president).  Again, I don't care about his speaking (or sharpness in recalling names.  ...Unlike our current POTUS, I agree, Trump doesn't appear to suffer from dementia.) 

I'm talking about what's in (or not in) his mind, which one can reasonably assess by listening to what someone says.  Especially when you listen to them regularly over the course of years.

There's a huge difference between teleprompter Trump and real Trump.  The things he said at his MAGA rallies, the answers he gave to interviewers, and the things he said at debates.....that's the real Trump.  Having watched a fair amount of each of those over the years, I find it astounding that anyone could conclude that he's smart, when nothing he ever says demonstrates that, or even suggests it. 

But it is what it is.  As I said above, I firmly believe it's either a) or b).

*And I agree that the current POTUS is a total disaster.  That said, he's not the one selling playing cards of himself with cartoon 6-pack abs and a cape, or dressed as an astronaut. Lol.

You think its stupid because you cant see the rational in it. (admittedly I cant either) You're projecting yourself and thinking "if I said that stuff it would be career suicide/awful/ruin my life/friends..." whatever....

The problem is, for all of this "stupid" stuff he says..... he keeps gaining track records of success, which implies he sees something we don't to all of this stupid crap he is saying. 

So if we are purely evaluating his competence, we have to 1.) identify what his goals are and 2.) track his record of success. So far I'm not sure anyone really knows what #1 is. So to say he is actually stupid is only ever a guess at this point. Because the man successfully won a presidency, has even now, a massive following, and continues to make millions of dollars with weird gimmicky business models. If we are so smart why are we not doing the same?