hatedont Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Air Force puts money where its mouth is to retain airmen https://federalnewsradio.com/air-force/2017/05/air-force-puts-money-where-its-mouth-is-to-retain-airmen/ Lightening the load As a means of easing the burden of additional duties on airmen, the service plans on increasing its commander support staff (CSS) by 1,600 over the next five years. About 200 will be added in 2018, Martin said. That includes 170 officers, 469 enlisted airmen and 961 civilians. Those employees will be distributed to the nearly 2,000 active-duty squadrons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guardian Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Except they won't promote us. Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bender Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Yeah...in line with your expectations of the world I hope. Disappointing, yes...surprising, not so much. Buck up Azimuth! We'll all be dead soon enough. Bendy Sent from my iPhone using Baseops Network Forums Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 53 minutes ago, hatedont said: Air Force puts money where its mouth is to retain airmen https://federalnewsradio.com/air-force/2017/05/air-force-puts-money-where-its-mouth-is-to-retain-airmen/ Lightening the load As a means of easing the burden of additional duties on airmen, the service plans on increasing its commander support staff (CSS) by 1,600 over the next five years. About 200 will be added in 2018, Martin said. That includes 170 officers, 469 enlisted airmen and 961 civilians. Those employees will be distributed to the nearly 2,000 active-duty squadrons. We don't need them in 5 years, we needed them yesterday. Also it's the same thing we've heard about CSSs coming back for years now, I'm not going to hold my breath for something years down the road. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedont Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 3 minutes ago, Fuzz said: We don't need them in 5 years, we needed them yesterday. Also it's the same thing we've heard about CSSs coming back for years now, I'm not going to hold my breath for something years down the road. I'm hearing a violin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nunya Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 1 hour ago, hatedont said: As a means of easing the burden of additional duties on airmen, the service plans on increasing its commander support staff (CSS) by 1,600 over the next five years. About 200 will be added in 2018, Martin said. That includes 170 officers, 469 enlisted airmen and 961 civilians. Those employees will be distributed to the nearly 2,000 active-duty squadrons. C for effort. I'm just not convinced 0.8 bodies per squadron will do much. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyFlightSuit Posted May 25, 2017 Share Posted May 25, 2017 Guys guess what we fixed the problem... in several years... no seriously we mean it... please don't go... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HU&W Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, nunya said: C for effort. I'm just not convinced 0.8 bodies per squadron will do much. True. My bet is they put all of them in a single consolidated CSS to maximize efficiency and unity of effort. They'll probably locate the consolidated CSS in San Antonio. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookieRookie Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The Reserves are a little behind the power curve. We're currently getting manpower studies/updated UMDs that move the CSSs to the group level. Oh and SQ/CCs lost their secretaries! Wahoo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bode Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 The Reserves are a little behind the power curve. We're currently getting manpower studies/updated UMDs that move the CSSs to the group level. Oh and SQ/CCs lost their secretaries! Wahoo!Pretty sure active duty has already said man power study. We moved CSSs to the group back in 06 at Spangdahlem as a test. Of course though we probably have no record of it either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperWSO Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 41 minutes ago, Lstcause257 said: Of course though we probably have no record of it either. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk No shit, the CSS was probably the records manager, maintainer of file plans! The history of the test was rejected at the Group for formatting and punctuation errors in paragraph one and returned to the SQ CSS after they left town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 8 hours ago, Azimuth said: I think the mods should move this to the WTF thread. At least everyone at Boeing has the option to quit, and Rhat can't fire them without cause. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dream big Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 9 hours ago, Azimuth said: Oh holy hell. Little Rock AFB's morale is still recovering from this piece of work. He is everything that was toxic in the AF. I remember IPs were terrified of air dropping because a bad bomb board would be preceded with a trip to ole Rhat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) Azimuth, you everyone beer for posting that picture. Good riddance! You might as well have posted a picture of this guy. (DISCLAIMER: If you were in the 41 AS in the 2008-2009 time frame, don't click that link, you already know who it is.) FF Edited May 26, 2017 by FourFans130 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, FourFans130 said: Azimuth, you everyone beer for posting that picture. Good riddance! You might as well have posted a picture of this guy. (DISCLAIMER: If you were in the 41 AS in the 2008-2009 time frame, don't click that link, you already know who it is.) FF Rat was my CC twice. He's by far the worst. Only guy that might come close is Ole 777. Edited May 26, 2017 by Azimuth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FourFans Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 33 minutes ago, Azimuth said: Rat was my CC twice. He's by far the worst. Only guy that might come close is Ole 777. Ouch! Well done hanging tough through that! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Posted so you can "friend him"... https://www.facebook.com/colonelpatrickjrhatigan Of course, once you do, drop him a note and say hi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedont Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Azimuth said: Rat was my CC twice. He's by far the worst. Only guy that might come close is Ole 777. FYI:My years might be a little off. I wasn't in the 40 AS. But I heard their CC from 2009-11 was a piece of work. The Gp/CC didn't hesitate to remove her and there wasn't any PC about removing a female. She dug her grave on a unit deployment. Never seen a CC removed so fast. Edited May 26, 2017 by hatedont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polcat Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, hatedont said: FYI:My years might be a little off. I wasn't in the 40 AS. But I heard their CC from 2009-11 was a piece of work. The The Gp/CC didn't hesitate to remove her and there wasn't any PC about removing a female. She dug her grave on a unit deployment. Never seen a CC removed so fast. That was a very interesting time in the 317th. The 40th was blessed with a great commander after her. He was our deployed DO and our saving grace in the desert but was pulled home early because of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedont Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 3 minutes ago, polcat said: That was a very interesting time in the 317th. The 40th was blessed with a great commander after her. He was our deployed DO and our saving grace in the desert but was pulled home early because of this. Someone told me it was over a closet in the squadron the GP/CC wanted cleaned out. Making dumb decisions while deployed seemed more or less like the truth. What was the low down? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 Just going to put this here for your amusement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LookieRookie Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Weezer said: Just going to put this here for your amusement. Unless it's on a contract counter signed by AFPC/CC I don't believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weezer Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 4 minutes ago, LookieRookie said: Unless it's on a contract counter signed by AFPC/CC I don't believe it. Not sure I would trust it even then: was on a 365 back in the early days with about 120 others. AFPC/CC at the time came out and was "so impressed," that he personally guaranteed we could have any assignment we wanted afterwards. He went so far as to say he would move people out of jobs to get us where we wanted to go. Needless to say, he issued a correction a few weeks later to say that AFPC would "do their best" to get us where we wanted to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
17D_guy Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 1 hour ago, Weezer said: Just going to put this here for your amusement. "Officers and enlisted airmen who volunteer for an extended 365-day deployment can, if eligible, apply for either an advanced assignment or a two-year deferment from a permanent change of station." Love that caveat. Of course, this won't mention the promotion impacts since now we can't move you to that GO exec job, or staff somewhere, to "groom you." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatedont Posted May 26, 2017 Share Posted May 26, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, 17D_guy said: "Officers and enlisted airmen who volunteer for an extended 365-day deployment can, if eligible, apply for either an advanced assignment or a two-year deferment from a permanent change of station." Love that caveat. Of course, this won't mention the promotion impacts since now we can't move you to that GO exec job, or staff somewhere, to "groom you." Don't fall for it. I was BTZ to SrA and made SSgt my first time. I pinned on SSgt a few weeks after leaving Korea. Tons of awards under my belt. After Korea you are supposed to receive your assignment of preference. I listed all the options overseas I could think of guys. They came back with Beale. My CMSgt and everyone else was like Nooooo... don't go there. This was back in 2000 when Lincoln and Roseville were probably small communities if they existed at all. I tell assignments to go kick rocks, so they come back with San Antonio. Really? I had lived in Texas for most of my whole damn life. It didn't matter because I had received my SOAR scholarship to AFROTC a few weeks before. They cut me orders from Osan direct to AFROTC to be a cadet. But guess what my ex girlfriend at the time left Korea for an assignment in Hawaii. DO NOT TRUST AFPC! You will go from a 365 to Cannon AFB or Grand Damn Forks. I will tell everyone under me don't be the sacrificial lamb. Edited May 26, 2017 by hatedont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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