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Buddy, the idea that peace is attained and maintained through abstention from kinetic acts is the most childish view of the world one could possibly have. Peace has never, and will never come from peaceful actions. It always and forever will be the product of extreme violence. And even then, it relies on the good guys (a rare phenomenon in human history) to want peace as the product of their ruthless and thorough dissemination of death. If Trump follows these bombings with the Marines storming the beaches of Iran, I will agree with your shallow suggestion. Until then, just give it a rest with this utopian bullshit, please. Whining like a baby about Trump putting targets on your buddies' backs is especially hilarious when the people he just fucked up had actual targets on the backs of your friends. Or have we become so weak and pathetic that we forget who our actual enemies are, the ones who have been killing us for years?

One of the most ignorant things I’ve read on this forum. Do you think your buddies didn’t already have targets on their backs? They are surrounded by people who hate them and want them dead; people daily searching for opportunities to hurt them. An intelligent use of limited violence makes enemies less confident, less capable, and therefore less likely to attack your buddies. If we start nation building in Iran, I’ll be speaking up against POTUS. However as of this moment, I think what he ordered will make the region safer. Also, well played on the OPSEC!

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Obama - $1.7 billion, including, literally, $400 million in palletized currencies in exchange for U.S. citizens held captive and nuclear behavioral change. Biden - released $6 billion in frozen Iranian assets for more U.S. citizens held captive and nuclear behavioral change. Trump: A different kind of currency delivered for nuclear behavioral change. Which one is more effective and beneficial for U.S. interests?

Look at that. America can still look strong. FA;FO

Lookie lookie, seems I'm not the only one thinking along this line. Posted today: https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2025/06/iran-trump-taco-play/683271/ Quote: President Donald Trump is being pulled toward war in the Middle East by his predator’s eye for a victim’s weakness and his ego’s need to claim the work of others as his own. But since his “unconditional surrender” social-media post on Tuesday, other Trump instincts have asserted themselves: above all, his fear of responsibility. Trump enjoys wielding power. He flinches from accountability. Days ago, Trump seemed to hunger for entry into Israel’s war. A dramatic victory seemed poised to tumble into somebody’s lap. Why not his? But as the hours passed, Trump reconsidered. Instead of acting, he postponed. He said that a decision would come within “two weeks.” Time for diplomacy to work? Perhaps that might be the case in another administration. In this one, as attentive Trump watchers have learned, the “two weeks” promise is a way of shirking a decision altogether, whether on Russia sanctions (deadline lapsed June 11, without action), trade deals (deadline lapsed June 12, without result), or a much-heralded infrastructure program (deadline lapsed May 20, 2017, without action then or ever).

Fake news…the libs on this forum said Trump was bluffing and wouldn’t do anything.

This had been a lot like the oil filter commercial, "Pay me now or you can pay me later." Since 1979 with the takeover of the U.S. Embassy and holding diplomats hostage for 444 days, the bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon killing 200+ U.S. marines plus some French troops, the exporting of IED expertise and materials into Iraq killing and maiming our troops, and funding Hezbollah and Hamas for decades maiming, killing, and kidnapping civilians, Iran has been hostile towards the U.S. Iran has been in the FA mode for a long time and finally we have an administration that introduced them to the FO side of the equation. This has been a long time in the making and the demonstrable Iranian track record is more than enough evidence that allowing them to have the most destructive bomb on the planet would be tragic for humanity.

Powerful and convincing arguments against Trump. One might even say opinions will “tip over” against POTUS, and his administration will capsize after this brutal attack.

This was inevitable A state fueled by petrodollars, exporting and supporting terrorism, tacitly backed at times by Russia and China with the capacity to threaten the stable trade of hydrocarbons and freedom of significant parts of the global commons was/had to be struck. The reestablishment of deterrence, the definition of the new free world, the update of our alliance structures and trading relationships, the extension of friendship and establishment of inroads to the developing world to choose our system versus the Chinese system and the reformation of our military-industrial-technological-intelligence-development system. This is the challenge for the next leaders on deck and at bat now (Vance, Rubio, Cotton).

Shut up hippie.

My senior year she told me that I'd make a great dad one day. I was a bit puzzled but looking back I should have capitalized on that moment.

An opinion from the Atlantic is a lot like gas station sushi and a wise person would not trust it.

Exactly. I expect a big part of the strategy has been "allowing" the political class in Iran to survive specifically so they can choose their own lives over retaliation. But they can't not make threats. That's not how international politics work. They are going to saber rattle, the real question is will they follow through. We'll know soon.

Who picked the Op name?!?

Curious how Iranian response will be impacted by the Israeli HVI campaign against them. It can't be easy adjust strategy, C2 forces & simultaneously worry about assassination.

This!

The real Iran? Biff, don't get excited, it's not about the woman in the picture.

She wasn't great. An Air Force 7 at best. But I'm sure the pics are in an OSI file somewhere if you want to try and FOIA them 😂🤣

Classic deflection. I really don't give a shit about what someone who hasn't been in the political scene since 2016 has to say. I care that our President who ran on the platform of no new wars/peace and currently has that power/authority just put targets on the backs of all my buddies still in the shit hole called the middle east. P.S. Full context of this quote: “If Iran were to launch a nuclear attack on Israel what would our response be?” Clinton said. “I want the Iranians to know that if I’m the president, we will attack Iran. That’s what we will do. There is no safe haven.”

You just don't realize all the peace this action is going to bring

I didn't say a word. Or was that directed at the President?

That is some solid work. SMH. Pics of the student or it didn’t happen.

Preschool…

9th grade, my art teacher was wearing a sun dress and played a movie. She was between me and lamp from the projector. I’m 64 and I can still see it in my mind. Only day of school I ever learned anything

ooooooooh shit.

I'd like to know where all these dream makers were when I was in HS....

not fair

Probably wouldn't be hard for one of the 17Xs to build an entire ADS-B strike package and send it east. Or build two and send one east and one west. Watch the twitterverse explode.