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Brabdawg in the hizzouse! The conventional military might of Iran for the last four decades - besides a few days of this conflict - has been countered by a couple formations of fighters, a few patriots, and the iron dome. I bet you’d argue the Houthis are a regional power because they can launch ballistic missiles. Also are you a cool guy with a security clearance 😎?

Any word on AFSOC dropping? Seems unsustainable to not be getting new copilots for so long

This is a wildly inaccurate statement and demonstrates you literally have no clue what you’re talking about, at the unclass level, and certainly at the classified level. The only thing you got right in your post is they are an economic power, that’s true.

This seems a bit overzealous - https://www.regulations.gov/document/OPM-2025-0206-0049?ftag=MSF0951a18 The meat - "OPM is collecting service use and cost data from FEHB and PSHB Carriers, including medical claims, pharmacy claims, encounter data, and provider data. This data will enable OPM to oversee health benefits programs and ensure they provide competitive, quality, and affordable plans. OPM requires Carriers to report necessary information and permit audits and examinations to manage the FEHB Program effectively. The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA) Privacy Rule permits covered entities, including carriers, to disclose protected health information (PHI), including service use and cost data, to health oversight agencies, such as OPM, for oversight activities authorized under 45 CFR 165.512(d)(1)." I'd rather not give (if I was a GS) OPM my pharmacy claims, encounter and provider data. What the fuck does my docs notes have to do with "competitive, quality and affordable plans."

Gotta zoom in really far on the doll’s ass to see it:

a perspective a lot of y'all could really benefit from listening too.

For a previous O-6, you still don’t understand DIME. Destroying a power militarily that was never a military power does not achieve strategic goals. They are an emboldened economic power and that’s it.

Been talk that USMC loves the A-10 and it would be a good fit with their KC130's.

Anybody who thinks you can make with them is Charlie Brown because Iran is Lucy with the football

Mounted in the UARRSI receptacle. Had to stick out a ways so the pilots could see it.

What makes you think it doesn't?!?

Absolutely! Based on the previous two Democratic administrations, she would have either a) buried her head even deeper into the sand and/or b) sent pallets of money to them in hopes to buy their cooperation. If you think she would have been smarter, please enlighten us all!

Do you mean like what the Brits had? Or did we actually test an adapter to the UARRSI to allow probe and drogue?

reached out to AFPC last week. They said it's tapered down alot. They have no idea if more selects will be needed. However, who knows.. two weeks ago a bunch of studs went to MFS. There's a chance someone medically DQs. Long shot tho.

Peace deal:

We're basically just arguing philosophy. Realpolitik vs idealistic liberalism. So we're not going to agree because you fundamentally believe in a utopian outcome, if we just get it right this time. I don't. Nonsense. Are we enemies with Japan? Germany? The American South? This is uniquely funny with Iran because if we are creating so many enemies amongst the Iranian people, why is the regime doing everything in their power to keep them silent? Curious. Also funny that you say "we let the regime slaughter thousands," yet now you are claiming we are making it worse by... killing the regime. Which is it? Is you true complaint that we didn't attack earlier? Your neighbor analogy is stupid. If he killed my daughter and tried to rape my wife, you bet your ass I'd kill him. And if his family has a problem with that, I'd kill them too. I already addressed this. Where you see policy failure, I don't. Which specific policies are failing again? Tariffs were supposed to collapse the world economy. They haven't. We were told that stopping illegal immigration would make groceries quadruple in price. They haven't. Hell, my whole life the Doomsday scenario for the oil markets has been the closing of the strait of Hormuz. Yet it's only doubled? Oil isn't even remotely close to the inflation adjusted highs of previous decades. What gives? Keeping trans athletes out of girls sports and bathrooms? Weren't there supposed to be mass suicides? Nope. I'm hoping for a catastrophic stock market collapse and an entire restructuring of the domestic economy. But in the meantime, the stock market is near all-time highs, and unemployment is still near all-time lows. So I asked you very specifically, what policies are failing, and how? You define an ally as someone who says they are an ally. I define them based on their acts. The European Union has taken economic advantage of us for a long time. You can call that retribution for the advantages we had following world war II. I called that ancient history. Just because I don't consider them in the enemy doesn't mean they are by default an ally. We haven't had shared goals in a while. Talking about what NATO was during the Cold war is not the same as talking about what NATO is now, over 30 years later. Comparing the per capita lives lost during the war on terror is interesting yet completely irrelevant. Unless you can find me part of the NATO charter that discusses how many lives each country is supposed to put up. It does not matter what they have done in the past. What matters is what they are doing now. And Ukraine proves unequivocally that they are not remotely pulling their weight. Can you honestly say with a straight face that if Western Europe were attacked today, they would have anything to offer? I worked with them, they could barely put together enough planes to practice refuelling. The "alienated" allies are putting more into defense thanks to Trump than they have in decades. I'd rather they be upset and lethal than harmless dependants. In the first few words you already miss the point. The "economic benefit" is only part of the picture. Is the middle class family of four better off with iPhones, large TVs, and fancier vehicle options if both parents must work out of necessity, and they will rent forever because a home is out of their reach? Are we better off having power pharmaceutical supply chain almost entirely at the whims of the Chinese? Even the manufacturing we retained, such as automobiles, we're ground to a halt because we don't even have the capacity to make 27+ nanometer chips, ancient technology by today's standards. Just because something was good yesterday doesn't mean it's good tomorrow. Opioids reduced the physical pain of millions of Americans over the past couple decades. Now we have a crippling addiction problem because of it. And why? Who decided that pain was bad? Who decided that pain was so bad it was worth any risk to mediate it? Do you think it's a good thing that our rare Earth mineral supply chain is functionally entirely in the hands of the Chinese? Please explain how we are better off for that. Poetry is not policy. Are the rest of your political opinions informed by poetry written for a fundraiser? I'm confused. When I say "Politicians aren't respectable war veterans anymore, they're profit-seeking sociopaths," and you point out that Trump is a draft-dodging sociopath, that just sounds like you're agreeing with me. And once again, arguing a point I never made. "Our government is better off with a spectrum of backgrounds and experience." Agreed, of the many thousands and thousands of people that make up our government, a spectrum of backgrounds is desirable. For the very specific position of the president, military experience is an invaluable ingredient to the literal head of the military. I watched Trump do multiple multi-hour unscripted interviews. Harris could barely make it through 5-minute softball session with friendly interviewers without spouting literal gibberish. Why do you think Kamala couldn't do a single podcast? Joe Rogan is literally a Bernie Bro. I never said Trump was telling the truth or demonstrating some sort of incredible knowledge base. He knows very little. But it's laughable to try to compare Biden and Harris, who even while hiding from any sort of press scrutiny couldn't remain coherent for longer than 2 or 3 minutes, with Trump who subjected himself to every single microphone that he could get in front of, friendly or foe. You guys are so desperately trying to frame us as Trump sycophants, justifying away his every flaw and failing. We're not. We're simply pointing out that of the options we were given, this was the best shit sandwich, and objectively better for our policy preferences. Obviously you guys are just smarter and more capable and more honorable than everyone else here and in Washington DC. Great. I can't wait to see your names on the ballot. It's clear that you are the first people to realize that honor and truth and cooperation are valuable components of domestic and foreign policy. It should be pretty easy then for you to make your pitch to the American People and get voted in. We need you! I'm sure they'll vote for the "better way" as soon as you, the first ever to put it in words, share your genius with the rest of us. Surely the Russians and Chinese and Iranians and Venezuelans will set aside their violent ambitions as soon as they hear the siren-sing of your logic and poise. Or maybe, just maybe, that's not how the world works.

….and they closed the Strait again due to Israel’s continued bombings.

-No tax on tips is solid -I like how angry he makes blue haired liberals -I generally like his border hawkishness but in execution it’s been kinda a mess -his Supreme Court picks have been generally decent There. Now can we talk about how this war is a shitshow? Or are we just gonna deflect to Chicago crime rates or me being “triggered” or TDS again? Explain to me how we are in a materially better position right now with this 10 point ceasefire proposal, than we were two months ago before all this went down. And I’m talking strategically. I know we blew up a bunch of their stuff. We’re great at that. Cool. Explain to me how Iran is weaker in terms of regional influence today than they were last year. Because it seems like they just got us to tentatively agree to a deal that is better than anything they’ve had in decades.

saving private ryan gripes go up - Google Search Yes, it's fiction but I think it encompasses the difference in viewpoints between then and now. One undertone is the question of why so much is being risked all for one man. Not saying one way or another just giving the example and certainly will spark debate. Not that it's difficult to do on BO. LOL

I will never discuss this with you in "good faith" because you can't admit a single good thing Trump has done. The vast majority of us have pointed out the good and the and said we don't like him a as person. Its that simple...you hate him....we get, it is pointless to even attempt to discuss issues with you.

Enemies: War only creates further resentment and enemies. It's not going to get rid of them. How many more Iranians hate us now than 2 months ago because we've killed their friends, fathers, and children? We let the regime slaughter thousands who might have been more aligned with us 2 months ago. We're supposed to be improving and learning from the past. I don't want our country to be an imperialist nation. It is insane you believe deals should only occur if we have no other choice. War should never be the first choice. The consequences are irreversible and frankly abhorrent. We are supposed to be better than that. Do you also go over to your neighbors when his dog shits on your lawn, shoot him and take his shit because you own a gun and he doesn't? Makes us no better than the Russians. No better than an animal. Policies: Most of us arguing against this have argued nothing but facts and policies. To be met with TDS or TFS whatever you want to call it. We're writing paragraphs regarding policy and the abject failure of this admin as a whole and getting 2 sentence strawman or what about X replies. Also regarding admin consistency with what we're doing there I posted the evidence 2 pages back of the daily flip flopping. Allies: Our allies are still there. They're allientated because we've elected Trump twice. Because we've proven to be unreliable. Because we've threatened to invade them multiple times in the last year. Because the values of strength, military might, and taking what we want over diplomacy, partnership, and stability align us close with Russia than the EU. NATO: Is a defensive alliance and yes it was and is quite literally America's European insurance policy against the Soviet Union/Russia. We are the only country that's enacted it, everyone answered, and our allies all paid the price alongside us. Per capita many of them paid a higher price than we did. There is 0 proof for your claim "NATO isn't an alliance anymore, it's a European insurance policy." You're parroting a talking point and fundamentally lack an understanding of what nato is and ever was. Free-trade: The economic benefit of free trade vastly outweighs the negative loss of domestic manufacturing. We still retained high level skilled manufacturing and a lot of the rest ties nations to us in a manner which is a plus for diplomacy. If Taiwan wasn't the primary source for high end chips globally or China didn't risk crippling economic trade sanctions they'd be much more inclined to make military moves. Trade has kept the developed world significantly more peaceful than the past. Immigrants/middle class: Not the thread to discuss or begin to cover that rant. I'll just say go visit the base of the statue of liberty and read Emma Lazarus' poem “The New Colossus” laid there. Politicians: "Politicians aren't respectable war veterans anymore, they're profit-seeking sociopaths." Firstly Trump fits this quote perfectly. He's a draft dodger and has utilized his second term to 2x or more his personal wealth and appointed a cabinet full of folks doing the same. Secondly, being a war vet doesn't make magically make you more respectable or better than anyone else. How you carry yourself, treat others, your words and actions do that. Our government is better off with a spectrum of backgrounds and experience. Options: "could have had a moron who couldn't string 10 words together" Lol I'm sorry what. Have you listened or read anything trump puts out himself? Neither is the orator Obama was, but it's legitimate delusion to believe Trump is a better orator than Harris.

Ah the tried and true method of this thread. Ignore the entire substantive point by point reply and argue a selected portion with a "zinger" as if it trumps everything. Remind me @HeloDude which side "don’t want to discuss in good faith." How was their AF, navy, or missile capability a realatic and substantive threat to the US before? Especially seeing as we could remove it at anytime. The reality is you're creating a false comparison as in pre and post conflict cases the threat wasn't substantive based on empirical evidence of the results you're claiming we've achieved in only 30 days. Meanwhile in return for removing the alleged threat we've lost the following: Unquestionable control of the straight to Iran causing short and long term global economic impacts and major economic leverage. Regional soft power as we can't protect our allies from drones an missiles. Diplomatic credability in any future negotiation not just with Iran but any nation. Sanctions on Russia and Iranian oil. A massive amount of ordinance and numerous assets that will take years to replace. Alienated our closest European allies and frustrated our middle Eastern ones to back Israel. 13 dead americans, 200+ injured. TBD on the peace plan.