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This is your guys’ actual problem. It’s legitimate delusion. And you project it on others. You say they’re the delusional ones so you don’t have to embrace the reality you are supporting right now explicitly. But this quote right here describes your and many others “delusional syndrome.” You have to understand we aren’t even that mad at the president. Politicians do politician things. But it is your choice to determine if you have any specific morality in how you interpret those actions. Im disappointed in people like you simplifying complex arguments and everything into us vs them. And the ends justify any means is the antithesis of Christianity.
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You’ve said this a lot now, I think you think you’re on to something. Unfortunately you’re not. What was total inflation? Estimated at about 20%. Sounds bad. But how much did the stock market go up under Biden? Oh. 40-55%, depending on index. Shit. Wages rose 19-20%, which resulted in them staying about stagnant in real terms. Home prices rose 20-35% as well, so most gained at historical rates. Ironically, Biden was probably great for moderate to high income people like those on here. Those that didn’t gain bigly are those that don’t have investments. Edit: and of course, inflation corresponds with a reduction in the true value of debt such as the national debt. J pow was how we recovered from COVID like ballers. I agree that later stimuli were bad policy, but they were mitigated by great Fed policy.
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Brabdawg in the hizzouse! The conventional military might of Iran for the last four decades - besides a few days of this conflict - has been countered by a couple formations of fighters, a few patriots, and the iron dome. I bet you’d argue the Houthis are a regional power because they can launch ballistic missiles. Also are you a cool guy with a security clearance 😎?
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https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/trump-iran-deadline-israel-hormuz-april-7.amp So we won, right? Just have to negotiate around this concept that: Explicitly allows Iranian enrichment Explicitly gives Iran control of the Strait Removes US military from Middle East Lifting of all sanctions Even Fox is struggling on how to spin this. But we all know they’ll find a way, and the 30% will be happy.- The Iran thread
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What you don’t seem to get - and most don’t - Iran is not a military power. It hasn’t been a military power. It’s not an air power. It’s not a naval power. It basically has no way to project real power outside its borders. It’s not doing it now, really, it hasn’t don’t it effectively before. It hasn’t been a military power for many decades. Iran is an economic power. It is a huge oil and LNG supplier. And it now has realized just how much economic power it has via control of a strait that they weren’t really sure they could control - but now they know damn well they can just load up on quadcopters and remote control jet skis the next time there is a cease fire to be adequately able to control the world economy again. You don’t control economic power with military power. You must use diplomacy and influence. Your stated goals cannot happen with the military, because even if we nuke Tehran, a few dudes can throw some mines in an area that demands international cooperation to be a real place to go and entirely negate any military victory. Your desires aren’t achievable in the way you imagine them. And if we agree to a peace plan in which they turn the Strait of Hormuz into another Panama Canal, Iran has the negotiating room of a superpower.- The Iran thread
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Bringing this back to reality and not just listening to ad hominem about how everyone who doesn’t support Israeli actions is an anti-Semite (CH), any means are justified as long as the ends are better (LR), and how we’re all fat virgins (Bdawg). My prediction: in two hours, the greatest deal ever is announced. Strikes are postponed. Iran denies. Ships still don’t move.- The Iran thread
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Ah, the famous ends justify any means. By the way, we’re past just ramblings and posts. Many in 1944 Germany used the exact same “logic” to argue that only Hitler fixed the German economy. Only Hitler restored national pride. Only Hitler stood up to foreign powers. Sure, he lied constantly, said insane things, and did horrible stuff - but every leader does bad things. Don’t waste time listing his failures; all leaders fail. If you don’t like him, you’ll focus on his rhetoric. But for people getting what they want, his misgivings are just the cost of politics. You probably won’t get the metaphors here. That’s okay, you’re part of the 30%. It’s not about Trump being Hitler. It’s about your logic train falling apart and your statements being extremely fallible.
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