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9 months… doing nothing before FTU… what a waste when they could look around, shake the money tree, look in the couch cushions and use that time productively with a reasonable amount of money 1 - multi engine course probably $25,000 with all travel and training and that’s very conservative Figure 3 weeks for that, just call it a month. 2 - Type course, figure 1.5 months for that, probably $50,000 every thing said and done. One month King Air or Citation jet, experience and prep for transport category aircraft. 3 - Tailwheel & STOL training, figure 3 weeks for tailwheel plus some time building then 3 weeks for STOL, round up and make that 2 months. 4 - Plan on their water and SERE training plus M4, M9, tactical driving, etc… figure that at 2 months 5 - International experience last program. Lease multi engine Diamond DA62s, 1.5 months flying in Europe, 20 flights. The golden apple to work for… 8 months accounted for with 1 month for leeway Make UPT Great Again Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I highly doubt anyone at the congressional level has any SA on the situation. The whole thing is just pathetic. The USAF can’t even train its own pilots. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That replacement plan would be fine by me too, the M-345 has captured my fevered dreams as it’s a modern straight wing non afterburner jet with consequently a wide performance range, just like the American made Scorpion but I digress… That’s the crux, the Bobs will fall back on the saves no money argument and all mine and yours procurement suggestions do cost more but produce better results so how does one in the system pull the safety handle, with data, prove the correlation between under resourcing UPT and the dip in quality then tee up for Congress the solution? Rhetorical but the Bobs are the cause of and likely the solution unless there is champion in waiting in Congress or the DoD… Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Or..no T-6, no T-1. Direct IPT to T-7. Let's throw a bunch of Lt's fresh out of a Part 141 with no military flight training, directly into a fast jet trainer, with no instrument phase, because they learned it in Cessna's. That is the current plan. Should be fine...

PC-21 to replace the T-6, PC-24 to replace the T-1, T-50, M-346, or any other proven advanced trainer to replace the T-38 would all be great but what AETC would say is that none of these solutions save the air force money. Something something our current UPT is producing the best and most capable pilots we've ever produced or whatever buzzwords they'd use.

Their mind was made up before the SGTOs even started. One of the more ironic things is hearing them refer to UPT 2.5 as ‘legacy’ UPT and it not working so they need to replace it with FUPT as if someone else other than staff came up with 2.5 and they are fixing that mistake. From the program itself, to the lack of resources, hell even the lack of housing for the influx of new students…it’s all FUPT’d up. Still unsure if they are going to attach a multi year ADSC to IPT, they certainly should. At our current graduation rate, we have AMC bound students waiting 9+ months for FTU start dates. That will only get worse. My prediction: 1. More DORs. Especially if USAFA forces grads to FUPT. 2. Significant increase in 88/89/CRs. (This is already happening with the SGTOs) 3. We won’t meet the 1500/yr goal. We’ll run our IP cadre into the ground. Retention will get even worse. 4. Q3 rates at FTUs will increase 5. Class A rates are going to increase, I already think they are, but don’t have the data to prove it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

His Wikipedia page really likes him, although I hear they locked down editing for a time. Apparently Combat Proud patrols extended to the cyber domain.

Attention all radios this net: Russia is gay.

'Merica for the win!

I was dragged into this homo discussion by DayMan simply by pointing out the inappropriate accusation thrown at potus. I stand by what i stated years ago, but not sure how it had any bearing on insulting potus with something unproven. If he had stated “trump has a history of acting degenerately towards women”, this discussion wouldn’t be happening. Also, Typical tactic to claim the other person “hates” and then use the term “closeted” as an insult (it usually is, but a “supporter” or “participator” shouldn’t think that). I don’t hate, but definitely think it’s a destructive choice just like all sexual debauchery is. You have free will and can think and act how you want. I’ve got many temptations I fight, but buggery is not one of them.

As demonstrated yesterday we can fly plenty long on one tank of gas!

Terrible idea.

VIP Cessna Longitude concept

I tried finding the video where they discussed this but to no avail this morning, i think WOMBAT, was in that episode, anyway they said if you follow the current matrix it would lead to directing to a shore landing and if it was blue water ops, I think they said barrier but I will eat humble pie if wrong. Mover, WOMBAT and Gonky were all skeptical of the loss of a carrier capable trainer, same for me as I am skeptical of less flying in mil trainers with mil instructors for AF pilots during training. Just posting plane porn here: What should have replaced the T-1, Pilatus PC-24 Add a UARSSI (no plumbing, just for dry contacts) to it, NVG friendly if not fully compatible cockpit, mil radios, HUDs both sides and boom a great multi engine trainer and mobility lead in aircraft.

I wonder if there’s some MBAs that ignored the design engineers. Nah, that’s ridiculous.

https://airrefuelingarchive.wordpress.com/2009/05/10/lockheed-u-2ef-2/#:~:text=In May 1961%2C in a,was the only U-2H.

Did you just use chatgpt to find you a source to support your argument without checking that source? I was curious about your argument and got 4 sentences in before realizing it's a completely irrelevant data set. 352 children (276 girls and 76 boys) from a single regional hospital is hardly what any self respecting researcher would call "representative" enough to support any claim outside of the walls of that regional hospital. You want to make a claim for or against an entire group of people, at least cite a national source. I'm not taking sides in this debrief, but that was just outright lazy tactics.

It is an interesting juxtaposition between power and morality. Throughout history a great many men of power have drifted from the defined morale standard. We focus on Kennedy, Clinton and MLK and forget the ones we hold as heroes. Eisenhower had a long affair with Kay Summersby and no one says a word. Robin Olds, a hero on this forum was having an affair with his secretary while a sitting Wing/CC in Vietnam. You are correct, popularity seems to outweigh transgressions.

As is standard, you are wrong. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/8008535/?utm_source=chatgpt.com Hatred of gays is common in closeted self-haters though.

Wait, what?!

Not sure this complete thread derailment serves any purpose other than to allow you to heroically defend faggotry and also call the sitting Pres a pedo with no actual proof. I hope you can find resolution with your struggles. As for my previous statement about burglars, the academic studies that showed the correlation, never said all smugglers were pedos, just that they are more likely to choose that evil path.

Pffttt. You just fly it into the big net. It’s easy.

For anyone who might still be waiting on their IFC to be certified by AFAC, mine was submitted on Thursday and stamped “approved pending MFS” on Friday. Granted, I did not require any waivers, but it was a super quick turnaround!

You absolutely would not "take a barrier" if PLM failed, it requires far more precision than a regular carrier landing and the consequence for screwing it up close to the deck is certain death

you are comfortable implicating "homos" as pedos as a generality, but not the guy with stacks of evidence against him? did you need proof to assign guilt to "homos" before?