The WOKE Thread (Merged from WTF?)

[Lawman]

Maybe it is overblown for cosmetologists...but I think it shows where the priorities are for state and city governments. 

It’s a nonsense talking point developed to generate outrage by people with no basis for comparison.

Look just to give you an idea how dumb this idea that 400 hours and we give you a gun... the deputy program in my counties Sheriff department was 6 months working in the jail. You were ineligible for work as a road officer until you passed that hurdle, which was after you met the state required course provided at the collegiate level (most places have gone to this model instead of individual academy programs outside major cities). If you actually looked around plenty of guys had been working the jail for as much as 18 months because of a limited number of field training officers so intake was managed to avoid deluding the road training.

After that time in the jail where one could find themselves permanently because they were deemed unfit for road work, you went to a field training probation period... that was typically another 6-8 months before you were certified for individual patrol. The city metro program was similar, with higher qualification standards for immediate hiring, so while you skipped the jail per say you also had to show more quality to even get in.


So yeah as some have pointed to, this nonsense you can be a cop easier than you can be a hairdresser is just noise from the same people screaming all cops are bastards.


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[Alpharatz]

As an aside..being LEO (or a teacher for that matter) in any kind of minority community is likely going to be nearly impossible before too long.  With a camera under every swingin pair the one with the best video wins.  So one key might be to just let whatever it is slide.  Ignore it and move right along.  Answer the calls.  Cook up a little activity for the books.  Don't be cooking up trouble.  Keep management happy.. After all, every contact with anyone by def. involves the presence of a deadly weapon...might as well minimize.  To change things, training is of course the key, but so is how a newbie gets socialized into the police system.  From the top down , Inspectors, Captains, Lt's, Sergeants, detectives all come up from the ranks (usually, outfits differ) soooo If there is misbehavior, poor judgement, drinking, nasty activity in general, the honchos know what's going on and tend to ignore it from top to bottom..since they were brought up the same way.  Unless the hammer comes down from the top thru the ranks and hard, the way the average officer is socialized to the job will never change.  Remember the old adage  "a policeman's life is not a happy one".  Join the Fire department. 

[pawnman]

13 hours ago, Lawman said:

It’s a nonsense talking point developed to generate outrage by people with no basis for comparison.

Look just to give you an idea how dumb this idea that 400 hours and we give you a gun... the deputy program in my counties Sheriff department was 6 months working in the jail. You were ineligible for work as a road officer until you passed that hurdle, which was after you met the state required course provided at the collegiate level (most places have gone to this model instead of individual academy programs outside major cities). If you actually looked around plenty of guys had been working the jail for as much as 18 months because of a limited number of field training officers so intake was managed to avoid deluding the road training.

After that time in the jail where one could find themselves permanently because they were deemed unfit for road work, you went to a field training probation period... that was typically another 6-8 months before you were certified for individual patrol. The city metro program was similar, with higher qualification standards for immediate hiring, so while you skipped the jail per say you also had to show more quality to even get in.


So yeah as some have pointed to, this nonsense you can be a cop easier than you can be a hairdresser is just noise from the same people screaming all cops are bastards.


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Do you think a cop fired by one city for misconduct should be eligible to be a police officer in another department? 

Because you're right,  there are differences...if a barber loses their license, they can't go work at a hair salon in a different city.

[ViperMan]

This series of articles highlights the "Animal Farm" that the NYT - our supposed paper of record - has become:

https://nypost.com/2021/02/10/ny-times-defends-1619-project-creator-after-she-doxxed-reporter/

https://nypost.com/2021/02/11/read-the-column-the-new-york-times-didnt-want-you-read/

https://nypost.com/2021/02/10/the-woke-mob-now-utterly-rules-the-new-york-times/

https://nypost.com/2021/02/09/war-erupts-at-ny-times-after-donald-mcneil-ousted-over-n-word-controversy/

In short, Nikole Hannah-Jones doxxed a journalist because she didn't like his questions about her previous (perhaps appropriate) use of the N-word. The questioning led her to delete her entire twitter history and post some nonsense about how she "routinely" deletes previous posts. I'm not personally surprised by this, because she is ultimately one garbage person, but the disparate response by the NYT decision makers is "problematic" to say the least.

At the same time, another NYT journalist, Donald McNeil, has been summarily ousted because of his use of the N-word. If you read into that situation's background, you'll find it wasn't used maliciously. What's more, is that the NYT scuttled a critical, though valid, piece of its own handling of that situation - which drew attention to how context matters and is being fully disregarded in this case.

I can't say I'm actually surprised by them not self-publishing an article airing their own dirty laundry, but it is important for us to understand the filter that anything the NYT publishes has passed through. Even more important, though, is that instances like this highlight the growing institutional acceptance and normalization of mob rule, arbitrary rule-making, and unprincipled application.

Rules for thee, not for me. This is the type of power "1984" warns us about.

Edited February 20, 2021 by ViperMan
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[filthy_liar]

"I pledge to advocate for and acknowledge all lived experiences and intersectional identities of every sailor in the Navy. I pledge to engage in ongoing self-reflection, education and knowledge sharing to better myself and my communities. I pledge to be an example in establishing healthy, inclusive and team-oriented environments. I pledge to constructively share all experiences and information gained from activities above to inform the development of Navy-wide reforms."

Latest wokeness infiltrating the DoD.  I sure hope we don't go to war with China.  That would be racist.

[gimmeaplane]

On 2/22/2021 at 11:05 AM, filthy_liar said:

Latest wokeness infiltrating the DoD.  I sure hope we don't go to war with China.  That would be racist.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-55926248

They're running counterflow.

[Prozac]

 

[ClearedHot]

[Lord Ratner]

28 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

Yikes

[pawnman]

4 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

It's photoshopped.

It was a response to Biden bombing Syria after blasting Trump on Twitter for...bombing Syria.

[Lawman]

I feel like blowing it up is the only reasonable thing to do with it now...


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[Waingro]

21 hours ago, pawnman said:

It's photoshopped.

It was a response to Biden bombing Syria after blasting Trump on Twitter for...bombing Syria.

Sadly, there are certain to be some professional faux-outrage experts who think this is real. Instead of just laughing about it. 

[HuggyU2]

On 5/31/2020 at 5:37 PM, slackline said:

As a white guy I’ve never had to discuss how to interact with the police if they have the misfortune of being pulled over, or talked to in the street.

Really?  I had that conversation with my children.  More than once too.  

[di1630]

Really?  I had that conversation with my children.  More than once too.  

I’ve been pulled over for BS reasons multiple times. A as couple times the cops admitted off-record to profiling. I didn’t blame them...suspicious as hell.

As a white dude, I was always 100% respectful and cooperative never expecting a free pass.

Apparently I could have just showed them my privilege card and kept driving.


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[jazzdude]

Apparently I could have just showed them my privilege card and kept driving.

That only works in New Jersey...

[Pooter]

46 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said:

Really?  I had that conversation with my children.  More than once too.  

Same here. And my dad had that talk with me.  People act like the police talk is only a thing for minorities, but the same shit applies to everyone.  Your police interactions will go far more smoothly if you at a minimum: mind your p's and q's and don't try to fight them. 
 

The number one way to reduce perceived police violence issues in this country is to teach people to not descend into hysterics the second you have to interact with a cop. And unfortunately exactly the opposite is being taught. 

Edited March 3, 2021 by Pooter

[arg]

1 hour ago, Pooter said:

Same here. And my dad had that talk with me.  People act like the police talk is only a thing for minorities, but the same shit applies to everyone.  Your police interactions will go far more smoothly if you at a minimum: mind your p's and q's and don't try to fight them. 
 

The number one way to reduce perceived police violence issues in this country is to teach people to not descend into hysterics the second you have to interact with a cop. And unfortunately exactly the opposite is being taught. 

Part of the talk nowadays maybe should include discreetly hitting record on the smart phone.

[Eli]

25 minutes ago, arg said:

Part of the talk nowadays maybe should include discreetly hitting record on the smart phone.

Why discreetly?  
 

Show police they are being recorded. Look up Pot Brothers at law on you tube. They show exactly how to talk to LEOs.  just “shut the up.” 
 

that’s what I tell my kids.  There is a reason to keep silent and record. 
 

 

[17D_guy]

2 hours ago, Eli said:

Why discreetly?  
 

Show police they are being recorded. Look up Pot Brothers at law on you tube. They show exactly how to talk to LEOs.  just “shut the up.” 
 

that’s what I tell my kids.  There is a reason to keep silent and record. 
 

 

Excuse me, it's "Shut the Fuck Up."

[pawnman]

7 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

Really?  I had that conversation with my children.  More than once too.  

Same. Especially now that she's learning how to drive.

[Lord Ratner]

It seems like a lot of the perceived racial offenses of the 2020's are minorities confusing assholes with racists, and assuming white people aren't subjected to the same treatment by the aforementioned assholes.

[brabus]

For the typical woke mob of late, nailed it...

https://www.facebook.com/awakenwithjp/videos/125512689496019/

Edited March 4, 2021 by brabus

[ClearedHot]

[Swamp Yankee]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

I'm hard pressed to think of anything more kid-friendly, creative, and wholesome than Dr Seuss.  This latest cancelling is ridiculous.  And to think in the mid-80's he caught crap for one of his books being critical of US cold war nuclear policy.  Folks always need something to complain about.  

Not a fan of Cardi B; her "music" isn't exactly introspective and intelligent.  Although the Ben Shapiro mashup where he sings the song is pretty funny. 

 

[Waingro]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Nobody got "cancelled", the estate elected to stop printing these books, none of which sell well, a couple of which have sold literally zero copies in the last few years. 

It's been useful at helping me cull the crybabies out of my Facebook feed though, most of whom love capitalism and free market right up until they want to signal made-up virtues when private entities make business decisions on their own. Also lots of overlap with the crowd who wanted to "cancel" (in their words) the NFL, Yeti Coolers, Delta Air Lines, etc.

This shit is entertaining. I'm eager for them to start attacking Kidz Bob next for "cancelling" the offensive swear words out of modern pop songs.