1 hour ago1 hr 4 minutes ago, FourFans said:Nope. Very simple. Been doing it for a long time.How often is it done on a prepared strip, vs unprepared? Just curious, as the TWZ article seems to point to it being on a random patch of ground in the middle of the desert.Either way, understood about it being something that's trained for. Regarding the KISS principle, was more referring to Ospreys being more simple than the MH-6 / C-130 combo.Granted, that's putting a lot of faith in Osprey capabilities......Again, spitballing from my comfy armchair. Edited 1 hour ago1 hr by Blue
56 minutes ago56 min 5 hours ago, disgruntledemployee said:WSO's new call sign should be Matt Damon, because in 2x movies where he's stranded in space, billions in resources are spent to rescue him. And he can claim some Borne for evading.Someone else suggested WALDO.
55 minutes ago55 min 55 minutes ago, Blue said:Unprepared on a random patch of ground in the middle of the desert.Yes.Using little birds makes total sense. Fast, stealthy, reliable, expendable. Looking for one dude is way easier with four of those instead of the flying freight train that is the MV-22 and the overcaffeinated hyper-violent TRAP team that's on it. Edited 51 minutes ago51 min by FourFans
55 minutes ago55 min The fact that not one good guy perished... This is going to make a great mini-series one day!
39 minutes ago39 min 58 minutes ago, Blue said:How often is it done on a prepared strip, vs unprepared? Just curious, as the TWZ article seems to point to it being on a random patch of ground in the middle of the desert.Either way, understood about it being something that's trained for. Regarding the KISS principle, was more referring to Ospreys being more simple than the MH-6 / C-130 combo.Granted, that's putting a lot of faith in Osprey capabilities......Again, spitballing from my comfy armchair.The MC-130 community trains to this extensively; the 160th is one of our primary customers. I've worked Little Birds on both prepared strips and dirt LZs; the community as a whole is proficient at both. -130s get stuck from time to time, it happens even in training, especially at strips that haven't been used much. I had a colleague almost get stuck doing Little Bird Infil at Red Devil LZ in CO during a Bi-Lat, was a close thing. The CV discussion is a valid one but people are missing the most likely reason those guys weren't playing on this one (open kimono, I'm speculating). It's probably was a logistics issue. It takes quite a while to deploy Ospreys; they usually have to go by boat if deploying from CONUS. If you fly them any serious distance the TAAR requirement is significant. If you have them do gas and gos you'll leave a trail of broken -22s to your FSB; they just break a lot. Their logistics footprint is also quite large, read a lot C-17 flights to move their support tail. They also aren't a great fast rope/hoist platform and they have pretty serious weight limitations at high DAs.
18 minutes ago18 min 8 hours ago, gearhog said:Now that’s leadership! Praise Allah, MF’ers!Happy Easter!Always with photoshops of this fat 80 yr old yoked out like Stallone.
13 minutes ago13 min 5 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:Always with photoshops of this fat 80 yr old yoked out like Stallone.He just might shoot that gun
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