The Next President is...

[M2]

4 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

i'm not even worried about her. its the radical element of the party that will have influence (warren, sanders, AOC(super hot, great rack))

It's always the bat shit crazy ones...

But how in the hell did anyone think she would be a good U.S. Representative?!?  And why in the hell would anyone vote for her again?

Our political system is fucked.

[Breckey]

Georgia elected a U.S. Representative who believes a cabal of Satan-worshiping pedophiles is running a global child sex-trafficking ring and plotting against President  Trump. People vote for her or AOC for the same reasons people vote for any candidate. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by Breckey

[Negatory]

1 hour ago, M2 said:

It's always the bat shit crazy ones...

But how in the hell did anyone think she would be a good U.S. Representative?!?  And why in the hell would anyone vote for her again?

Our political system is ed.

I mean, she represents her base, isn’t that what a representative is supposed to do? She has insane policies but I don’t think you can fault her on job performance. If you wanna fault anyone, fault the voters.

[HercDude]

5 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

i'm not even worried about her. its the radical element of the party that will have influence (warren, sanders, AOC...)

Where is the evidence of this?  I'm open to believing this, but I just haven't seen any of it in practice.  The Democrats had an open socialist in the primaries, Elizabeth Warren who is pretty damn close, and several other fringe candidates.  They picked.......Joe Biden?  The dude who was absolutely the most milquetoast generic centrist out of the 20-odd candidates?  What *evidence* is there that a President Biden will be powerless to stand up to a junior congresswoman from New York?

[ViperMan]

9 hours ago, VMFA187 said:

Biden wins. Trump has/will win GA, NC, and PA. He must then win either MI or WI and will win neither. 

The plus side is I think this buys more for Conservatives in the long term like the article someone posted here (I think.) Fortunately Conservatives maintain control of the Senate which means Biden/Kamala can't really accomplish much of their leftist agenda. But in two and four years there will be a big swing back right from what is arguably already center, which shows how biased the MSM is. 

I saw something similar today and it rang true with me, as well (https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-biden-democrats-reckoning-generation-matt-gorman).

Edit (another good one): https://theweek.com/articles/947824/left-just-got-crushed

From the article:

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"While the final numbers may still be in flux, Democrats on Capitol Hill are no longer going to get their liberal Christmas list passed through Congress and, even worse, are about to face a reckoning unlike any they’ve had in a generation—no matter who wins the White House.

Let’s get a status update on the top priorities for Schumer and Pelosi:

Packing the Supreme Court? Dead on arrival.

Eliminating the filibuster? Nope.

Tax hikes. Not going to happen."

And I tend to agree. Having Trump in office for another four years would be delicious if only for the unending YouTube stream of leftist children reeeeeeeeeing, but honestly, Trump may have served his purpose, which was killing the Clinton machine, upending the Obama years, and shining a black light on what is our politics. The next four years spent with a fully ineffectual democratic president who can't mumble his way through a teleprompter and a vice president who is in way over her head will serve the conservative cause much more in the long run.

Edited November 5, 2020 by ViperMan
spacing; added link

[kaputt]

28 minutes ago, HercDude said:

Where is the evidence of this?  I'm open to believing this, but I just haven't seen any of it in practice.  The Democrats had an open socialist in the primaries, Elizabeth Warren who is pretty damn close, and several other fringe candidates.  They picked.......Joe Biden?  The dude who was absolutely the most milquetoast generic centrist out of the 20-odd candidates?  What *evidence* is there that a President Biden will be powerless to stand up to a junior congresswoman from New York?

That’s exactly why they picked him. His outward appearance is of a moderate. His mental decline however can’t be denied and I highly doubt that major portions of the Democrat party didn’t see that as an opportunity. His health will either deteriorate to the point that he ends up resigning or the radical portions of the left will pull the strings and use teleprompter reading Joe as the mouthpiece. 
 

Admittedly, the R’s making gains in the house and holding the line in the Senate makes it much harder on the dems to implement their plans. 

[jrizzell]

5 minutes ago, kaputt said:

holding the line in the Senate makes it much harder on the dems to implement their plans. 

If the Republicans can hold a majority in the Senate...A 50-50 split and VP is tie breaking vote on bills 🤞

[dream big]

3 hours ago, M2 said:

It's always the bat shit crazy ones...

But how in the hell did anyone think she would be a good U.S. Representative?!?  And why in the hell would anyone vote for her again?

Our political system is fucked.

Have you ever been to New York? Spend some time there and you’ll realize why occasional cortex is their darling comrade. 

[Waingro]

1 hour ago, dream big said:

Have you ever been to New York? Spend some time there and you’ll realize why occasional cortex is their darling comrade. 

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you're subscribing to silly playground nicknames. I'd be embarrassed if my 9 year-old did that, and it's that much more cringey when adults do it. 

[ClearedHot]

4 hours ago, Waingro said:

Don't expect anyone to take you seriously if you're subscribing to silly playground nicknames. I'd be embarrassed if my 9 year-old did that, and it's that much more cringey when adults do it. 

You mean like Callsigns...

[FLEA]

8 hours ago, dream big said:

Have you ever been to New York? Spend some time there and you’ll realize why occasional cortex is their darling comrade. 

I'm going to be honest. Politically I detest her. We couldn't be more opposite on so many things. I also don't think she has all of her platforms well thought out. I do not think she's stupid though, just not as expereinced. We take for granted sometimes as officers we have a broad understanding of government, and policy. But at the end of the day, none of us ran for office, and she did. 

Morally though I somewhat admire her. She was unhappy with her circumstances, ran an extremely fierce campaign as an under dog, and stood strongly in front of a wave of criticism on everything from her background to her looks from opponents that would not take her seriously. This ultimately backfired, because now you have to take her seriously. Whether you like to admit it or not, she has political pull and influence. That equates to power, and so long as she had power, she matters. Would love to see some younger Republicans generate the same energy but they largely just don't exist. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by FLEA

[pcola]

He’s been mentioned here several times before. But I’ll echo. Dan Crenshaw has that kind of energy. But because he’s not a lib, he doesn’t get anywhere near the same media coverage and subsequent followers. But this guy, as a congressman, still has the capacity to generate more podcasts than I can find time to listen too. And every one that I hear is good. Everyone reading this thread should subscribe, regardless of your political beliefs. He’s a level headed voice of conservative reasoning.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hold-these-truths-with-dan-crenshaw/id1498149200



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[FLEA]

10 minutes ago, pcola said:

He’s been mentioned here several times before. But I’ll echo. Dan Crenshaw has that kind of energy. But because he’s not a lib, he doesn’t get anywhere near the same media coverage and subsequent followers. But this guy, as a congressman, still has the capacity to generate more podcasts than I can find time to listen too. And every one that I hear is good. Everyone reading this thread should subscribe, regardless of your political beliefs. He’s a level headed voice of conservative reasoning.

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hold-these-truths-with-dan-crenshaw/id1498149200



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I do like Dan Crenshaw a lot but you are right that he has difficulty generating media coverage. 

Maybe Madison Cawthorn can be a face for younger Republicans as well but the dude has too many question marks in his background right now to be a sure face for the party. 

[Majestik Møøse]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

You mean like Callsigns...

But there are rules!

[Prozac]

Honestly, I think AOC gets far more media attention from FOXNews and Breitbart than from most “mainstream” sources. 

Edited November 5, 2020 by Prozac
Comprehension

[arg]

Bouncing boobies at 1:25 in the AOC video.

[Seadogs]

I don't know guys, this is getting pretty close. Don't call Trump out yet. 

[17D_guy]

1 hour ago, Seadogs said:

I don't know guys, this is getting pretty close. Don't call Trump out yet. 

Getting?  It has been, and will be close.  I'm looking forward to seeing the margins that whomever wins each state wins by.  10K voters, 5K somewhere...maybe less.  I think that's cool, and our process is cool.  I hate that it's already getting called a fraud, largest turnout...ever?...and "fraud."  R's picking up more minority votes (good thing)...also fraud?  Ben Shapiro very right on his calls about this whole thing.

[Seadogs]

26 minutes ago, 17D_guy said:

Getting?  It has been, and will be close.  I'm looking forward to seeing the margins that whomever wins each state wins by.  10K voters, 5K somewhere...maybe less.  I think that's cool, and our process is cool.  I hate that it's already getting called a fraud, largest turnout...ever?...and "fraud."  R's picking up more minority votes (good thing)...also fraud?  Ben Shapiro very right on his calls about this whole thing.

Fox News needs to be dealt with for calling AZ like that. Does anyone know why they are stopping counting then restarting, stopping, etc? FL had 10 mil votes to count and did it well. Why are states with way less doing this and releasing it in batches? Makes no sense. 

[DosXX]

7 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

Fox News needs to be dealt with for calling AZ like that. Does anyone know why they are stopping counting then restarting, stopping, etc? FL had 10 mil votes to count and did it well. Why are states with way less doing this and releasing it in batches? Makes no sense. 

Yeah Fox shouldn't have done that. If Nevada gets called Biden which is looking more likely than Arizona then Fox is going to have to be the first to declare Biden winner.

In Florida they can start counting mail in ballots 22 days before election. Other states they have to wait until election day to start counting. They stop counting eventually to give the counters a break in these states, and one of many reasons it gets released in batches is because they get counted all together and then escorted to the clerk for the upload. 

[Seadogs]

28 minutes ago, DosXX said:

Yeah Fox shouldn't have done that. If Nevada gets called Biden which is looking more likely than Arizona then Fox is going to have to be the first to declare Biden winner.

In Florida they can start counting mail in ballots 22 days before election. Other states they have to wait until election day to start counting. They stop counting eventually to give the counters a break in these states, and one of many reasons it gets released in batches is because they get counted all together and then escorted to the clerk for the upload. 

Makes no sense that they have to wait days to count the vote though. It is eroding the Rights' faith in the security of a free and fair election. If Trump loses, it will be because of fraud. If Biden loses, it will be because Trump stole it. The narrative is set, the nation is about to see something crazy. 

[DosXX]

39 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

Makes no sense that they have to wait days to count the vote though. It is eroding the Rights' faith in the security of a free and fair election. If Trump loses, it will be because of fraud. If Biden loses, it will be because Trump stole it. The narrative is set, the nation is about to see something crazy

It makes sense if you consider the facts. In Nevada for example they continue to count votes if they were post marked by election day until Nov 10. Other states have similar rules but aren't being talked about because it isn't a close race and the state is called. You could also argue setting strict deadlines like no counts after election day erode free and fair election if the mail was delayed for reasons outside the voters control, so it's always going to be a political issue that gets set at the state level. Btw in Pennsylvania it was a Republican state legislature that blocked the counting of votes before election day in Pennsylvania. 

44 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

The narrative is set, the nation is about to see something crazy. 

Is this another bold prediction you are confident in? What do you think is going to happen? I don't think anything is going to happen outside of fringe protests and Trump complaining on Twitter.

[Seadogs]

11 minutes ago, DosXX said:

It makes sense if you consider the facts. In Nevada for example they continue to count votes if they were post marked by election day until Nov 10. Other states have similar rules but aren't being talked about because it isn't a close race and the state is called. You could also argue setting strict deadlines like no counts after election day erode free and fair election if the mail was delayed for reasons outside the voters control, so it's always going to be a political issue that gets set at the state level. Btw in Pennsylvania it was a Republican state legislature that blocked the counting of votes before election day in Pennsylvania. 

Is this another bold prediction you are confident in? What do you think is going to happen? I don't think anything is going to happen outside of fringe protests and Trump complaining on Twitter.

If you think being snide makes you sound smarter you would be incorrect.

 

Anyway, FL, a huge swing state should be modeled. It had its winner declared early in the night. A small state like NV taking days? I don't buy it. 

 

And what do you think is going to happen when months of "Trump will steal the election!" "Mail in ballots are safe/unsafe!" etc. come to fruition? You think Antifa will sit down? You think the right is going to watch an election get stolen? 

[17D_guy]

Saw a tweet on Shaprio's timeline from Jeb Bush that sheds some light into FL being ahead on these things. 

Before I retired and was a DO of one of the National CPTs we spent a lot of time discussing election protection (CYBERCOM put this out there).  There are a lot of states that are damn near medieval with how they run their elections. 

It's a benefit/cost of our system.  We had to dig down into the frigging US code/Constitution to figure out where we could offer assistance if we were asked for it.  You'd think the lawyers at CNMF would do that...nah.  That's why the Guard is so important for cyber, gov's can just use them (see Louisiana recently).

https://twitter.com/JebBush/status/1324168561582055426?s=20

Edited November 5, 2020 by 17D_guy
fixing link.

[17D_guy]

2 minutes ago, Seadogs said:

 You think the right is going to watch an election get stolen? 

Do you have an evidence of this?  Does anyone?  Outside Trumps ramblings there's no evidence of it.  They've lost a few lawsuits about it now.  Unless you're going to contend each of those judges is super liberal enough to disregard their oaths/jobs.  I saw 1 video on FoxNews about it that was quickly address by the Nevada election officials.

It is strange the Fox called AZ so early.  Also, cutting of counting of the mailing ballots will probably hit military voters overseas dis-proportionally.  Maybe not, I'm sure I'll see it in the news at some point.

There's evidence of states doing things their way...seems very Republican to me.