What's wrong with the Air Force?

[M2]

Authorizes Friday morale shirts with logo on the front and back:  This expands the current morale shirt regulation by allowing logos to be worn at a larger diameter on the back of the shirt in addition to having a logo on the left side of the chest not to exceed five inches in diameter. Regardless of the logo, the shirt must be Coyote Brown.

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3336524/air-force-releases-102nd-uniform-board-results-for-airmen-guardians/ 

[08Dawg]

3 minutes ago, M2 said:

Authorizes Friday morale shirts with logo on the front and back:  This expands the current morale shirt regulation by allowing logos to be worn at a larger diameter on the back of the shirt in addition to having a logo on the left side of the chest not to exceed five inches in diameter. Regardless of the logo, the shirt must be Coyote Brown.

https://www.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/3336524/air-force-releases-102nd-uniform-board-results-for-airmen-guardians/

I don’t read that as I can’t have a colored morale shirt in my flight suit. I read that as the Mx or LRS troop can have a Friday shirt in their OCPs with a big logo on the back. 

[SurelySerious]

The whole point of the shirt is to stand out. Being all the same color is back to the same bad decision from ten years ago.

[FLEA]

24 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

The whole point of the shirt is to stand out. Being all the same color is back to the same bad decision from ten years ago.

Thats all this stupid uniform board is. We convene it every year and every year all they do is circle jerk decisions from 5-10 years ago back into style so that someone else can change it back in 5-10 years. 

If Green bags were still common I guarantee sleeves would have to come back down next year but since that isn't happening my money is that hands wont go in pockets anymore and you can't talk on your cell phone again. This shit is just stupid..... do we really pay people to give us their opinion on what they think looks professional in their completely biased and sheltered opinions? 

[dream big]

5 hours ago, FLEA said:

Thats all this stupid uniform board is. We convene it every year and every year all they do is circle jerk decisions from 5-10 years ago back into style so that someone else can change it back in 5-10 years. 

If Green bags were still common I guarantee sleeves would have to come back down next year but since that isn't happening my money is that hands wont go in pockets anymore and you can't talk on your cell phone again. This shit is just stupid..... do we really pay people to give us their opinion on what they think looks professional in their completely biased and sheltered opinions? 

Gotta give E-8s and E-9s something new to study up on to go out and chief people with!

[M2]

10 hours ago, 08Dawg said:

I don’t read that as I can’t have a colored morale shirt in my flight suit. I read that as the Mx or LRS troop can have a Friday shirt in their OCPs with a big logo on the back. 

It doesn't stipulate OCPs, just morale shirts in general.

Much like ATF rulings, it's all up to "interpretation!" 😎

[M2]

10 hours ago, FLEA said:

Thats all this stupid uniform board is. We convene it every year and every year all they do is circle jerk decisions from 5-10 years ago back into style so that someone else can change it back in 5-10 years. 

If Green bags were still common I guarantee sleeves would have to come back down next year but since that isn't happening my money is that hands wont go in pockets anymore and you can't talk on your cell phone again. This shit is just stupid..... do we really pay people to give us their opinion on what they think looks professional in their completely biased and sheltered opinions? 

And people bitch about not being allowed to wear beards and "males" wearing earrings...

[pawnman]

11 hours ago, MCO said:

Yeah but you can wear an OCP patrol cap in your flight suit so it’s fine.

I'm actually looking forward to the ball cap while wearing the flight suit. 

[FLEA]

4 hours ago, M2 said:

And people bitch about not being allowed to wear beards and "males" wearing earrings...

I'm going to bitch about crew neck shirts continuously getting ignored for short sleeve blues. I'm getting tired of the 70's porn stars look. If we can have unruly facial hair why would even try?

[CaptainMorgan]

I'm actually looking forward to the ball cap while wearing the flight suit. 

Craziest was Altus was allowing the blues cap with the 2 piece circa 2019. Not sure if that’s still the case.


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[skibum]

After watching Office Space in 1999, I just wore what I wanted and grew my porn stache out. I got promoted along with everyone else so never did understand the debate.

[skibum]

Also, having sat on lots of promotion boards, I can tell you that uniform wear and facial hair was not what we spent our 6.9 minutes on when deciding your career.

[Pooter]

The only uniform item that I derive any morale from whatsoever is the green bag.  It serves as a daily reminder that I'm better than the nonners and the paper pushers who convene meetings like the one that produced this worthless uniform reg update. 
 

hot take alert: if you wear the two piece flight suit you're a beta cuck flyer who is complicit it the eventual eradication of the green bag. Shame on you and your disrespect for tradition and may god have mercy on your soul

[WheelsOff]

New reg change? Lol. That’s cute. I’m not giving up wearing my colored morale shirt…sorry (but not really). #guardhard #goguard

[hindsight2020]

1 hour ago, Pooter said:

The only uniform item that I derive any morale from whatsoever is the green bag.  It serves as a daily reminder that I'm better than the nonners and the paper pushers who convene meetings like the one that produced this worthless uniform reg update. 
 

hot take alert: if you wear the two piece flight suit you're a beta cuck flyer who is complicit it the eventual eradication of the green bag. Shame on you and your disrespect for tradition and may god have mercy on your soul

QFT cuz I can't like it twice.

 

[CaptainMorgan]

The only uniform item that I derive any morale from whatsoever is the green bag.  It serves as a daily reminder that I'm better than the nonners and the paper pushers who convene meetings like the one that produced this worthless uniform reg update. 
 
hot take alert: if you wear the two piece flight suit you're a beta cuck flyer who is complicit it the eventual eradication of the green bag. Shame on you and your disrespect for tradition and may god have mercy on your soul

Or I’m just fat.


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[HossHarris]

4 minutes ago, CaptainMorgan said:

Or I’m just fat.


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Why not both?

[FourFans]

22 hours ago, Pooter said:

hot take alert: if you wear the two piece flight suit you're a beta cuck flyer who is complicit it the eventual eradication of the green bag. Shame on you and your disrespect for tradition and may god have mercy on your soul

That's cute.  Be sure to tell the PJ that after he pulls your ass out of some shit hole.  Everyone who's been there knows that the color of the nomex doesn't actually matter so long as it works.  F the nonners.  They play no part in a warrior's self esteem.

I need to R2 my sarcasm detector

Edited March 25, 2023 by FourFans

[SocialD]

11 hours ago, WheelsOff said:

New reg change? Lol. That’s cute. I’m not giving up wearing my colored morale shirt…sorry (but not really). #guardhard #goguard

 

 

Did flying units actually stop wearing colored morale shirts?  

 

I will say, I'm pretty happy about the baseball cap in flight suits change.  Of course the effective date is the same day my participation in the Guard goes nearly to zero as I near retirement.  Thanks for nothing!

[Guest nsplayr]

I grew up in AFSOC and so we were leading edge of the two-piece multi cam flight suits but…

I have done two “career days” at my daughter’s school when she was in elementary. Wore the two-piece to one, and all the kids were like, “Woah you’re an army man!” Ok good try kid…0300, infantry, ya made it 😕

Wore my bag to the next one. Kids that time, “Are you a pilot?” At the time…no, but well done anyways young lads and lasses, you’ll grow up big and strong.

BL: They can take the green bag from my cold dead hands now. I’ve had the two-piece multi cam since probably 2010/2011 and yet I only wear it in emergencies. Yea yea taking the top off to poop or when hot, copy. Some traditions are worth a little inconvenience. Also I learned early on that looking cool (and sounding good on the radio) actually matter in aviation, and I teach that same lesson to all the young pups coming up behind me.

[FLEA]

58 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

I grew up in AFSOC and so we were leading edge of the two-piece multi cam flight suits but…

I have done two “career days” at my daughter’s school when she was in elementary. Wore the two-piece to one, and all the kids were like, “Woah you’re an army man!” Ok good try kid…0300, infantry, ya made it 😕

Wore my bag to the next one. Kids that time, “Are you a pilot?” At the time…no, but well done anyways young lads and lasses, you’ll grow up big and strong.

BL: They can take the green bag from my cold dead hands now. I’ve had the two-piece multi cam since probably 2010/2011 and yet I only wear it in emergencies. Yea yea taking the top off to poop or when hot, copy. Some traditions are worth a little inconvenience. Also I learned early on that looking cool (and sounding good on the radio) actually matter in aviation, and I teach that same lesson to all the young pups coming up behind me.

The poop things really important. A few times I dragged an olive green sleeve through an unknown puddle on the Cadillac floors in Bagram. Wasn't great when you were trying to reduce gross weight before stepping and you didn't have time to go back and change. 

[Biff_T]

Two peice suits, although not good at picking up chicks, were good for flying in the heat with body armor and a gun.  They also were good for keeping me warm when it was -20 and I still had to fly. Cabin heat sucks in the Huey.  Great for helicopters!   I kinda liked it when people assumed I wasn't a pilot/aircrew.  I got treated better by the support airmen lol.  

[CaptainMorgan]

Kids that time, “Are you a pilot?” At the time…no, but well done anyways young lads and lasses, you’ll grow up big and strong.

No, you’re still not a pilot. RPA operator needs to be the official name.


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[Guardian]

I think they prefer remote controller or unmanned pilot. It’s the sensor operators who like being called pilots.

[Guest nsplayr]

1 hour ago, Biff_T said:

I got treated better by the support airmen lol.  

That is valid, but it’s also less satisfying than showing up at the finance desk in your bag, sleeves rolled, sunglasses on top of your head, looking around like:

I keed…mostly 😎