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Mr. T

i bet its REALLY fun to be deployed with you. like really fun.

What you identify as poor leadership is actually someone asking you as an IP to be a fucking adult, sorry that is so difficult for you. Enjoy the airlines, I am sure you "me only" attitude will serve you quite well in the interview process. For the record I retired to get away from caustic leadership and a broken system, I think most of the people that served with me (some on here), know I was not into the you should be ridiculed because I was ridiculed routine, but getting offended because someone asks you to make sure you training paperwork is squared away...dear god, get the sand out of your vagina.

Paperwork does matter, not putting dick bags like Rat and Sush in charge is even more important.

After my most recent deployment, where we constantly fought our own AF just to get people properly paid (which still hasn't happened...), and to conduct normal operations, the AF deserves whatever happens to it. May they reap what they sow...

You are a weird dude. And I cringed at your attempt at your-mom jokes. Here’s an IP demo: You fvcked your last grade sheet harder than torqued’s mom on prom night I banged on the GTIMs submit button harder than torqued’s mom backstage at motley crew. Yesterday was hotter than torqued’s mom at a Burt reynold’s film festival Torqued’s mom does squat thrusts on fire hydrants Torqued’s mom swims after troop ships Torqued’s mom licks moose cvm off pine cones That tac initial was faster than torqued’s mom’s panties coming off at sturgis That last over-g banged up the pylons worse than torqued’s mom at a bill Cosby slumber party.

...wait...what?

Amen...Unity march, Everyone is a Warrior, punishing the entire base when one jackwagon gets a DUI, and sycophantic senior leaders with closets full of skeletons who serve only themselves...those are the reasons I got out. Also, for the the record I don;t think anyone needs a reason to get out. As an O-6 I spoke with multiple folks who were on the fence and the first thing I always said was "Thanks for your service, you are part of the 1% that raised your hand to serve and if you think getting out is the best thing for you and you family, godspeed, grateful you gave us the time you did."

Whoa whoa whoa, you mean there’s another side to this story!? (#sarcasm) Your measured response is getting in the way of our righteous indignation...! Chuck

If it’s not on JQP then it’s fake news.

UPDATE: While I was at OTS, the leadership specifically said "We read everything online about how the physical training here is not challenging, so we are specifically inceasing the intensity and frequency of PT." Personally, I thought the PT at first was a bit forced. We seemed to do 5 days straight of running (~ 3 miles at a slow pace), then rest for a day or two, then 5 days of mainly chest exercises. At the end of the course, a lot of people had complaints about how the workouts weren't "varied" enough. The leadership seemed to take notes on that and I'm sure it'll be more of a mix of muscle groups for the next few classes. Our class was specifically told we were doing a lot more PT than previous classes, so YMMV... All in all, I can't complain, but I would liked to have had more personal PT time to hit the gym instead of always doing body weight stuff... But you can't make everyone happy.

Did I hurt your feelings? Poor thumb-sucking SNAP, should we call mommy?

When people call you a douche, is it “douche,” or is it “dooooouuuuuuche”?

Don’t tell me what it “actually” was because you have no more information than the rest of us. I trust the guy telling the story know more about whether the dude was being a prick than you trying to put words in another O-6s mouth while simultaneously bitching about caustic leadership. You need to figure out what your position is and once you do, do not make mistake of assuming I give a shit. I’m also not interested in what a new airline guy thinks will serve an 11 year airline guy well. The Air Force is different than when you punched. The desks practically fly themselves these days.

I agree with you that asking someone to do their job as an IP is not unreasonable; that was not a good example of said 06’s shitty leadership - there are numerous other examples that everyone can identify with that constitute the very caustic leadership that drove you out: for example, said 06 lecturing the DOs that this #unity march takes precedence over all and any mission planning for the day. Can we all agree that this is a valid criticism of today’s 06+ leadership force and one of the reasons that drive good dudes out?

Well, none of us were there so we're left to infer the context and tone with which the threat was made. The simple fact that a threat was made doesn't seem to be in doubt. Where did you read this guy merely told them to "be vigilant"? That's not what was written nor what I read. I will agree with you: not everyone should be an IP. However, having been an IP since 2004, I certainly understand the frustration that comes from being blamed for increasingly complex and broken process that an IP has no control over. If another IP's gradesheet is overdue because he's been flying an ad-hoc schedule for several 12 hour days because they can't find anyone else to get a dozen crewmembers current before they leave for deployment next week while the network is down, don't expect me to wring my hands in worry that you'll take my cert away. I'm also not going to bag on the guy because he went home for dinner instead of writing me an essay in GTIMS. An OG threatening me for his performance makes me think he's completely out of touch and expects all his IP have a predisposition for fcuking up. People tend to live up to or down to the expectations set for them. You are correct in saying a CC should set clear positive expectations and priorities. You are incorrect in saying a CC should set clear expectations, priorities, and make threats, especially over "paperwork". As an OG, If someone didn't do a gradesheet, you ask your SQ/CC to talk directly to that person. You don't personally threaten all the other IPs with being decertified. That type of leadership style has been rode hard the last few years. If you think it's an acceptable one, let's have a look at the situation we presently find ourselves in.

Oh good. Just more things the FTU has to teach. What could go wrong?

Under the recent “syllabus revision”, perch setups are no longer a required item in T-38s, along with formation landings and several other items. Don’t worry though, we also cut the number of rides in the syllabus along with the solos to get these new pilots out to the CAF even quicker. Good thing we’ve re-defined it as a “pilot production problem”

This is why not every AC should be an IP and the expectation that all pilots should naturally progress to IP must be broken. A commander telling IP candidates, during cert, to be be vigilant with all aspects of this upgrade (including paperwork) or the upgrade will be revoked is good. It sets expectations and priorities. As the IP on tomorrows mission I appreciate a timely and well written grade sheet; it helps me help the student. That anyone takes this statement as a threat says more about themselves than the speaker. My advice, and I mean this kindly and professionally, is not to add emotion or insinuate intent onto words. Just take words for what they are.

Don’t know the guy at all so I’m not going to argue his rating on the brocrometer, but if your buddy and 3 other dudes get butthurt because the dude responsible for all the flying on the base tells 4 IP’s that they need to be professional aviators and do things correctly, then I don’t know if they are ready to be IP’s.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/education/wp/2018/03/21/the-military-is-lowest-of-our-low-a-teacher-told-his-students-he-was-just-fired/?utm_term=.fd7163af07ef

Yeah but I tell stories better. Crawl back into your hole before I share the one about you getting hit by a taxicab in front of the Venetian and limping around the Red Flag building for the next week.

Some people suck. They can't make it in the outside world and they know it. Some people are scared of change. The USAF is a guaranteed paycheck. It's hard to give up pay, medical care, and retirement if you have a family. Some people want to be senior leaders.

At least those who get out and get hired at a major prior to any Stop Loss will keep getting seniority while the AF fumbles around figuring things out. Also...I'd be curious as to how the AF would place/employ people coming back from a Stop Loss. They have to realize most of those people are going to do the bare minimum:

He hate us cause he ain't us...

I'm in this for the long haul. I intend to stick around here and give my advice as to how the Air Force and its pilots should operate well into my retirement years. I'm pretty sure my best years are behind me and if I don't consistently remind you what a badass I used to be, you can't expect me to get any sort of validation in my sunset years as a gear puller where my ego isn't regularly fed a steady diet of online recognition? Geez, can't someone just admit this is the funniest exchange ever precipitated by an animated snowflake .gif? I mean, I'm working my ass off here to make sure everyone is having a good time. FFS.