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Whether you think this is ironic or not is irrelevant. The more interesting thing here is that the right doesnt want to engage at this time on first, second, or fourth amendment suppression - something that should be a matter of principle, and something the right has pretended for years to be the biggest supporters. You just want to say “that’s crazy” #clownworld. The self-proclaimed party of the constitution should not be selective about who gets those rights. Wilhoit’s law? “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect“

I assume you have mind tricked yourself into thinking that Charlottesville, Michigan, DC, etc are different. OUR GLORIOUS WARRIORS, THEIR PETULANT CHILDREN. Calm down. Man who is videotaping tries to help woman who is aggressively pushed, killed 10 seconds later. Don’t need to freeze frame to see why people are upset. It’s unfortunate that the freeze frame clearly shows that ICE doesn’t unholster until the man is disarmed, though, and that he had nothing in his hands. Also doesn’t help that he’s a 37 year old white dude who works at a VA hospital as a nurse with absolutely zero record.

To go more macro, there are cities with more deportations than Minne, but none of the Minne BS going on. Why is that? Well, it’s because these aren’t grassroots protests. This isn’t normal Americans who just really love illegal aliens. This is a calculated insurgency-style operation that is well organized, equipped, and funded. There are big actors behind this with the ultimate goal of delegitimizing the gov and hoping to instill increased support for communist/marxist values. The agitators are useful idiots. They’re petulant children who didn’t get their way in the election, and despite a vast majority of Americans demanding deportations and voting for it in Nov 24, these people don’t care. The left either gets their president/policies, or they’ll hold cities hostage via riot and unrest until they get what they want…or hopefully for all of us reasonable people, they get what they deserve this time around (held accountable for breaking the law). On the ICE actions front, I’ll say this: I’m always skeptical of the fed gov and our rights - I am far from a “worship the gov” guy. But I also know what it’s like to be in situations where you have milliseconds to make life/death decisions. So while there are issues and bad apples in any organization, including ICE, I also have to say a big GO FUCK YOURSELF to every douche bag out there who hasn’t been in a situation like mentioned above and has the luxury of freeze framing videos from multiple angles over and over.

I think your absolutely right that "start of the incident." is where a lot of opinions diverge. Was filming "interference"? The statute on interference seems to leave a lot of room for interpretation. Kind of like "disorderly conduct". Pretty easy to charge but in the end will it stick? From a cop's perspective it just made somebody's life miserable justified or not and nothing will happen to the cop. You can beat the rap but not the ride. I don't see any justification for shoving the woman to the ground and Mr. Pretti came to her defense and right or wrong it cost him his life. Either way I don't see shooting Mr. Pretti in the back while he was on the ground as justified and certainly not the next multiple rounds. Of course, the agent(s) has probably already sat with an attorney to come up with his statement on what he needs to say and not say and what he "perceived" at the moment. No way to prove otherwise and it really can justify just about any use of deadly force. I'll tell you this I trust federal law enforcement no matter who they are a lot less now. Very hard to hold them accountable. Not absolute immunity but from a practical standpoint pretty close. State and local law enforcement have their leadership in reasonable proximity to who they serve and can answer to the actions of their employees. Federal not so much. I don't see any federal charges against these agents if for no other reason than I'm sure they'll get a pre-emptive pardon. In my mind DHS is coming very close to a national police force that can be used against anyone depending on the political winds.

Well, the left is now deeply concerned about their 2A rights, so we're clearly leaps and bounds beyond clown world.

I think both incidents change in my mind depending on where I put the "start of the incident." In the second case (keep this shortish). If I just focus on this: a dude gets in a physical altercation with cops. One sees he's has a gun, then a gun shot is heard. Pretty hard. I think by most precedent, that's a lawful shoot. BUT. I think in this case, you could argue that the cop started the physical altercation by shoving the woman into the ground. If you buy that, then the premise of self defense falls apart. Basically, what is a proportionate response by law enforcement to people standing in the street and getting in the way? All that said, the protestors are clearly engaging in civil disobedience, not just protest. Given the the history of successful civil disobedience hinges on getting the state to respond with disproportionate force, this should have been entirely predictable. ICE has handled all of this very poorly. If the goal was lots of deportations, this will end up being a failure. If the goal was a political show of force, it has backfired. In any event, physically getting in the way of law enforcement and not expecting force is just dumb.

I'm interested in what y'all think about the Minneapolis situation. Specifically, the Alex Pretti shooting. I'm a licensed concealed carry holder, and I can't imagine ever resisting arrest or in any way fucking with the police while I have a firearm on me. Not that I would be doing it unarmed either, but when I have a gun on me, legal or not, my decorum with the cops is at a maximum. I feel like the narrative has gotten so warped and biased that we're somehow expected to accept obstruction of justice and resisting arrest as normal parts of "peaceful" protesting. I do not. And I don't believe either Alex Pretti or Renee Goode should be dead, nor do I believe they intended to harm the officers they were interacting with. But I also think their actions were easily interpreted as hostile by officers with only seconds to assess the situation and act in self defense. Neither of these people would be dead if they were holding signs on the sidewalk and chanting anti-ICE slogans.

Out breeding white Europeans, white chicks have forgotten what their number responsibility is

All Taiwan has to do for defense is line the beaches with nudie mag racks and free tablets with whatever version of pornhub they got out there. Invasion halted.

Another article I saw called this guy, Gen. Zhang Youxia, the last real general implying he was the last true military professional. The article had a positive point to it saying that it probably lessened the chance of a Taiwan invasion at least in 2026. I’m not sure about that, sycophants are not sources of sound advice. Sound advice though adjusting for my biases might be now is the time, hopefully not. IDK, what I am concerned is a timed action to take advantage of our electoral calendar and favorable weather conditions, namely a hybrid action in October.

Time to get that 69th booster shot!

Several YouTube videos have appeared on my feed about a failed Coup attempt which is the reason for these sudden purges. I take most of them with a grain of salt but they cannot be completely discarded.

Xi has purged to the point of creating an echo chamber, no one dares push back, no one gives advice, they all just confirm his thoughts and he is convinced he must retake Taiwan.

I'm confused. You just came here and posted this without reading anything?

Xi is in a purging mood thankfully https://www.foxnews.com/world/chinas-top-general-ousted-placed-under-investigation-latest-military-purge

Another reason for them to go sooner rather than later. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-admin-sought-redactions-key-china-war-game-report-warning-us-military-readiness-gaps

You may be right but I have to have some hope there is a shred of wisdom / courage left in the ruling classes and maturity / character in the masses

Well hopefully things get pushed this week since we're staring down another shutdown. If it goes like last time it'll push us past our 28 Feb NLT.

Yep. While Europe Slept: How Radical Islam is destroying the West from Within. Excellent read.

A Perfect Storm for Taiwan in 2026? | Foreign Affairs Interesting article.

Have a friend who says he shot a cat with a 5.7 incendiary round, burned for 10”. I’m intrigued…

Ok it’s good to know that no one here was advocating for a US takeover/hybrid war against Greenland. I assumed too much there.

I take my coffee like The Wolf.

Anyone that has been to London lately can tell you it is likely too late for that. Western Europe as a whole has committed cultural suicide in deference to the immigrants.

Hopefully. Although, the Gold Dot and 197SR look a lot better than I would have thought initially.