The WOKE Thread (Merged from WTF?)

[brabus]

4 hours ago, nsplayr said:

That appears to apply to legal residents, not illegals immigrants, it’s for local elections only, and this story is about Montpelier, VT! Are those potential voters even changing the outcome of local things they’re voting on?

I’m filing this under DGAF. It’s below my line.

If you wanna get all spun up on this cool. If somewhere local wants to let legal permanent residents vote on local stuff, ok cool. Didn’t apply to federal elections, no data on if recent non-citizen immigrants vote in any particular way on local issues, no data on total numbers vs regular citizens. 

I wasn’t spun up, just pointing out you were wrong when you said non-citizens can’t vote. VT specifically has had non-citizens voting all over the state for some time. This one article is just one example of that. 

[Guest nsplayr]

Just now, brabus said:

I wasn’t spun up, just pointing out you were wrong when you said non-citizens can’t vote. VT specifically has had non-citizens voting all over the state for some time. This one article is just one example of that. 

Fair enough. Yes I was wrong to not caveat that I meant in federal elections and copy shot that local & state elections, where some places allow non-citizens to vote, also matter. 🍻

[filthy_liar]

nsplayer you are in Nashville, you claim.  I would like to meet up with you.  I'm around the Huntsville area.  I'd like to get your thoughts.  

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[Jam]

3 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

These ing "moderators" need to go.  They are suppressing free speech.  them too.

 

3 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

  Protests from the left over obviously grifts (BLM) start shooting.   

The mean moderators are suppressing my free speech but if anyone protests something I don’t agree with they should be shot!

- just one instance of hypocrisy in your many delusional takes. You must be a nightmare of a person to have in a Sq

 

[Mark1]

6 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

I will give my life to not have nsplayer's congressional leadership to allow men into my daughter's bathroom.

Have you pitched this to the PR team at DOD?  This is exponentially better recruitment fodder than that "Be All You Can Be" bullshit they used to run.  And they can sprinkle in some of your 'start shootin' stuff too for added pop.

[pawnman]

12 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

nsplayer you are in Nashville, you claim.  I would like to meet up with you.  I'm around the Huntsville area.  I'd like to get your thoughts.  

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You just threatened to shoot people you disagree with, then offered to meet up with someone you disagree with. 

Get some help, bud. 

[Prozac]

12 hours ago, filthy_liar said:

I wasn't a wso, I was a pilot.  Before that I flew A-10s.

On flight simulator? In your mom’s basement? 😂

[Prozac]

13 hours ago, Sim said:

🙄  Because senses distinguishes between illegal and citizens, right?  And that data is not used to redistribute house members..... 

Might want to look into enrolling in some continuing education:

[Sim]

17 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Yea man, because it’s mandated in the Constitution to count all free persons.

Free persons , not fucking illegals. CA has been stealing how many seats in the House due to this? 

 

But I know, lefts moto -  under any means necessary - you will lie, steal and cheat as long as your "interests" will be satisfied.  

@Prozac Suck a dick. 

[Guest nsplayr]

Are illegal immigrants slaves or something? Because that’s not allowed anymore. If they are we seriously should take action, you’re right!

Free persons in the context of no slavery and no 3/5ths compromise = everyone who lives there, period.

I did not make up this rule nor is it impossible to change if you’d like, I’m just telling you that’s what is in the constitution & subsequent judicial rulings about the census.

[Prozac]

2 hours ago, Sim said:

@Prozac Suck a dick.

Wow, zinger bro. 

[brabus]

22 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Once again, the right wishing for a civil war.

Don’t paint with a broad brush - I’m willing to bet the number of people actually wanting a civil war are in the hundreds, e.g. not even a blip on the radar. 

[Disco_Nav963]

26 minutes ago, brabus said:

Don’t paint with a broad brush - I’m willing to bet the number of people actually wanting a civil war are in the hundreds, e.g. not even a blip on the radar. 

[DFRESH]

Admin note - Filthy_Liar went off the deep end. I was allowing most of his posts until they were all complete crazy-town, "shoot em' up", civil war nonsense. It's a tough line to draw because I'm all about letting folks post whatever they want, but there's definitely a limit, and Filthy_Liar exceeded it. My hope is that it was some kind of drunken keyboard warrior stuff... That said, I've tipped off the appropriate authorities. "Free speech" doesn't apply to shouting "fire" in a crowded theater, nor "I'm going to start shooting". 

[Biff_T]

Nothing discussed in this thread is worthing killing another human over.   Most of us are just a bunch of washed up military aviators with no more war to fight.  

Limited Government-Hooray.  My political view.  Dont harm the kids.  Make less laws instead of more.  

[FourFans]

As someone who's intimately familiar with going off the deep end, you gotta really go for it to get moderated.  Thanks @DFRESH for keeping it honest.

Edited June 11, 2023 by FourFans

[Trogdor]

On 6/9/2023 at 9:36 PM, brabus said:

Don’t paint with a broad brush - I’m willing to bet the number of people actually wanting a civil war are in the hundreds, e.g. not even a blip on the radar. 

I bet it's slightly larger. Maybe by a hundred or so...

All this talk about how great or terrible cities are... Don't forget that there are large swaths of this country that feel underrepresented. They feel that cities like SF, Seattle, Denver, or Chicago get to dictate what goes on in their states. The fact that things like Texit exists (actual state legislators signaling support) or rural counties voting to leave their state point to a much larger dissatisfaction with city-state politics.  I feel the addition of TQ+ to the LGB asking along with social media is only accelerating the issue. But I feel that was the goal even 20 years ago. So, now we have states voting in sweeping legislation one way or another, like MN or FL to name a few.

[Prozac]

11 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

I bet it's slightly larger. Maybe by a hundred or so...

All this talk about how great or terrible cities are... Don't forget that there are large swaths of this country that feel underrepresented. They feel that cities like SF, Seattle, Denver, or Chicago get to dictate what goes on in their states. The fact that things like Texit exists (actual state legislators signaling support) or rural counties voting to leave their state point to a much larger dissatisfaction with city-state politics.  I feel the addition of TQ+ to the LGB asking along with social media is only accelerating the issue. But I feel that was the goal even 20 years ago. So, now we have states voting in sweeping legislation one way or another, like MN or FL to name a few.

That sentiment goes both ways (sts). The majority of our population lives in metro areas and the majority of that group has decided that, even with all of the flaws so frequently noted by conservative commentators, Democrats are still preferable to Republican candidates. Why, you ask? They feel that the rural minority often gets to dictate to them what goes on in their communities. I.e. abortion bans, unencumbered gun rights, anti legal immigration, the electoral college, anti-gay rights, religious proselytizing, etc, are just a few of the issues that the urban population (you know, the majority of Americans) feel are being jammed down their throats by conservatives. 

[HeloDude]

7 minutes ago, Prozac said:

That sentiment goes both ways (sts). The majority of our population lives in metro areas and the majority of that group has decided that, even with all of the flaws so frequently noted by conservative commentators, Democrats are still preferable to Republican candidates. Why, you ask? They feel that the rural minority often gets to dictate to them what goes on in their communities. I.e. abortion bans, unencumbered gun rights, anti legal immigration, the electoral college, anti-gay rights, religious proselytizing, etc, are just a few of the issues that the urban population (you know, the majority of Americans) feel are being jammed down their throats by conservatives. 

Wait…you’re against the electoral college?  And why are “unencumbered gun rights” a bad thing?

[Prozac]

25 minutes ago, HeloDude said:

Wait…you’re against the electoral college?  And why are “unencumbered gun rights” a bad thing?

Not commenting on the merits or lack there of of any of these issues. Just highlighting that one party/segment of the population forcing its will on another is not the exclusive domain of liberals. 

[HeloDude]

9 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Not commenting on the merits or lack there of of any of these issues. Just highlighting that one party/segment of the population forcing its will on another is not the exclusive domain of liberals. 

I can’t disagree with you there.  But the electoral college and “unencumbered gun rights” has zero to do with one party/segment of the population forcing its will on another.  Unless you’re suggesting that the left doesn’t support the Constitution? 

[M2]

24 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Not commenting on the merits or lack there of of any of these issues. Just highlighting that one party/segment of the population forcing its will on another is not the exclusive domain of liberals. 

It's not the "exclusive domain of liberals," but they use it far more than the conservatives...

[M2]

To tell if a party has traits of fascism, here's the acid test.

- Are they attempting to disarm citizens?

- Are they attempting to control the flow of information?

- Are they trying to set up where the government controls your healthcare, housing, education, and welfare making you dependent on them?

- Do they balk when you suggest making elections more secure?

- Do they attempt to blame one racial group for the problems of the nation?

- Are they trying to control academia and the media?

- Are they wanting to pack the courts to suit themselves?

- Do they call for violence against those that disagree with them?

That tends to be your “real party of fascism!”

[Boomer6]

To pile on to M2’s last point, there may be discussion from some on the right about how the current divisions could spark a civil war. However, the number of ppl openly calling for the use of violence against members of the opposite party has been predominantly from voices on the left. It’s been almost commonplace these days to hear a media figure make a quip about the use of violence, read a tweet from a celebrity about using violence, or watch a political candidate speak at a rally organized by a group who endorses violent crime as a means of enforcing their politics.

The most concerning part is this violent rhetoric is accepted as being righteous. We have ppl getting canceled for their faith and people being celebrated for urging violence against members of the opposite party. 

Edited June 11, 2023 by Boomer6

[Biff_T]

If any queer looking Antifa "warriors" show up for a fight..... lol.   Really, how long would a teenager with a ski mask, skinny jeans and a Morrissey t-shirt last?  My impression of SJWs is they cant hold guns properly and they are always trying to find a way to live off of their parents a few more years.   Oh, and lots of mouth breathing.  

Edited June 11, 2023 by Biff_T
Edit: Let the sounds of Morrissey be our war cry lol