The WOKE Thread (Merged from WTF?)

[ClearedHot]

3 hours ago, Waingro said:

Nobody got "cancelled", the estate elected to stop printing these books, none of which sell well, a couple of which have sold literally zero copies in the last few years. 

It's been useful at helping me cull the crybabies out of my Facebook feed though, most of whom love capitalism and free market right up until they want to signal made-up virtues when private entities make business decisions on their own. Also lots of overlap with the crowd who wanted to "cancel" (in their words) the NFL, Yeti Coolers, Delta Air Lines, etc.

This shit is entertaining. I'm eager for them to start attacking Kidz Bob next for "cancelling" the offensive swear words out of modern pop songs. 

Biden removed Dr Seuss from his speech.  As reading Dr Seuss on this day is a long standing tradition, I'd say that's the ultimate cancel. 

[SurelySerious]

4 hours ago, Waingro said:

Nobody got "cancelled", the estate elected to stop printing these books, none of which sell well, a couple of which have sold literally zero copies in the last few years  

Not true, “just the publisher  electing to stop printing” was just the first action. 

[Pooter]

Unpopular opinion incoming: I think wap is a pretty decent song. Certainly not a  feminist anthem, but it has some clever lyrics and I think considering the number of male artists who spend every waking moment talking about their dicks, we can give the ladies this one. It's certainly more hilarious and fun than any of the other drivel on pop stations. Cardi b has other good songs too. "I like it" is an absolute banger of a remix. Shhhhh it's okay you can admit it.

[ClearedHot]

9 hours ago, Pooter said:

Unpopular opinion incoming: I think wap is a pretty decent song. Certainly not a  feminist anthem, but it has some clever lyrics and I think considering the number of male artists who spend every waking moment talking about their dicks, we can give the ladies this one. It's certainly more hilarious and fun than any of the other drivel on pop stations. Cardi b has other good songs too. "I like it" is an absolute banger of a remix. Shhhhh it's okay you can admit it.

I don't have a problem with the song, not sure I've ever heard while listening to the "40's" on XM but hey...to each his or her own.  The issue is the absolute lunacy of being upset over Dr Seuss when it is okay to have lyrics like this, along with books like Mein Kampf.

[M2]

10 hours ago, Pooter said:

Unpopular opinion incoming: I think wap is a pretty decent song. Certainly not a  feminist anthem, but it has some clever lyrics and I think considering the number of male artists who spend every waking moment talking about their dicks, we can give the ladies this one. It's certainly more hilarious and fun than any of the other drivel on pop stations. Cardi b has other good songs too. "I like it" is an absolute banger of a remix. Shhhhh it's okay you can admit it.

First, you have shitty taste in music!

That said, no one is stopping you or anyone else from listening to it.

Therein lies the rub.  Biden is wrong for not reading Dr. Seuss.  It is tradition to read those books on Read Across America Day.  Hell, even Former President Barack and Michelle Obama said “We love Dr. Seuss in this house” at the 2015 event.

https://nypost.com/2021/03/03/barack-and-michelle-obama-praised-dr-seuss-during-presidency/

And aren't the Obamas the "gold standard" in woke opinion?!?

Of course the upside is Dr. Seuss books are now selling like hotcakes!

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/ny-sales-dr-seuss-soar-after-announcement-titles-drop-racist-imagery-20210304-qqn635rjwbcsddliwgsb5xs6wi-story.html

This is what the world has become...

 

[Waingro]

4 hours ago, M2 said:

Therein lies the rub.  Biden is wrong for not reading Dr. Seuss.  It is tradition to read those books on Read Across America Day.  Hell, even Former President Barack and Michelle Obama said “We love Dr. Seuss in this house” at the 2015 event.

This long-standing tradition started by Obama himself? 😂

[Waingro]

4 hours ago, M2 said:

Of course the upside is Dr. Seuss books are now selling like hotcakes!

 

Good, Dr. Seuss is a classic. 

Unless you meant the people paying exorbitant sums for the out-of-print ones, that nobody was buying before anyway. I wonder if those people will store those unread gems with their mountain of uneaten Goya beans, unused MyPillows©, or unwatched Rosanne DVDs. Or if they'll eventually make it to the trashcan with the items Tucker Carlson told them to dump, like Taylor Swift albums, NFL gear, Yeti Coolers, Keurig Makers, Starbucks mugs, Netflix gift cards, Budweiser anything, Oreo cookies, Gilette products, Nike products... It's dizzying trying to keep up with remembering all the shit that conservatives have tried to boycott for perceived injustices lately, I'm sure I missed a bunch. 

[SurelySerious]

9 minutes ago, Waingro said:

Good, Dr. Seuss is a classic. 

Unless you meant the people paying exorbitant sums for the out-of-print ones, that nobody was buying before anyway. I wonder if those people will store those unread gems with their mountain of uneaten Goya beans, unused MyPillows©, or unwatched Rosanne DVDs. Or if they'll eventually make it to the trashcan with the items Tucker Carlson told them to dump, like Taylor Swift albums, NFL gear, Yeti Coolers, Keurig Makers, Starbucks mugs, Netflix gift cards, Budweiser anything, Oreo cookies, Gilette products, Nike products... It's dizzying trying to keep up with remembering all the shit that conservatives have tried to boycott for perceived injustices lately, I'm sure I missed a bunch. 

Almost as dizzying as keeping up with what the woke crowd decries, right?

[Homestar]

14 minutes ago, SurelySerious said:

Almost as dizzying as keeping up with what the woke crowd decries, right?

[SurelySerious]

5 minutes ago, Homestar said:

[Swamp Yankee]

1 hour ago, Waingro said:

Good, Dr. Seuss is a classic. 

Unless you meant the people paying exorbitant sums for the out-of-print ones, that nobody was buying before anyway. I wonder if those people will store those unread gems with their mountain of uneaten Goya beans, unused MyPillows©, or unwatched Rosanne DVDs. Or if they'll eventually make it to the trashcan with the items Tucker Carlson told them to dump, like Taylor Swift albums, NFL gear, Yeti Coolers, Keurig Makers, Starbucks mugs, Netflix gift cards, Budweiser anything, Oreo cookies, Gilette products, Nike products... It's dizzying trying to keep up with remembering all the shit that conservatives have tried to boycott for perceived injustices lately, I'm sure I missed a bunch. 

Don't forget unnecessarily large bag of Duck Commander calls.   

I prefer Buck Gardner anyway. 

 

Edited March 5, 2021 by Swamp Yankee

[kaputt]

22 hours ago, Waingro said:

Good, Dr. Seuss is a classic. 

Unless you meant the people paying exorbitant sums for the out-of-print ones, that nobody was buying before anyway. I wonder if those people will store those unread gems with their mountain of uneaten Goya beans, unused MyPillows©, or unwatched Rosanne DVDs. Or if they'll eventually make it to the trashcan with the items Tucker Carlson told them to dump, like Taylor Swift albums, NFL gear, Yeti Coolers, Keurig Makers, Starbucks mugs, Netflix gift cards, Budweiser anything, Oreo cookies, Gilette products, Nike products... It's dizzying trying to keep up with remembering all the shit that conservatives have tried to boycott for perceived injustices lately, I'm sure I missed a bunch. 

To be fair, there is a pretty massive difference between saying you are going to boycott a product, service, person, sports league, etc.. (even if some of the reasoning seems silly or ridiculous) by not buying or partaking in what they are offering; vs a concerted effort to smear and ultimately remove and destroy a person, business, idea, symbol, tv show, book, movie, etc...

Example: I personally do not watch a second of NBA basketball and have not for years now. My reasoning is based not only on the ridiculous woke, political, and pro Chinese crap the league has spouted in recent history, but also the fact that it’s absolutely garbage basketball. However, my choice to not watch is my own and I don’t give a shit if someone else absolutely loves to watch the NBA, that’s their choice and they have every right to do so. By choosing not to watch, I don’t have to see the stuff I don’t like (imagine that!) and if enough people ultimately start to feel like I do, it will hurt the league in its pocketbook and they may actually make a change that adjusts to the demands of their customers.

Which btw, actually seems to have happened with the NBA when their ratings went in the absolute toilet last year, and magically this year they’ve reduced a large amount of their political messaging. Maybe the next move they can make is raising the shot clock to 30 seconds and making them play defense. I digress...

What you won’t see me doing is throwing a temper tantrum through social media and interviews on CNN about how the NBA doesn’t prescribe to my cultural norms and needs to be removed from the face of the earth, damn the rest of you!

 

[arg]

[Lord Ratner]

On 3/6/2021 at 11:40 AM, kaputt said:

To be fair, there is a pretty massive difference between saying you are going to boycott a product, service, person, sports league, etc.. (even if some of the reasoning seems silly or ridiculous) by not buying or partaking in what they are offering; vs a concerted effort to smear and ultimately remove and destroy a person, business, idea, symbol, tv show, book, movie, etc...

Example: I personally do not watch a second of NBA basketball and have not for years now. My reasoning is based not only on the ridiculous woke, political, and pro Chinese crap the league has spouted in recent history, but also the fact that it’s absolutely garbage basketball. However, my choice to not watch is my own and I don’t give a shit if someone else absolutely loves to watch the NBA, that’s their choice and they have every right to do so. By choosing not to watch, I don’t have to see the stuff I don’t like (imagine that!) and if enough people ultimately start to feel like I do, it will hurt the league in its pocketbook and they may actually make a change that adjusts to the demands of their customers.

Which btw, actually seems to have happened with the NBA when their ratings went in the absolute toilet last year, and magically this year they’ve reduced a large amount of their political messaging. Maybe the next move they can make is raising the shot clock to 30 seconds and making them play defense. I digress...

What you won’t see me doing is throwing a temper tantrum through social media and interviews on CNN about how the NBA doesn’t prescribe to my cultural norms and needs to be removed from the face of the earth, damn the rest of you!

 

Shack. Boycotting ≠ Cancelling

[arg]

This is pretty good.

 

[pawnman]

https://notthebee.com/article/it-was-more-than-just-pepe-le-pew-new-york-times-columnist-went-after-speedy-gonzales-too-and-his-failure-was-epic

Before you get offended on someone's behalf... maybe see if they're offended first. 

[M2]

20 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Before you get offended on someone's behalf... maybe see if they're offended first. 

 

[M2]

14 hours ago, arg said:

This is pretty good.

 

Jonathan Pie, a fictional political correspondent character created and portrayed by English comedian Tom Walker.

Pie appears in a series of online videos in which he rants and explodes in anger about the state of British, American and Australian politics with the videos being presented as though he were a real reporter speaking his personal opinions to the camera before or after filming a regular news segment.

https://www.jonathanpie.com/

[pawnman]

57 minutes ago, M2 said:

 

The thing I've never understood about "cultural appropriation" is that the same people who will drag a white guy over the coals for wearing a sombrero will complain about the lack of representation in the media.

Of course it isn't represented...you want to fence off culture based on race, rather than share it with the rest of the population.

[jazzdude]

The thing I've never understood about "cultural appropriation" is that the same people who will drag a white guy over the coals for wearing a sombrero will complain about the lack of representation in the media.
Of course it isn't represented...you want to fence off culture based on race, rather than share it with the rest of the population.

It's also interesting to look back through history and see how different cultures borrow from other cultures, and how there are some pretty off the wall appropriations that may not be initially apparent.

Like tacos al pastor, typically thought of now as a Mexican dish, was borrowed from Lebanese immigrants to Mexico.

Stereotypes are the same; can often be good or acceptable, but can be used badly. But eliminating the stereotypes for a certain group in media means applying/assigning other stereotypes to that group, usually from a majority group.

[arg]

2 hours ago, M2 said:

Jonathan Pie, a fictional political correspondent character created and portrayed by English comedian Tom Walker.

Pie appears in a series of online videos in which he rants and explodes in anger about the state of British, American and Australian politics with the videos being presented as though he were a real reporter speaking his personal opinions to the camera before or after filming a regular news segment.

https://www.jonathanpie.com/

There's an Aussie that does something like this too. Can't remember his name.

[Lord Ratner]

On 3/10/2021 at 8:22 AM, M2 said:

 

It's one part depressing and one part amazing how many people will say just about anything with supreme confidence, then completely fall apart when you simply ask "why?"

[StoleIt]

Army testing showed women failed the ACFT at a consistent 65% rate, while men failed at about a 10% rate, according to Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., and Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., who sought the pause on the service’s implementation of the ACFT.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-considers-change-to-combat-fitness-test-scoring-for-male-female-soldiers-1.662045

[pawnman]

9 hours ago, StoleIt said:

Army testing showed women failed the ACFT at a consistent 65% rate, while men failed at about a 10% rate, according to Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., and Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., who sought the pause on the service’s implementation of the ACFT.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-considers-change-to-combat-fitness-test-scoring-for-male-female-soldiers-1.662045

For a brand-new test that's still in the "data-gathering" phase of  implementation. 

[HossHarris]

11 hours ago, StoleIt said:

Army testing showed women failed the ACFT at a consistent 65% rate, while men failed at about a 10% rate, according to Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., and Richard Blumenthal, D-Conn., who sought the pause on the service’s implementation of the ACFT.

https://www.stripes.com/news/us/army-considers-change-to-combat-fitness-test-scoring-for-male-female-soldiers-1.662045

Wait .... are you suggesting there may be actual physiological differences between men and women. Weird