COVID-19 (Aka China Virus)

[otsap]

The judge in Doster v. Kendall just this morning certified a class action including all Air Force, Space Force, Guard/Reserve, Cadets, etc, and issued a Temporary Restraining Order prohibiting the AF from taking adverse action against unvaxxed members who filed a Religious Accommodation Request that is either still being processed or was denied.  The TRO lasts 14 days, DoD has 7 days to respond and argue against class certification.  At that point the judge either accepts DoD's argument, unlikely IMO, or more probably issues a Preliminary Injunction.

[Lord Ratner]

3 hours ago, otsap said:

The judge in Doster v. Kendall just this morning certified a class action including all Air Force, Space Force, Guard/Reserve, Cadets, etc, and issued a Temporary Restraining Order prohibiting the AF from taking adverse action against unvaxxed members who filed a Religious Accommodation Request that is either still being processed or was denied.  The TRO lasts 14 days, DoD has 7 days to respond and argue against class certification.  At that point the judge either accepts DoD's argument, unlikely IMO, or more probably issues a Preliminary Injunction.

My guess is the government changes their tune suddenly and claims there is no longer a vaccination mandate, and thus the case has no standing to proceed. This is exactly what they did with the mask mandate when a federal judge issued an injunction, because they realized it would be much worse to their cause to have a completed ruling that sets a precedent. If they just admit defeat (by admitting nothing at all and simply dropping the mandate with no explanation) now, then 20 or 30 or 100 years later when the next pandemic hits, they won't have a clearly established precedent stopping them from doing what they want.

[HeloDude]

In turn, the DoD then just says, “Fine…everyone back in masks”.  Maybe?  Who knows.

[MCO]

6 hours ago, otsap said:

The judge in Doster v. Kendall just this morning certified a class action including all Air Force, Space Force, Guard/Reserve, Cadets, etc, and issued a Temporary Restraining Order prohibiting the AF from taking adverse action against unvaxxed members who filed a Religious Accommodation Request that is either still being processed or was denied.  The TRO lasts 14 days, DoD has 7 days to respond and argue against class certification.  At that point the judge either accepts DoD's argument, unlikely IMO, or more probably issues a Preliminary Injunction.

Curious how this works since for a lot of people the religious accommodation is acknowledged but then not having the vaccination is incompatible with service after the religious accommodation which is the reason for separation.

[dream big]

8 hours ago, HeloDude said:

In turn, the DoD then just says, “Fine…everyone back in masks”.  Maybe?  Who knows.

Good luck 

[BrightNeptune]

16 hours ago, dream big said:

Good luck 

People would roll over just as easily as they did last time. Med groups are still in masks and will be forever. 

 

[Sim]

"Safe and effective" - CDC/FDA/DOD

[skybert]

Got super tired last Wednesday and had a cough. Mama hounded me to take the test. Yep, ‘rona. 
 

 A little whipped mowing the lawn Saturday, but now I’m back to being my normal dumbass self.

[Sim]

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Recently, The Lancet published a study on the effectiveness of COVID-19 vaccines and the waning of immunity with time. The study showed that immune function among vaccinated individuals 8 months after the administration of two doses of COVID-19 vaccine was lower than that among the unvaccinated individuals. According to European Medicines Agency recommendations, frequent COVID-19 booster shots could adversely affect the immune response and may not be feasible. The decrease in immunity can be caused by several factors such as N1-methylpseudouridine, the spike protein, lipid nanoparticles, antibody-dependent enhancement, and the original antigenic stimulus. These clinical alterations may explain the association reported between COVID-19 vaccination and shingles. As a safety measure, further booster vaccinations should be discontinued.

https://virologyj.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s12985-022-01831-0

 

 

[brabus]

I’m shocked!

[FUSEPLUG]

Don't worry though... there are plenty of other sources telling us all how great these vaccines are!

 

[Standby]

People like this are allowed to vote…

[Sim]

https://www.sirillp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/077-ORDER-GRANTING-CLASS-WIDE-PRELIMINARY-INJUNCTION-c25ace314ba32f40f8c6e1dfce73437e.pdf

 

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The Court MODIFIES the Class as follows: All active-duty, active reserve, reserve, national guard, inductees, and appointees of the United States Air Force and Space Force, including but not limited to Air Force Academy Cadets, Air Force Reserve Officer Training Corps (AFROTC) Cadets, Members of the Air Force Reserve Command, and any Airman who has sworn or affirmed the United States Uniformed Services Oath of Office or Enlistment and is currently under command and could be deployed, who: (i) submitted a religious accommodation request to the Air Force from the Air Force 1 s COVID-19 vaccination requirement, where the request was submitted or was pending, from September 1, 2021 to the present; (ii) were confirmed as having had a sincerely held religious belief substantially burdened by the Air Force's COVID19 vaccination requirement by or through Air Force Chaplains; and (iii) either had their requested accommodation denied or have not had action on that request. Excluded from this definition shall be any person within the above class who: (i) opts out, by delivering notice to the Government and Class Counsel in writing of their election to opt out, by electronic mail addresses to be filed with Court.

 

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Defendants, and their officers, agents, servants, employees, and attorneys, and other people acting in concert or participation with them, who receive notice of this preliminary injunction, are PRELIMINARILY ENJOINED from: (i) taking, furthering, or continuing any disciplinary or separation measures against the members of the Class for their refusal to receive the COVID-19 vaccine, while keeping in place the current temporary exemption; such disciplinary or separation measures include, but are not limited to, "adverse administrative actions, non-judicial punishment, administrative demotions, administrative discharges, and courts-martial;" for the benefit of Defendants, this includes continuing any administrative separation or punitive processes or initiating the same

 

[LookieRookie]

21 hours ago, Sim said:

https://www.sirillp.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/07/077-ORDER-GRANTING-CLASS-WIDE-PRELIMINARY-INJUNCTION-c25ace314ba32f40f8c6e1dfce73437e.pdf

 

 

 

So does the 19 AF/CC grounding pilots that aren’t shot up count as adverse action?

[Standby]

1 hour ago, LookieRookie said:

So does the 19 AF/CC grounding pilots that aren’t shot up count as adverse action?

Tinfoil hat: do we think it’s a coincidence that the recent fleet issues crop up immediately after the injunction update? 

Edited July 28, 2022 by Standby

[ClearedHot]

Biden tests positive for COVID in 'rebound' case, doctor says

Double vaccinated and double boosted...got the Rona and Rebound Rona...

[TheNewGazmo]

Had the 'Rona for what I believe was the first time about two months ago. First signs were ear infection type symptoms with a low-grade fever (99ish) by late night. Tested and was negative. Had a hard time sleeping between sweats and chills. The next day I felt weak, exhausted with chills every once in a while. Took Nyquil that night to sleep. Day 2.25, felt noticably better without fever, but then felt tired again by night time. Day 3, felt exhausted again with a mild fever again. All symptoms were controlled alternating Tylenol and Advil. Decided to test again; positive. Day 4, felt like a million bucks with no symptoms. Never really got a cough. Symptoms never came back. My wife's parents both got it on Day 3 and Day 6, assuming from me, and were over it in about 3-4 days as well. My FiL is 86. Overall, I have felt worse with some colds and the flu.

[FUSEPLUG]

[TheNewGazmo]

Yes, almost twice, but I was able to resuscitate myself by drinking....

[brabus]

According to DAL’s chief health officer (impressive med background), the new strain is weaker than the traditional flu. So yeah, everyone move on with life and stop buying into the bullshit. 

[StoleIt]

2 hours ago, brabus said:

According to DAL’s chief health officer (impressive med background), the new strain is weaker than the traditional flu. So yeah, everyone move on with life and stop buying into the bullshit. 

What letter we on these days? Zulu?

(Seriously though, is there a name for the new strain?)

[brabus]

B5 currently, soon to be followed by Donkey Punch Pox. Heard that one will be a real pain in the ass!

[Sim]

[Biff_T]

On 7/25/2022 at 7:43 PM, Standby said:

People like this are allowed to vote…

They should make a batch of covid tests that always pop positive.  

That would keep a lot of idiots from leaving their covid caves (homes). 

I feel like I could start another Jonestown for all the dumbasses in the USA and solve a few of our country's problems with a good batch of kool-aid (This is obviously a joke, I am not an advocate for mass murder...or am I?).

[arg]

https://abcnews.go.com/Health/wireStory/fda-home-tests-exposed-covid-boost-accuracy-88259682