Quote

More troubling, vaccinated toddlers in Pfizer’s trial were more likely to get severely ill with Covid than those who received a placebo. Pfizer claimed most severe cases weren’t “clinically significant,” whatever that means, but this was all the more reason that the FDA should have required a longer follow-up before authorizing the vaccine.

https://archive.ph/9AWJO#selection-4475.0-4475.342

Which base will be the first to bring back masks this fall?

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

Which base will be the first to bring back masks this fall?

Have any bases brought them back now?  Several bases are in counties that meet the CDC's definition of "High" Community Level.  For example, Maricopa in AZ.  Anyone at Luke?

DoD policy, as far as I can find, is to match CDC Community Level recommendations.

Buckley has them back now and has for a couple weeks.

11 minutes ago, Danger41 said:

Buckley has them back now and has for a couple weeks.

 

 

And people are actually wearing them?  Even on the the Guard side?

8 minutes ago, SocialD said:

 

 

And people are actually wearing them?  Even on the the Guard side?

Denver has definitely got a sizable contingent of mask zealots. I’d say Buckley participation is not nearly that zealous, but the official policy is for indoor wear. Last I saw from the Redeyes they were running around in loin cloths and throwing spears at the monster rabbits running around the back gate. Nary a mask in sight.

I was at Nellis last week at a ceremony. Mask nazis out in full force including a fat shoe clerk that went out of her way to complain to management at the class six that I wasn’t masked when I walked in not knowing I needed one.

Just insane. No mandates at Luke except in med group. If I need to wear a mask to work, I’ll work from home when not flying = pool day like all the shoe clerks during the pandemic.

3 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

Which base will be the first to bring back masks this fall?

What’s going on this fall?..

Seasonal COVID 

Next variant release date

4 hours ago, Guardian said:

Next variant release date

Going to happen, so why not take bets?  Interesting factor(s) include: November elections.  Gentlemen place your bets now.

Here in Chicagoland, our most recent indoor mask mandate ran from 17 Aug 21 to 28 Feb 22.  It was lifted citing drops in "key metrics" including hospitalizations and case numbers.

I assume mask mandates will return this winter.  They'll want to wait until after the midterm elections on Nov 8, so I'd wager sometime around Thanksgiving.

They seem to be paving the way already.  Our "COVID-19 Community Level" was raised to "High" by the CDC on 27 May 22.  As part of being rated "High," indoor mask wearing is "strongly recommended," but not required.   However, the city has stated: "Major mitigation changes (e.g. citywide indoor mask mandates) will be made based specifically on City of Chicago's COVID-19 hospital burden rather than the federally defined Health Service Area."

So, as soon as hospitalization rated tick up in the winter (as they have in the past), I assume indoor mask mandates will return.

Not to worry, the city has provided handy guidance (copied below).  Remember, it's important to get your vaccine.

I mean booster.

I mean second booster.

I mean, just make sure you stay "up to date" on your vaccine........

Also, good news, vaccinations are available for Chicagoans as young as 6 months.  Hurry up, Mom and Dad, get the kiddo out there to get their shots.........

Bexar County (San Antonio) is also "high," yet we remain at HPCON Alpha (no masks required).

I sure as hell am not going to ask about it!

Wow happened a lot sooner than I thought! I believe it’s legit…just went to barksdales fb page. Incredible 

13 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

Going to happen, so why not take bets?  Interesting factor(s) include: November elections.  Gentlemen place your bets now.

This is what I was alluding to.  The short attention span’s interest of the American public is fading away with regards to Ukraine…in need for another distraction prior to the election (not that Ukraine was intentional, just happenstance).  

22 hours ago, GrndPndr said:

Going to happen, so why not take bets?  Interesting factor(s) include: November elections.  Gentlemen place your bets now.

Curious: I’m assuming you believe that the Democrats will “release” a new variant prior to the midterms. Can someone please explain to me how this would help them? Nobody actually likes Covid restrictions. People put up with them for a period of time because they believed those measures would help shorten the pandemic. Obviously, some believed this more than others, and some didn’t believe it at all. Fine. What’s done is done. The Dems are a lot of things, but they’re not politically ignorant. The idea that they will promote Covid restrictions to gain an advantage in the midterms requires some mental gymnastics that make zero sense to me. 

5 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Nobody actually likes Covid restrictions.

Lots of people like them in progressive states; never underestimate how many dumbasses live in this country. 

13 minutes ago, brabus said:

Lots of people like them in progressive states; never underestimate how many dumbasses live in this country. 

I’d go one step farther and say many left leaning people LOVE them. It lets them physically demonstrate their moral superiority

Guys, I’m a moderately liberal dude that is surrounded by people a magnitude further left than me. I don’t know anyone who enjoyed the restrictions. Sure, there were a surprising number of Karens who thought they were somehow anointed mask police, but even they were relieved when they could march into Whole Foods and sip freely on their double venti, extra pump, mocha Frappuccinos. Arguing that Dems actually want restrictions is like arguing that all conservatives are somehow racist. It’s a trope made up to convince you how different and “dangerous” the other side is so you’ll stay engaged and tuned in.  Don’t fall for it. 

2 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Guys, I’m a moderately liberal dude that is surrounded by people a magnitude further left than me. I don’t know anyone who enjoyed the restrictions. Sure, there were a surprising number of Karens who thought they were somehow anointed mask police, but even they were relieved when they could march into Whole Foods and sip freely on their double venti, extra pump, mocha Frappuccinos. Arguing that Dems actually want restrictions is like arguing that all conservatives are somehow racist. It’s a trope made up to convince you how different and “dangerous” the other side is so you’ll stay engaged and tuned in.  Don’t fall for it. 

You bring up a good point. But the mask restrictions don’t work, and there is only one political group who follows them mindlessly and demeans those who think critically about the many absurd contradictions in enforcement: progressive liberals.  

True of False:  Covid restrictions led to a decrease in voting integrity in some states.  

18 minutes ago, Prozac said:

Guys, I’m a moderately liberal dude that is surrounded by people a magnitude further left than me. I don’t know anyone who enjoyed the restrictions. Sure, there were a surprising number of Karens who thought they were somehow anointed mask police, but even they were relieved when they could march into Whole Foods and sip freely on their double venti, extra pump, mocha Frappuccinos. Arguing that Dems actually want restrictions is like arguing that all conservatives are somehow racist. It’s a trope made up to convince you how different and “dangerous” the other side is so you’ll stay engaged and tuned in.  Don’t fall for it. 

Where were the most oppressive restrictions? Who runs those states and cities? Are your far left friends anxious to get rid of folks like Newsom?

They may say that they don't like the restrictions, but their actions say otherwise. 

1 hour ago, Prozac said:

Curious: I’m assuming you believe that the Democrats will “release” a new variant prior to the midterms. 

I didn't get that out of @GrndPndr's post at all.

50 minutes ago, pawnman said:

Where were the most oppressive restrictions? Who runs those states and cities? Are your far left friends anxious to get rid of folks like Newsom?

They may say that they don't like the restrictions, but their actions say otherwise. 

You guys are missing the point. Yes, liberal politicians will continue to get elected in California. No shit Sherlock. 😉 Still doesn’t explain how re-instituting restrictions help Dems keep/gain seats in contested districts come November. 

You guys are missing the point. Yes, liberal politicians will continue to get elected in California. No shit Sherlock. [emoji6] Still doesn’t explain how re-instituting restrictions help Dems keep/gain seats in contested districts come November. 

You’re smart enough to see the point, you are probably just willfully acting like it doesn’t exist here to just act like you’re “right”: If it doesn’t bother the electorate enough to elect someone with different policies, then clearly they’re fine with the policies being enacted. That’s what they’re saying about which group has been in general instituted the most restrictive covid policies and why their voters must be ok with it.