March 26Mar 26 https://www.removepaywall.com/search?url=https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/signal-group-chat-attack-plans-hegseth-goldberg/682176/ “This leaks” Edited March 26Mar 26 by jonlbs
March 26Mar 26 That's bad. Worst part is that it was the person that should have known the best about what was ok and not ok to talk about in an unclassified environment. And let all the anti-Trumpers here take note that we are calling a spade a spade even when it hurts 'our team'.
March 26Mar 26 Denying it while knowing full well the journalist has the receipts might be the wildest part. Like how do your teams not come up with a better damage control strategy
March 26Mar 26 Oof I don’t get it. Fire the person responsible. Admit you messed up. Move on. NOW, after denying and lying about it, they basically need to start a war to make this go away.
March 26Mar 26 Link to all so far. I'm ok with him not releasing the active Intel portions, but I know some on this board won't agree . https://imgur.com/a/breaking-below-is-entire-transcript-of-messages-from-signal-group-chat-just-released-by-jeffrey-goldberg-atlantic-hkD7Cdm Edit - much like the tweet above, the title sucks. Edited March 26Mar 26 by 17D_guy
March 26Mar 26 As more comes out, it's bad. Leaves me wondering why? Why the details. It almost sounds like bragging. Sounds like something a junior NCO would do. There was no reason for it. He's the secdef, just say 'we're going to hit them'. The level of detail is gloating. Most of those people in the group don't know what any of that shit is anyways.
March 26Mar 26 5 minutes ago, uhhello said: As more comes out, it's bad. Leaves me wondering why? Why the details. It almost sounds like bragging. Sounds like something a junior NCO would do. There was no reason for it. He's the secdef, just say 'we're going to hit them'. The level of detail is gloating. Most of those people in the group don't know what any of that shit is anyways. Agreed. “Check out this cool shit” type of talk. Completely unnecessary and the players in that chat had zero need to know.
March 26Mar 26 29 minutes ago, LookieRookie said: The doubling down on nothing being classified is insane. My guess is that the blow-by-blow info on this Operation was originally being transmitted to the SECDEF by the COCOM CC via a SCIF/Secure Network and was in fact appropriately marked/designated "Highly Classified/TS/SCI/etc): It sounds like the SEFDEF might have officially screwed the pooch.
March 26Mar 26 My guess is that the blow-by-blow info on this Operation was originally being transmitted to the SECDEF by the COCOM CC via a SCIF/Secure Network and was in fact appropriately marked/designated "Highly Classified/TS/SCI/etc): It sounds like the SEFDEF might have officially screwed the pooch.I guess this is what happens when you nominate an Army Guard Major to be SECDEF [emoji51] They need to own the mistake and then move on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
March 26Mar 26 Author This is what happens when you hire amateurs. When Trump made these noms, our enemies cheered him on. Pete, a talk show type with lots of baggage with women, there's room there for manipulation. Tulsa, a flip flop, there's room there. When Mattis was nominated, our enemies shit their pants. The T2.0 cabinet, they laughed out loud.
March 26Mar 26 1 hour ago, ClearedHot said: Right... we get it..."lock her up". do it, doubt anyone here gives a shit (including me). would love to see the same disdain for the complete willful disregard of OPSEC here as you have for Hillary American military lives are literally being further risked due to the sloppy, apathetic, and general DGAF attitude of this admin
March 26Mar 26 18 hours ago, HeloDude said: Simple question, do you believe Tulsi wrt her quote below: “I can attest to the fact that there were not classified or intelligence equities that were included in that chat group at any time.” https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna197954 So, now we get to play “is she really that dumb” or “was she toeing the party line”. Neither are great options. 😬 To be clear, not in any way a spear at you, just furthering discussion! 🍻
March 26Mar 26 24 minutes ago, jrizzell said: I guess this is what happens when you nominate an Army Guard Major to be SECDEF They need to own the mistake and then move on. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk When his boss doesn’t admit to fucking up, don’t expect him to do either.
March 26Mar 26 Seems to me there are two different questions to ask. First, is the use of Signal approved for this level of classified conversation between these specific people (minus the reporter)? If it is approved, then that part of the story is now moot. If it is not approved, these guys have a massive problem and should be punished to the full extent Second, how did a journalist get on the thread? This was clearly maliciously done or was gross careless negligence. Seems to me that this is the real issue.
March 26Mar 26 Signal is not even approved for CUI, much less classified info. There's been issues reported on for years now about officials using signal for CUI. Pentagon tech boss used unauthorized app for official communications: watchdog
March 26Mar 26 46 minutes ago, lloyd christmas said: Seems to me there are two different questions to ask. First, is the use of Signal approved for this level of classified conversation between these specific people (minus the reporter)? If it is approved, then that part of the story is now moot. If it is not approved, these guys have a massive problem and should be punished to the full extent Second, how did a journalist get on the thread? This was clearly maliciously done or was gross careless negligence. Seems to me that this is the real issue. This
March 26Mar 26 Author 22 hours ago, tac airlifter said: Yes, that's what I want. The assertion is these were war plans for strikes that have already happened. If that's true there is no OPSEC issue with releasing them, and it would convince me to advocate for punishment. "Trust me, it's very secret and they should resign" is insufficient from the same person who pushed the Russian collusion hoax. That said, adding a reporter to your principal chat group is laughably stupid & incompetent. If Waltz did it, regardless of whether secrets were discussed, he should be fired. So now you got to see the texts. What do you think Trump should do? Hesgeth? All of them are stupid for playing on Signal. Waltz is the idiot that let a non-cleared person into the chat (blame it on a staffer, of course, weak dick asshole). But Pete is the dumb ass putting most of the classified in the chat. Do they deserve to remain in office?
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