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[Negatory]

No one's arguing that those BLM rioters are pieces of shit. No one. That's not the point.

A key difference between the two is that the president of the United States was not the figurehead, orator, and leader sparking any of those riots.

[Pooter]

3 minutes ago, M2 said:

No, what's happening in DC right now is not right or justified; but calling this "protesting" wasn't either!

You're right. They're pretty much the same thing. So no doubt we can expect the exact same level of condemnation from you right?

[slackline]

Nevermind

[M2]

1 minute ago, Pooter said:

You're right. They're pretty much the same thing. So no doubt we can expect the exact same level of condemnation from you right?

Abso-fucking-lutely!

[M2]

1 minute ago, slackline said:

Agreed. But you’re not being intellectually honest here, there were way more peaceful protests than there were riots.

Same could be claimed for what's going on today, as evident below; but we all know we're being fed BS when it comes to "news" reporting...

[DosXX]

*Cue curb your enthusiasm*

When the grifting goes too far

[M2]

2 hours ago, Negatory said:

No one's arguing that those BLM rioters are pieces of shit. No one. That's not the point.

A key difference between the two is that the president of the United States was not the figurehead, orator, and leader sparking any of those riots.

Not arguing that Trump isn't the instigator in today's acts, and it's a shit move on his part (but not unexpected); but there were a lot of elected officials who sat on their asses and allowed the BLM, ANTIFA and other "protests" to occur...

[HU&W]

Reichstag fire?

[slackline]

Same could be claimed for what's going on today, as evident below; but we all know we're being fed BS when it comes to "news" reporting...

Oh, and media is totally acting disgusting in this whole mess today. Totally agreed! You’re not the media, so I hold you to a higher standard .

All depends on perspective. Sen Duckworth (sp?) was interviewed and said something along the lines of, “no I wasn’t worried, this is the Capitol for crying out loud, not Mogadishu!” Some other D, forget his name, decided to go the complete opposite direction with his comment talking about how incredibly scary it was.

Let’s not diminish how serious it is by making it seem more of a threat than it really was. No real threat at all, but still a totally reprehensible crime and assault on Democracy.


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[Sua Sponte]

24 minutes ago, DosXX said:

Here we go with the whataboutism

Next up: Hilary’s emails and Hunter’s laptop.

[Clark Griswold]

Next up: Hilary’s emails and Hunter’s laptop.

Because if the son of George Bush got millions in shady business deals obviously peddling access and influence via family connections to powerful gov officials while simultaneously getting paid by a company in a foreign country in a business he knew nothing about the media, deep state and Democratic Party would have been cool with that too?


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[Blue]

Anyone else expected that the US Capitol would have been a little more......defended?

I mean, on today of all days, I would have expected the place to be guarded like Fort Knox.  Instead, it looks like the halls of Congress have been stormed by the clientele from a Waffle House.

[Clark Griswold]

No one's arguing that those BLM rioters are pieces of shit. No one. That's not the point.
A key difference between the two is that the president of the United States was not the figurehead, orator, and leader sparking any of those riots.

No - very powerful and important people made excuses, lied and shaded the truth about the violent, nihilistic and criminal behavior of their side

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/media/513902-cnn-ridiculed-for-fiery-but-mostly-peaceful-caption-with-video-of-burning%3famp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.chicagotribune.com/columns/steve-chapman/ct-column-riots-minneapolis-police-george-floyd-chapman-20200529-fm2w4j3ntvcwnkjexceyhbnjmu-story.html%3foutputType=amp

I don’t want a Reichstag Incident in America and I hope they go home


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[Negatory]

14 minutes ago, Blue said:

Anyone else expected that the US Capitol would have been a little more......defended?

I mean, on today of all days, I would have expected the place to be guarded like Fort Knox.  Instead, it looks like the halls of Congress have been stormed by the clientele from a Waffle House.

[jrizzell]

I haven’t been paying attention to the events in D.C. today, but based on some replies on the Interweb’s, sure seems to be a whole bunch of D’s are real big “Law and Order” types today.

Regardless of your motivation, we can all agree the destruction of property is wrong. And storming the capital while holding a Confederate flag, isn’t making the statement you think it is...

Edited January 7, 2021 by jrizzell

[slackline]

So, the lady that was shot in the Capitol today just died. Does the instigator in chief hold any responsibility? I’d say he does. He fired the crowd up, he said, “we’ll walk to the Capitol, I’ll be coming”, he said it, “will be wild,” and other crap. He got those Trumpkins so fired up they did stupid things. Inexcusable for a president to do that, to say what he said.

https://www.businessinsider.com/woman-shot-in-capitol-amid-pro-trump-protest-2021-1


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[Sua Sponte]

44 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

Because if the son of George Bush got millions in shady business deals obviously peddling access and influence via family connections to powerful gov officials while simultaneously getting paid by a company in a foreign country in a business he knew nothing about the media, deep state and Democratic Party would have been cool with that too?


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I mean, I don’t know why the Democratic Party would care about Kushner, but go off.

[Negatory]

Many of your guys' primary response to this f&#ed up day is to glaze your eyeballs over and just say "well, dems did bad things too, soooooooo." What was that Ghandi quote? An eye for an eye or something? Who cares, he was probably a lib.

 

[dream big]

3 hours ago, Negatory said:

Now they are reportedly shooting into the chambers. I seem to recall half of this forum claiming that only antifa/BLM protests were violent. Delusional.

No one on this forum claimed that the right doesn’t / can’t riot.  Most of us hate these idiots on the far right as they delegitimize our values. I would bet every Trump supporter in this forum, myself included, condemns this violence and hopes for a peaceful transition.  Likewise we don’t claim that the actions of antifa are representative of the mainstream democrats.  Groups should not be characterized by their worst people.  

[DosXX]

1 minute ago, dream big said:

Likewise we don’t claim that the actions of antifa are representative of the mainstream democrats.  Groups should not be characterized by their worst people.  

I'm glad you at least agree. But on numerous occasions there have been at least 2 members on this forum who literally believe Democrats and left leaning individuals on this forum were "communist". 

[Negatory]

13 minutes ago, dream big said:

No one on this forum claimed that the right doesn’t / can’t riot.

I literally remember this conversation. When you personally liked the post below back in July, it was probably a misclick, right?

On 7/6/2020 at 8:00 PM, bfargin said:

If so, it will be leftist for both occasions. I can't imagine any conservative rioting. Now as Brick said, if they come for us we'll stand firm and kick their teeth in, but we won't riot because it's not in our DNA.

 

Edited January 6, 2021 by Negatory

[slackline]

33 minutes ago, dream big said:

No one on this forum claimed that the right doesn’t / can’t riot.  Most of us hate these idiots on the far right as they delegitimize our values. I would bet every Trump supporter in this forum, myself included, condemns this violence and hopes for a peaceful transition.  Likewise we don’t claim that the actions of antifa are representative of the mainstream democrats.  Groups should not be characterized by their worst people.  

I’d love to hear from Sim, Seadogs on your claim.  

Edited to add this gem on the differences of how police handled the peaceful protests/riots for social justice vs a violent breach of the nation’s Capitol.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/ikrd/comparing-scenes-from-the-attempted-coup-to-blm-protests 

 

Edited January 7, 2021 by slackline

[Homestar]

This honestly seems like a watershed moment to me. It doesn’t look good for January 20th. 

[17D_guy]

Never was a leader, cared about this wonderful country or its people.

[Pooter]

32 minutes ago, dream big said:

No one on this forum claimed that the right doesn’t / can’t riot.  Most of us hate these idiots on the far right as they delegitimize our values. I would bet every Trump supporter in this forum, myself included, condemns this violence and hopes for a peaceful transition.  Likewise we don’t claim that the actions of antifa are representative of the mainstream democrats.  Groups should not be characterized by their worst people.  

And yet you still can't admit his words and actions directly led to the violent riots today. You're right. Groups shouldn't be characterized by their worst people. They should be characterized by their leader. This situation is just unique because those happen to be the same person.