June 21, 201213 yr Link: https://news.yahoo.co...-084104472.html Hrmph... Kinda reminds me of the Mig pilot who defected from N Korea... actually became a professor at ERAU in Daytona Beach. Ballsy move.
June 22, 201213 yr Weren't the Israelis 85-0 against those guys? If you suck that bad, why even have an air force?
June 22, 201213 yr A MiG-21? Maybe an Army Colonel will drive across the border in a Sherman Tank. It's about as relevant. If you want a MiG-21, there are plenty available, and it will only cost you about $50,000-$100,000 for a real nice one that is in flying condition... probably a lot nicer than this Syrian -21. Edited June 22, 201213 yr by Huggyu2
June 22, 201213 yr If you suck that bad, why even have an air force? Russians and French gotta sell their shitty stuff to someone, right? Plus, airplanes are sexy.
June 22, 201213 yr "Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported... ...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet," https://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622 Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. Edited June 22, 201213 yr by 17D_guy
June 22, 201213 yr If you suck that bad, why even have an air force? To bomb their own people. "Syria shot down a Turkish warplane on Friday, Lebanon's al-Manar television reported... ...Two crew were aboard the F-4 jet," https://www.reuters.c...E85D0IS20120622 Perhaps Turkey is looking to elevate the external pressure. Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. They said Syria already apologized, not sure this one will escalate.
June 22, 201213 yr Russians and French gotta sell their shitty stuff to someone, right? Plus, helicopters airplanes are sexy. FIFY
June 22, 201213 yr Who's going to fly that FCF?? You guys have flown MiGs that were acquired in much worse shape.
June 23, 201213 yr Relevance? I don't think anyone is looking to refurb it and fly it in airshows. The defection is relevant for other reasons. Yes, I get it. The Colonel,... the political situation... blah, blah,... Just having a little fun, making comments to draw comments. However... ... my point stands... Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG. Edited June 23, 201213 yr by Huggyu2
June 23, 201213 yr Nations still fly the F-4 as a warplane? Wow. Japan and Germany still do as well Greece, South Korea, and Iran also fly them as part of their combat fleets: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_F-4_Phantom_II#Operational_history Given our current political situation, I'm surprised any US flyers don't know that Iran flies F-4s (and F-14s for that matter)
June 23, 201213 yr You guys have flown MiGs that were acquired in much worse shape. Red Eagles: America's Secret MiGs Haven't read all, but it is some fascinating stuff. Given our current political situation, I'm surprised any US flyers don't know that Iran flies F-4s (and F-14s for that matter) It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years.
June 24, 201213 yr It's amazing to me that they can keep them flying with the lack of logistical support from us in the last umpteen years. Don't worry, their FMC rate is 0.69%.
June 24, 201213 yr We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a Tomgrape? We're already shooting F-4s in Florida.
June 25, 201213 yr I wasn't talking about Raptors. Is there any difference if they are all occupying parking spots?
June 25, 201213 yr Is there any difference if they are all occupying parking spots? Always quick on the uptake...
June 25, 201213 yr We need to send them F-14 parts so they can get the jets flyable before we kick anything off. Who's wouldn't want to spank a Tomgrape? We're already shooting F-4s in Florida. RF-4s are almost gone. On deck?? The QF-16.
June 25, 201213 yr However... ... my point stands... Had a Syrian Army Colonel driven an old, irrelevant piece of hardware across the border, it should have made about as much of a stir as this equally less-impressive-piece-of-hardware MiG. I think the kid could have walked across the border and it would've made news. The word "defect" by itself proves a point.
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