What's wrong with the Air Force?

[Majestik Møøse]

1 hour ago, go_cubbies22 said:

Another example of PA buffoonery 

They’ve since apologized for the mistake and corrected it.

[TreeA10]

They must have forgot that Coast Guard tankers are painted white and orange. It's a common error. 

[go_cubbies22]

2 hours ago, Majestik Møøse said:

They’ve since apologized for the mistake and corrected it.

Good for them, actually happy to see them owning the mistake instead of just deleting it with no mention 

[AC&W]

They must have forgot that Coast Guard tankers are painted white and orange. It's a common error. 

They also both float on blue surfaces...so practically indistinguishable.

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[Ryder1587]

https://www.laughlin.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2334934/enlisted-graduate-of-pilot-training-next-instructs-at-laughlin/fbclid/IwAR2u-gd8M2q6XbyoNQObkzu4j6Wch0LWKdRnG6UILbWI-yX_jQ6VlCvlPP0/
 

Feel like this belongs here. First I’ve heard of it. 
 

seems like the first writing on the wall for the Air Force refusing to fix their problems on the pilot side. 

Edited September 14, 2020 by Ryder1587

[BashiChuni]

“I value the job I have now because it gives me the opportunity to pass on the knowledge I have as a military aviator"

 

wut

[Sua Sponte]

What AFSC is he in? The one the Enlisted RPA pilots are?

[Clark Griswold]

57 minutes ago, BashiChuni said:

“I value the job I have now because it gives me the opportunity to pass on the knowledge I have as a military aviator"

 

wut

Persons under duress are often are forced to give propaganda messages

Edited September 14, 2020 by Clark Griswold

[sixpack]

1 hour ago, Ryder1587 said:

https://www.laughlin.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2334934/enlisted-graduate-of-pilot-training-next-instructs-at-laughlin/fbclid/IwAR2u-gd8M2q6XbyoNQObkzu4j6Wch0LWKdRnG6UILbWI-yX_jQ6VlCvlPP0/
 

Feel like this belongs here. First I’ve heard of it. 
 

seems like the first writing on the wall for the Air Force refusing to fix their problems on the pilot side. 

Just pathetic.  What a kick to the junk.  

[dream big]

PTN is not real pilot training.  Nothing stopping Ops Sq/CCs from keeping PTN wonders in MR training till they prove themselves to standards.  Sucks for the graduates as many probably didn’t ask for this but this business shouldn’t  GAF about feelings.  

[BashiChuni]

33 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

Persons under duress are often are forced to give propaganda messages

true. i dont blame him for talking to PA

its a good individual accomplishment actually. but in the bigger picture its blah

[LookieRookie]

4 hours ago, dream big said:

T-1 phase III is not real pilot training.  Nothing stopping Ops Sq/CCs from keeping T-1 wonders in MR training till they prove themselves to standards.  Sucks for the graduates as many probably didn’t ask for this but this business shouldn’t  GAF about feelings.  

See how that works?

[ThreeHoler]

It’s a pretty cool story. Dude sounds motivated and I hope he commissions and does well.


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[dream big]

2 hours ago, LookieRookie said:

See how that works?

What?  Zero comparison 

[jazzdude]

 Nothing stopping Ops Sq/CCs from keeping (NEW COPILOTS) in MR training till they prove themselves to standards.

Fixed it for you.

[FLEA]

2 hours ago, jazzdude said:

 

 

Fixed it for you.

 

I'm not even sure what anyone's point is right now? Do I just need another beer? 

[LookieRookie]

10 hours ago, dream big said:

What?  Zero comparison 

I wonder what people in the 90s said about T-1 training when everyone had only gone through T-38s.

 

The point is, pilot training changes.

[FLEA]

On 8/17/2020 at 3:09 PM, Tank said:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/14/trump-ad-asks-people-to-support-the-troops-but-it-uses-a-picture-of-russian-jets-414883

[dream big]

2 hours ago, FLEA said:

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/14/trump-ad-asks-people-to-support-the-troops-but-it-uses-a-picture-of-russian-jets-414883

What’s your fucking point? This was already posted a while back in reference to mortuary affairs, the original source of the patch.  Classic PA mixup but in true leftist media fashion blow it up into some Trump conspiracy. 

[Negatory]

Whoa sparky, calm down. The linked story literally had nothing in it calling out a conspiracy, even going so far as to say it was due purely to “inattention.” I think the point of posting it was that even the commander in chief’s office made one of the same mistakes that pisses off a lot of Air Force pilots. How can we hold orgs like PA to a higher standard if the CiC’s office does the same thing? Also, I’m positive this would have been linked if Biden or Clinton had done it.

[Breckey]

The DNC did in the past and it was highlighted.

https://www.politico.com/story/2012/09/dnc-apologizes-for-russian-ships-in-vet-video-081141

[Breckey]

In other news...

https://www.defensenews.com/digital-show-dailies/air-force-association/2020/09/14/the-air-force-launched-a-new-eseries-aircraft-designation-the-internet-had-questions/

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Aircraft, satellites and other weapons that are designed using digital engineering will be designated as part of the Air Force’s new “eSeries” and receive the prefix “e," Air Force Secretary Barbara Barrett announced Monday.

The move is mean to “inspire companies to embrace the possibilities embraced by digital engineering,” Barrett said during a Sept. 14 speech at the Air Force Association’s Air, Space and Cyber conference.

Service leaders — including Barrett and Air Force acquisition exec Will Roper — see digital engineering as a key enabler to reduce the cost and time needed to develop new weapon systems, using virtual modeling and simulation tools to design and test the product before a physical prototype is produced.

Boeing’s T-7A Red Hawk trainer jet will be the first aircraft to receive the new eSeries designator, Barrett said.

“The eT-7 is just the first in our vision of a long line of e-planes and e-sats,” she said. “For 73 years, the entire history of the Air Force, X-planes have represented technological innovation. Today, the e-plane and e-sat will join them in making history and ensuring airmen and space professionals have modern tools to protect our nation.”

...

The service also noted that the "e" designator is temporary and that “the program office will request the aircraft mission design series update to drop [the] 'e' [designator]” once the program moves into production, Stefanek said.

Isn't this exactly what the "X" and "Y" MDS prefixes were? Just call it a YT-7 and be done. This seems like pandering to innovation with a few more buzzwords thrown in.

[jazzdude]

Isn't this exactly what the "X" and "Y" MDS prefixes were? Just call it a YT-7 and be done. This seems like pandering to innovation with a few more buzzwords thrown in.

What confusing is that the "E" prefix already was in use for aircraft and has been for a while.

[FLEA]

2 hours ago, dream big said:

What’s your fucking point? This was already posted a while back in reference to mortuary affairs, the original source of the patch.  Classic PA mixup but in true leftist media fashion blow it up into some Trump conspiracy. 

My point right now is you might need to go smoke a joint bro 😂 

 

[jrizzell]

What confusing is that the "E" prefix already was in use for aircraft and has been for a while.

They made it fancy and new...I believe the intent is to use a lower case e...nailed it