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They could get rid of SOS and the service’s capabilities wouldn’t change nor would anyone worth their salt blink an eye. The only positive things I hear about it are trivia night downtown, stellar BBQ and drinking games, all of which I can do at my Squadron bar anytime. SOS DG was also a self licking ice cream cone of HPO production, many of whom didn’t have to do jack all to remain on said golden path. If they actually want to teach doctrine, keep it virtual with some reading material and essays. There were some good lessons like the promotion board exercise (which made many of us even more jaded when some of the nonners ranked the CGOC president who hooked numerous checkrides over the Weapons Officer.)

He was a complete raging asshole...but one hell of a pilot and an American hero. RIP

Ironic, given the push by the last CSAF and SECAF to give additional consideration to people with "instructor" duty in their careers. Honestly, in my community...the less time you spent in the jet, the better off you were for promotion and leadership opportunities. It was never the guy who stayed in the jet, did 3-4 deployments, and have 4000 hours that was SQ/CC...it was the shiny penny who did one deployment back in '08, then bounced from school to staff to aide to staff before coming back as a squadron commander with 100 combat hours and half the flight hours of the youngest instructor in the squadron.

Yea...unless SOS changed DRASTICALLY since I attended...there was absolutely no war fighting value in the curriculum there. Sure, we played the worlds shittiest video game for a couple classes...but at no time do I recall any art, science, or war talk. I guess Project X was still fun to do for a THIRD time. And drinking with classmates was good bonding. But overall...what a waste of time.

Every time Sim posts here, I think of this:

The whole thing was nothing but a typical AF good idea fairy experiment that does more bad than good. The Lackland GS-13 who invented the program was able to persuade the GOs to go along with this thing that morphed into a promotion and force shaping discriminator. Let's not forget the birth of the FACs who are made up of unqualified GS-6s that had more power over an airman's career based on how tight they want to pull on the tape or the visual inspection of the elbow angles. It was never about health, everything we do in the Air Force is about promotion first and foremost. How can I get promoted from this?

Sadly, our society doesn't put decent human beings into history books the way we do with assholes who have a major accomplishment.

Quit the woke BS, focus on populist positions. Look at infrastructure, building on a return to American-focused labor policy, etc. Raise taxes/eliminate the number of deductions. There’s a reason why so many blue-collar Democrat union workers voted for Trump. You don’t get those folks back with a shift to the hard left.

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I vote we rename it Huggy AFB.

*Airbus enters the chat*

At least one wing commander has it all figured out.

That’s not an accurate statement Pawnman. Every community pushes their shiny pennies up the ladder quickly (hence the push for removal of BTZ to try and slow things down so our O-6s stop getting crushed by their sister service peers on joint staffs) and we all have anecdotal examples of those folks. The majority of SQ/CCs in the Bone right now are on time dudes with anywhere from 3-6 combat deployments, no aide jobs, etc. I would also guess most have over 2500 hours in the jet.

Sure dude, if it weren’t for those asshole fighter pilots hurting everyone’s feelings, they would be able to process PCS vouchers in time, or ensure the DFAC was open for those night lines and mid shift maintainers, or not screw up PCS orders so bad, or screw up people’s pay, or volunteer at the CGOC while their flight can’t manifest cargo worth their lives. There is a reason for Brabus’s scorn, and while much much more than 10% of our non-ops brethren are worth their weight in gold, the nonner mindset is a thing, and it has nothing to do with AFSC or how close to the flightline you work.

Had a buddy that did a gig there as SOS instructor. Loved it. However, you're basically forgotten from your AFSC. Depending on the O6's that are coming around some even viewed it as "ditching the career field." You're busy just instructing, while everyone else is "leading." If you're career...why would you ever do that. Lets look at the bios of a statistically significant sampling of O6's and 1-stars...how many have PME instructor as a Capt on there? That said, Maxwell in 2017 was actually really nice. Hard to believe. Article pushes out some interesting ideas. It would make SOS more like ALS, which it basically is now. To claim the instruction there gets down into doctrine, strategy, or anything of lasting value is a lie. Other service school are much longer, and we just don't instruct the same way.

Also thought he was just an ass to everyone, but roughly everything in West Virginia is already named for him anyway.

I would never confirm this works, but when your tv provider and the company that owns the local channel don’t get along...it’s nice to have recipes.

Considering Texas modified voting rules and procedures in exactly the same way...it's not surprised indicted felon Ken Paxton is doing this. Probably to get a pardon from Daddy Trump from the FBI investigating deep into his taking bribes and abusing office. So was it: unconstitutionality, or hacking, or fraudulent ballots, or flipped votes. I guess they're hoping something sticks to the wall to disenfranchise millions. Meanwhile Lying Ted Cruz, with the ugly wife and assassination Dad, is offering to argue it.

Not to brag but - U.S. Cyberforce Was Deployed to Estonia to Hunt for Russian Hackers

I agree the waist measurement for the PT test is stupid, but is it really too much to ask that members of a military force look professional, and maybe, just maybe like they take care of themselves? I'm sure most of the talk on here about fit and fat is facetious, but I'm sure there's one or two on here that truly believe that. You can tie performance in the jet directly to fitness. If a fatty is an amazing pilot, he'd be that much better if he were more healthy. PT test is a yearly nuisance, being fit should be a responsibility you take almost as seriously as being proficient in the jet. Maybe, slightly less important, but you get the point. https://taskandpurpose.com/mandatory-fun/air-force-f35-pilot-life/ More generically, it's not just for the meat eaters https://hartzellprop.com/fit-for-flight-the-benefits-of-exercise-for-pilots/. Just because an ops guy can walk in, kill himself in a PT test to beat other careers in the AF doesn't mean they're taking care of themselves. If you think you should be able to be a fatty in a military uniform, I think you should check yourself. Not a PC view? Oh well, hit the gym. Oh, and for anyone keeping score, the Navy has more fatties than the AF. https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/09/03/navy-fattest-obesity-rates-across-services.html ***Slight hijack*** Brabus' comment about having "mental strength and a desire to win"...that about "90% of the non-ops people don't have" is stupid and wrong-headed unless it was sarcasm I didn't pick up on. Based on a ton of other comments on baseops, it didn't seem like a stretch to think that's how he feels about everyone not in ops. It's why pilots have a bad name. I tell my super-smart high school senior frequently, "it's okay to be the smartest kid in the room, just stop acting like it because nobody likes that guy!" What's the old saying, you get more flies with honey, than you do with vinegar. I know this is the "safe space" for a lot of you, but I sure hope that attitude doesn't manifest itself with the non-ops people you interact with on the daily. Having been in leadership positions in a flying ops world and a training world, this is one of the biggest complaints I heard about pilots, so while not super relevant to the discussion I thought I'd throw out a bit of unrequested advice. ***hijack over***

I'm tired of hearing the non-jingle U-S-ay-ay jingle, that's for sure.

Hope for the future; 17 year old girl gets PPL in spring of 2020, goes on to place second in a major STOL competition.

Not too many people understand you SLaCK. You’re all over the place, very emotional, and quick to judgment over assumptions.