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Not jumping to nefarious motives if you have more of the details...

Had 4 Kuwaiti’s in my UPT class (1987) 2 washed out, the other 2, bottom of the class, both got fighters in the KAF…… I flew the 1st Fighter Wing (F-15’s Langley) into Daharan 2 days after the Iraqis invaded Kuwait in Aug 1990….As we taxied in, there were rows of Kuwaiti A-4’s lined up on the ramp, with “Free Kuwait” stenciled on the fuselage…I asked why they weren’t attacking the Iraqi’s in Kuwait, and they said one of the pilots left for Cairo….

Some very interesting primary results from last night, Texas was ground zero: State Rep. James Talarico has won the Democratic Senate nomination in Texas over Lunatic Rep. Jasmine Crockett. She is the one who called paralyzed Texas Governor Greg Abbott "Governor HotWheels." Next up after 21 years in office Rep. Al Green, pushed out of his district by the new map, challenged Rep. Christian Menefee, who was elected to the newly drawn 18th Congressional District in a special election last month. Green has been escorted out of the last two State of the Union Addresses. U.S. Rep. Dan Crenshaw, a former Navy SEAL and fourth-term congressman from Houston, lost to state Rep. Steve Toth, R-Conroe. Crenshaw faced difficult headwinds — he was the only House Republican running for reelection in Texas without a Trump endorsement. Crenshaw has been openly feuding with former SEALs Eddie Gallagher and Sean Ryan. In an exchange threatened with some of "his boys at 6." It’s a similar story up north, where Dallas Democratic Rep. Julie Johnson was pushed out of her district and now finds herself facing a likely runoff against her predecessor in Congress, Colin Allred. Allred, who was leading the vote count but remained shy of the 50% threshold, unsuccessfully ran for Senate against incumbent Ted Cruz in 2024 and dropped out of this year’s Senate primary in December. Texas Sen. John Cornyn and Attorney General Ken Paxton advanced to a runoff in the Senate GOP primary. Cornyn, is seeking a fifth term and hopes to avoid becoming the first Republican senator in Texas history to seek re-election and not be renominated. Mixed results for Trump. He endorsed 35 incumbents, 18 won. He endorsed 11 challengers, 7 won.

Lots of possibilities that could lead to something like this that don't include nefarious motives. There are enough US on US frats in training and combat to not need jumping to traitorous motives to explain a mistake like this. That air picture was likely exponentially more complicated than anything he had ever trained. Very possible the dude thought there was a flight of missiles that were minutes or seconds from hitting his country and potentially killing his family and friends. I'd have to imagine that most pilot's frat risk math would change a bit in that scenario.

Not odd if the Hornet driver has some questionable loyalties... There is an effort to contain some of the details in order to limit the obvious bad press and political consequences. Complete $hit, rip the Fing band-aid off and call it what it is.

A legacy Hornet paints three E's and their TEWS isn't screaming?? Not saying reports are wrong that just seems "odd"?

104-3 ain't bad....

True, but the reason the aircraft was lost was not enemy activity or engagement.

https://www.wsj.com/livecoverage/iran-israel-us-strikes-2026/card/kuwaiti-fighter-jet-mistakenly-shot-down-american-f-15s-initial-reports-say-LNxcLizHKxbncWqJyqaU

Sooooooo……… does Boeing advertise that the F-18 is the only fighter to bag an F-15????

This is the part nobody wants to admit. The rest of the world **was** fucking us. If the last five presidents had been willing to use even the smallest amount of pressure to keep shit like this from happening for 35 years, we wouldn't have needed Donald Trump to come in with the sledgehammer. This is also why I laugh when people try to use pure tariff rates as a counter-argument to Trump's "reciprocal tariffs." Sure, our allies had relatively low tariff rates against us, but the protectionist measures they employed to favor their industries over ours were rampant and audacious, and until recently, largely unanswered by the United States.

Love him or hate him this is good news for America. Canada purposely and with malice drug their feet on certifying anything Gulfstream for Canada in an effort to protect Bombardier. Canada Certifies Gulfstream G500, G600

FBF has been going on for a few years. It started in Columbus in 2023 when I was there. It kind of works but it definitely has some kinks to it.

Not sure if we’ve discussed this in this thread but I wonder if this idea would get more traction if it were unmanned, optionally manned or certified single pilot (automated boom)?

Honestly after my time in the Middle East, how could it not?

That’s pretty wild to think about. Honest question, how could that happen?

It is good for the sport when FSU is good....seems to be a general sense of apathy as of late.

Seems like it takes about 20 years to return to the top. By my math we've got another 8 to turn it around...

I would only ever want to fly with the Aussies and Brits in my lane.

Report now saying the IDF just hit a meeting with 88 senior clerics who were electing the next Ayatollah...all 88 KIA.

Probably naps, mowing the lawn, and Class Six runs not necessarily in that order!

dude, i am so stoked for you brotha! congrats. any other alternates get word? hoping they are still offering slots!

The military aircraft had departed from the city of Santa Cruz and crashed after landing and skidding off the runway onto a neighboring avenue, according to local authorities. . Looks like the airport is in the middle of the town. "El Alto is the world's highest international airport, located at 4,062 metres (13,327 ft) above sea level. The main runway "10R/28L" has a concrete surface and is 4,000 metres (13,123 ft) long."(wikipedia) Looks like they landed in the middle of a hailstorm...

Confirmed...3x Fox 3.