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  2. O Face
  3. Springer
    Two WSO's in my class finished #1 & #2. #1, Roger Locher, had 3 Mig kills as a WSO. Couple classes after me DeBellevue, the WSO MIG Ace after washing out of UPT initially, came back to UPT and ended up flying fighters. After flying LL missions with any extra fuel I usually gave the stick to the WSO. On a 10 hr deployment from TX to Germany my WSO flew at least a quarter of the flight.
  4. arg
    I wonder what was said right after
  5. Boomer6
    VID_20250816_072939.mp4
  6. O Face
    I’m certain you realize we did the same thing in Tokyo Bay on 2 Sept 1945. Also made Mamoru and his delegation, aboard the Missouri, stand with their back to Tokyo and the Emperor to sign the unconditional surrender. All very public, purposeful, and emblematic. But yeah a drone flyover would’ve been super duper epic, sucks we had to fly some fully loaded B-29’s and a shitload of fighters over the palace that morning instead of a few MQ-9’s to project American power.
  7. brabus
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  9. brabus
    @ClearedHot You’re WAY off the path and massively misrepresenting anything I’d personally consider. Moving on…
  10. ClearedHot
  11. JBueno
    Is there a deeper meaning in the fact that he has an extra half finger?
  12. TreeA10
    It's been a few years since I instructed in the T-38 but the guys with flying experience, including WSOs (usually #1 in their class) but not Navs, did better than those with no flying experience. More flying hours in anything is better than no hours. No matter whatever you end up doing, once you get to UPT, how you did things that one time in band camp is irrelevant and annoying. Listen more, talk less.
  13. ClearedHot
    What other carve outs are there? Is it a sliding scale of citizenship, I think I missed that part in the Constitution? So if you have a job you get your 15th amendment. You need to make $25K to get your 1st and 2nd...you don't get the 4th until you make $100K?
  14. FourFans
    Who are you again?
  15. HuggyU2
    LOL, wut?
  16. Boomer6
  17. SpeedOfHeat
    I honestly don’t understand the implication here. “Power move?” How so? Trump: “Hey look, we have B-2’s and F-35s.” Putin: “yeah, I know. Cool.” Is the implication supposed to be “watch out, cause we just might use these against Russia?” Putin knows there’s zero chance of that happening. Besides, I think he’s probably much more worried about drone swarm attacks, like the kind that took out most of his bomber fleet, than he is about fat Amy. This is classic Trump. Using the military as a symbol of strength to try to mask his weakness and ineffectuality. Putin is going to get Ukrainian territory out of this, and Trump is pressuring Zelensky to surrender it to him asap. But yeah, cool air show. “Vlad, look at these static display F-22’s. Badass, huh? …..Now, go enjoy the Donbas.”
  18. Polar Bear
    Reserve helo units. Fixed wing is staying.
  19. Springer
    As I recall, gave rides in the A-37 to deserving Airmen when the Wg/CC and I would fly out to Bergstrom from DMAFB. No supporting unit cept Transit Alert. I gave the brief, strapped them in, and off we went.
  20. uhhello
    Thanks gramps
  21. brabus
    Obviously you and @ClearedHot have let your imaginations run away to the extreme with my musings. That subject is a full blown, separate discussion, and I was trying to minimize the thread derail. Obviously there’d have to be carve outs for those groups (and more). The main point is if you’re a lazy ass bag who has no reason to not work, but chooses to produce zero for society while freeloading off taxpayers/your parents, you shouldn’t have a say. You need to have some skin in the game before you get a say (excluding carve out groups). More nuanced than that, but that’s the gist.
  22. wikz
    I honestly haven't even tried to look at UH's AFROTC program because Im going to American Military University right now to speed up the college process and because it's cheaper. I can pay for the PPL out of pocket, but its a matter of how im gonna pay for the rest of the ratings after if I do go for it. yeah the economy is kinda f'd, especially in Hawaii.
  23. Springer
    A lot of good advice on this thread wikz. I went to the U of H (majored in sailing 😁) and received my private at KHNL through the 2 yr AFROTC program. Is that not offered any more? Thought about trying out for the 199th when they had Phantoms after my AF commitment but livable job opportunities as you know in the Islands are scarce.
  24. UPT-hopeful
    That’s a video game recreation.
  25. Justwanttofly
    Gents and Ladies Today was submission day. Good luck to everyone and looking forward to results!!
  26. jonlbs
    Think of how much better everything is without chicks. What good group chat has a chick in it?! Just boys being boys… and if we get rid of women’s right to vote. It would decimate the dems. I rest my case.
  27. disgruntledemployee
    Very dramatic/anti-climatic.
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