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8 hours ago, TnkrToad said:

I'll add:

- Plan massive tanker plans for OEF, OIF, etc., in the CAOC, while other tanker patches in WOCs build Night 1 packages for their crews and/or lead Night 1 missions.

- Deploy to CAOC (too often) . . . and talk really slowly to CAF/other users who come up with grandiose/unexecutable plans refueling-wise

- Plan large, refueling-intensive exercises, act as tanker SMEs in white cells, and/or lead exercise execution

- Command ARWs (100 ARW/CC at Mildenhall: two in a row are tanker patches) . . . although this is the exception thus far

- Advocate for maintaining standards/work to build & maintain critical skills, in the midst of an opstempo and leadership model that militate against developing expertise

- Build AR tracks where users request them

NKAWTG's assessment is accurate; those who volunteered for the WIC in the early 2000s in effect volunteered for huge arse pain. Aside from those who were clearly on the HPO track, those who graduated got the dual bonus of alternately deploying as aircrew or staff, followed by a deployment to the CAOC as a tanker planner, followed by another aircrew/deployed staff requirement . . . ad nauseum. Making oneself more eligible for deployments was hardly a selling point for the WIC early on.

I'd say we're past that stage at this point; enough tanker patches to spread the wealth a bit more, and folks have a better idea what they bring to the fight.

TT

Is a tanker patch that does all that kind of like a Bigfoot sighting? 

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I stand in awe of how hard that must be!

I was apparently too subtle...it was a swipe against those who quipped about tanker dudes building tracks in the middle of the weather.

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10 hours ago, TnkrToad said:

I'd say we're past that stage at this point; enough tanker patches to spread the wealth a bit more, and folks have a better idea what they bring to the fight.

Besides gas? :beer: 

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On ‎10‎/‎19‎/‎2017 at 5:26 PM, MCO said:

Well played.

There's a story here that many on this forum are oblivious to....

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13 hours ago, 3PAARO said:

There's a story here that many on this forum are oblivious to....

There are many stories regarding said individual, and most will make you cringe.

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23 minutes ago, Spinner said:

There are many stories regarding said individual, and most will make you cringe.

Do tell!

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On 10/19/2017 at 7:46 PM, TnkrToad said:


I was apparently too subtle...it was a swipe against those who quipped about tanker dudes building tracks in the middle of the weather.

Meh, I've built tanker tracks in the middle of the ocean as a non patch fighter guy.  The patches plan wars, at least I think that was the original long term intent of patches, and tanker dudes need a seat at the table along with the rest of them.  

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1 minute ago, matmacwc said:

 The patches plan wars, at least I think that was the original long term intent of patches

In the MAF they also exec.

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On 10/22/2017 at 4:38 AM, RTB said:

Do tell!

No real stories...but sometimes individuals tend to suck at aviation.  That’s okay, not everyone can be Chuck Yeager.  However, one has to question when said individual spends 99% of their time volunteering at high visibility “diversity events,” instead of doing their job as a pilot.  Said individual (3 different aircraft and didn’t make it to instructor in any aircraft) gets promoted and awarded despite multiple safety of flight incidents and busted checkrides while individuals who hacked the mission and were solid instructors were casted aside because they didn’t play Big Blue’s game.  Nothing new here. 

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No real stories...but sometimes individuals tend to suck at aviation.  That’s okay, not everyone can be Chuck Yeager.  However, one has to question when said individual spends 99% of their time volunteering at high visibility “diversity events,” instead of doing their job as a pilot.  Said individual (3 different aircraft and didn’t make it to instructor in any aircraft) gets promoted and awarded despite multiple safety of flight incidents and busted checkrides while individuals who hacked the mission and were solid instructors were casted aside because they didn’t play Big Blue’s game.  Nothing new here. 

Sounds like an ideal USAF Officer/Pilot to me. Exactly what they are looking for. 0% chance she bails for the airlines.
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16 hours ago, 08Dawg said:

New CAF Wifi...worst trade deal in the history of trade deals, maybe ever...

They actually did it?  It was "two weeks out" eight months ago.  I thought it died off.

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4 hours ago, raimius said:

They actually did it?  It was "two weeks out" eight months ago.  I thought it died off.

They did, and it sucks....long live MoraleNet

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On 10/23/2017 at 6:53 PM, dream big said:

No real stories...but sometimes individuals tend to suck at aviation.  That’s okay, not everyone can be Chuck Yeager.  However, one has to question when said individual spends 99% of their time volunteering at high visibility “diversity events,” instead of doing their job as a pilot.  Said individual (3 different aircraft and didn’t make it to instructor in any aircraft) gets promoted and awarded despite multiple safety of flight incidents and busted checkrides while individuals who hacked the mission and were solid instructors were casted aside because they didn’t play Big Blue’s game.  Nothing new here. 

The irony of that award was not lost upon some of us. Sure made for a good laugh. If they only knew...

In other news, was stuck at the Deid for a few days last month while in transit back home. It was as if Oprah was there distributing shooter hats....you get a shooter hat....and you get a shooter hat....and you get a shooter hat...

I guess that is what matters...

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1 minute ago, Guardian said:

Caf WiFi? Shooter hat? Morale net? What is that?

I guess Midnight Hot means nothing to you?

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15 minutes ago, nunya said:

I guess Midnight Hot means nothing to you?

Long live Midnight Hot. How that was some of the highlights of being up late over there. 

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Shooter hat? I remember midnight hot but that was 10 years back. I can't even imagine that being allowed today.

Go with explanations of others please.

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