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  2. You sorta didn't answer the question. I don't want to put words in your mouth, but 200,000 is about where you draw the line. Less=unfortunate, but life goes on. More=Lock it down. Good news. You're correct. 65,000 doesn't have to be as high. The COVID response effectively eliminated flu deaths. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019–2020_United_States_flu_season So now let's say you get the vaccine and COVID is a non-issue. Are you cool going back to business as usual and accepting tens of thousands of flu deaths as a cost of living? If not, which precautionary measures would you make permanent?
  3. Unfortunately, we have been living with flu deaths for a long time. What I’m not willing to live with is heaping another two to three hundred thousand deaths a year ON TOP of that number. Also, there are a shit ton of Americans who blow off their flu vaccines every year. Maybe that 65,000 doesn’t have to be so high either.
  4. Did you happen to look up the results for the states you listed? It seems like you're suggesting 10% is a "tight" race.
  5. Did you take these same precautionary measures 1 year ago? If not, what was your personal magic number threshold? 65,000? https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/preliminary-in-season-estimates.htm
  6. Is that where you get to find out where the G spot is?
  7. You’re certainly free to exercise your own judgement, just as the rest of us are. I choose to minimize my exposure because I understand there is a chance that I could be an asymptomatic spreader. Let’s say I attend a party. I’m relatively young, healthy, and do not regularly come into contact with high risk individuals. The partygoers are much like myself. But those people in the crowded room with me.....some of them will likely come into contact with at risk populations. Thus, even though I’m highly likely to survive, and I’ve taken steps to ensure I’m not directly in contact with elderly or immunocompromised individuals, I’m still potentially spreading a virus that is deadly to some. Well, it’s a relatively limited group of people at the party you say? Well, take that to a national scale and multiply by the millions of Americans who really want to get together (understandably, human nature) and you see why this thing continues to spread. The only things that are going to stop it are A) a vaccine, or B) it burns itself out and kills many hundreds of thousands more in the process. A vaccine that a significant majority of the population receives is literally the ONLY way we get back to anything resembling normal any time soon.
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  9. People who understand science and vaccines? Ok. Keep going to those parties. I'm sure nothing bad can possibly happen.
  10. Aviation isn't risky, it's unforgiving. People like you are why the future will look like "1984."
  11. Again... Baffling to hear military members engaged in such a high-risk activity as aviation suddenly unable to take a miniscule risk for the protection of their fellow Americans. I'll be first in line for the vaccine. People like you are why 2021 will look a lot like 2020 in terms of masks and movement restrictions.
  12. I see things haven't changed much in Russia/USSR since WW2 . Typically volunteers for vaccines in that AO are Shatrafniki's assigned to a Shtrafbat.
  13. Still replying to these jokers? I bet they aren't even pilots. Probably Gender Studies graduates.
  14. Still replying to these jokers? I bet they aren't even pilots. Probably Gender Studies graduates.
  15. I can post links too. https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/concerns-history.html If you're scared, get it. If you are concerned for older or unhealthy people you associate with, get it. Why should I buy additional risk, however small? I volunteer to buy some risk for some things, but that is and should remain my decision. Agreed. I go out to eat with my wife and daughter about twice a week at local restaurants (outside now, which isn't so bad in San Diego), went on vacation this past weekend with three other families, thrown and attended parties/get-togethers just about every weekend, and my daughter goes to the park about 3-5x a week because its good for her development at such a young age to socialize. Some people just give up their liberties more easily than others I suppose.
  16. Weird. I haven't been to a concert, but I've literally done all of those other things multiple times. I suppose the virus hasn't decided to lock the doors and turn off the lights where I live.
  17. https://www.consumerreports.org/coronavirus/how-to-know-if-coronavirus-vaccine-is-safe-and-effective/ It’s going to be as safe as any other vaccine out there. Even if you feel you are at low risk, remember, widespread vaccination is as much about removing your potential to be a vector for the disease as it is about protecting you from it.
  18. If we had better contract tracing I would be all for this. If there is one ICU bed and it’s between an essential worker and somebody who has weekly house parties? Sucks to suck but the essential worker gets the bed and the partier get to live with their decisions. Hospitals are already preparing to ration care (and some have started). Personal actions are not playing a role in who will get rationed care but I think it should. If we are going to scream personal liberty then the flip side of liberty (dealing with consequences) should play a role in who receives life saving care with COVID.
  19. I wasn’t allowed to say anything until today, but it's now okay for me to share that I have volunteered for the Covid-19 vaccine from Pfizer. The vaccine is the one that has been developed in Russia. It is in 6 different stages and I received my first dose this morning at 06:20 am, and I wanted to let you all know that it is safe and I’m ok, with иo side effects whatsoeveя, and that I feelshκι я чувю себя немного стрно и я думю, что вытл осные уши. чувству себя немго страо. Comrade!
  20. Life comes at you fast: Everybody talks a big game until they get a bad case.
  21. You have absolutely no idea what long term effects said vaccine might have - Forcing someone who is incredibly low risk to take something that could even potentially have negative long term effects is garbage. Should my 2 year old who doesn't even have a fully developed immune system yet be forced to take it? Forced vaccine equals liberty? No. And you must be flying some crazy missions in country because I never thought my 9 hour flights over there in an old ass Hornet were any riskier than an average training sortie.
  22. GrndPndr

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    Hamilton's got it, and will miss this weekend's race. Can't wait to see the alternate dynamic. Stoffel Vandoorne looks like the official replacement, but this is yet to be seen. What fun if they could put George Russell in there just for this race. https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12147781/lewis-hamilton-formula-one-champion-tests-positive-for-coronavirus https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/hamilton-devastated-to-miss-sakhir-gp/4919327/?ic_source=home-page-widget&ic_medium=widget&ic_campaign=widget-22
  23. I love it. You're "just asking questions" with some video of a cybersecurity expert for the disaster that is campaign trump, and I try to figure out if he's actually one because his claims are amazing. I watch the video and tell you it's bullshit, and what he's briefing doesn't make sense. Also, he's presented zero actual proof for what he claims. There's no information online about his expertise, and his background, as he presented it, sounds mad fishy. Spent a hour trying to find information on him, and listening to the video. But I'm just diminishing someone's career. Well played, troll. We're done.
  24. I like liberty. I’d like the liberty to eat at my favorite restaurant, to go to a concert, to take a vacation, to watch my kids play team sports, to throw a party, and many, many other things I haven’t been able to do in a while. None of that is going to happen anytime soon unless the majority of our population agrees to be vaccinated. Vaccine = liberty.
  25. Wanna take a wild guess as to why I might suspect that it’s possible you’re full of shit? 😂
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