World War III Updates

[gearhog]

Jordan cancels Biden's visit. Biden's visit with Egypt and Palestinian leadership also cancelled today.

Iran embassy in Syria tells Israel "Time is Up" as Iranian foreign minister flies to Jeddah for emergency meeting with Saudi government.

Edit: UN sanctions on Iran for the purchase and sale of ballistic missile and long range drones expired 3 hours ago. They are now free to provide weapons to Hamas, Hezbollh, Russia, etc.

US embassy in Beirut attacked. British and French embassy in Tehran attacked. Israeli embassy in Turkey and Jordan attacked.

Large protests in Jordan, Egypt, Tunisia, Iraq, Iran, Qatar, Kuwait, Turkey, Yemen, and Canada.

Meanwhile, the sharks are circling.

https://x.com/jenniferzeng97/status/1714343936204878261?s=20

Nice work, Joe.

Edited October 18, 2023 by gearhog

[JBueno]

Some crazy shiite going on. 
 

Let’s not forget our brothers and sisters downrange and their families stateside. Say a prayer, raise a glass, give them a holler…do what you do. 

[Bigred]

11 hours ago, gearhog said:

 

US embassy in Beirut attacked. British and French embassy in Tehran attacked. Israeli embassy in Turkey and Jordan attacked.

 

Source? I’m only seeing protests outside these embassies.

[RegularJoe]

1 hour ago, Bigred said:

Source? I’m only seeing protests outside these embassies.

Well I suppose since hate speech is now considered assault, then protesting at an embassy would be an "attack" ..... maybe???

[StoleIt]

As more and more information comes out, including from POTUS, that it wasn't the IDF who bombed the hospital in Gaza...at least Rashida is keeping up with her pro-Hamas talking points:
 

https://www.mediaite.com/news/tearful-rashida-tlaib-doubles-down-on-blaming-israel-biden-for-gaza-hospital-attack-and-genocide-at-d-c-rally/

[Biff_T]

3 minutes ago, StoleIt said:

As more and more information comes out, including from POTUS, that it wasn't the IDF who bombed the hospital in Gaza...at least Rashida is keeping up with her pro-Hamas talking points:
 

https://www.mediaite.com/news/tearful-rashida-tlaib-doubles-down-on-blaming-israel-biden-for-gaza-hospital-attack-and-genocide-at-d-c-rally/

She needs to burka up and head over there. Talk is cheap. 

[kaputt]

 

Now that is some blissful ignorance. 

 

[dream big]

1 hour ago, kaputt said:

 

Now that is some blissful ignorance. 

 

I’ll never for the life of me understand the intersectionality between the LGBTQ movement and radical Islam. More proof that leftists are brainwashed and incapable of critical thought. 

[Inertia17]

7 hours ago, kaputt said:

 

Now that is some blissful ignorance. 

 

[fire4effect]

10 hours ago, kaputt said:

 

Now that is some blissful ignorance. 

 

Indeed. I seem to recall several years ago that Islamic radicals in Iraq liked to blindfold gays and give them flying lessons off of multi-story buildings.

[Lord Ratner]

7 hours ago, dream big said:

I’ll never for the life of me understand the intersectionality between the LGBTQ movement and radical Islam. More proof that leftists are brainwashed and incapable of critical thought. 

Power dynamics. The entire liberal philosophy has been pushed aside in favor of a simple hatred for hierarchies and those at the top.

Since the top of most hierarchies (most, not *all*) in America are white Christian males, then the reflex is to side with whoever isn't one of those.

 

It works great until you get into conflicts between two groups that are both lower on the totem pole. Sometimes it's easy to tell who has more power in the match up, and therefore who is the villain:

Man vs woman - man bad

White man vs White woman - White Man bad

White woman vs Black Man - white woman bad

Black woman vs Black gay woman - black woman bad

Black Man vs gay Man - uh... Hmmm.

Muslim man vs lesbian woman - well... It's...

Trans woman vs lesbian woman - oh boy.

 

But once you realize the foundation of the philosophy is simply "power bad," you start to understand it, and you can predict the position they will take with perfect accuracy. It's a philosophy built from jealousy and guilt, but remember that the jealousy is always stronger than the guilt. That's why wealthy liberals will decry school voucher programs, but still send their kids to private school. 

 

Well I'm not going to let my kids fall behind while we fix the problem......

[Biff_T]

13 hours ago, kaputt said:

 

Now that is some blissful ignorance. 

 

Looks like they could only muster up four queers for that protest.  Most of the people behind them appear to be confused muslims.  

 

2 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Power dynamics. The entire liberal philosophy has been pushed aside in favor of a simple hatred for hierarchies and those at the top.

This.   

Its fucking comical how predictable the left "protesters" are.  Its like a bunch of children doing the exact opposite of their parents to be "cool".  They have no idea how much they love freedom.   Try that shit in the Middle East.  

[Vito]

As the saying goes, 

 

“Liberalism is a mental disorder”

[Guest nsplayr]

8 hours ago, Biff_T said:

It's like a bunch of children doing the exact opposite of their parents to be "cool".

This is a good observation and also a great reason to generally ignore ignorant student protests. It's a tale as old as time to be against "the system" and "whatever your parents think." Literally every generation since the dawn of time has done this, and predictably most people become a bit more reasonable when their brains finish forming.

[raimius]

2 hours ago, nsplayr said:

This is a good observation and also a great reason to generally ignore ignorant student protests. It's a tale as old as time to be against "the system" and "whatever your parents think." Literally every generation since the dawn of time has done this, and predictably most people become a bit more reasonable when their brains finish forming.

...but what happens when no one tells them they are being stupid?  (They become lawyers and politicians...)

[Lord Ratner]

10 hours ago, raimius said:

...but what happens when no one tells them they are being stupid?  (They become lawyers and politicians...)

Exactly. Conservatives thought for decades that they didn't need to engage with this nonsense because it wouldn't survive a week in the real world. The business environment would crush whatever college nonsense the students had picked up.

 

But it didn't work that way, the students forced their nonsense onto the corporate world, and now every major corporation in America has a DEI department. The pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction, but only after a complete takeover of the political and corporate world by this neo-marxist nonsense.

 

I'm still a little conflicted on Bill Ackman jumping into the funny farm and going after the job offers of college students, but it might be the right amount of punishment for some of the absurdist shit that college kids believe they are free to say with impunity. If anything, that's the biggest lesson they need to learn, that opening your mouth almost always has consequences.

 

I used to complain a lot that high school doesn't set anyone up for the real world, but now that college has just become high school part 2, we're sending 22-year-olds out into the world with absolutely no idea what they should be doing, as opposed to just 18-year-olds. The entire education system needs a reboot.

 

 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Lord Ratner

[Prosuper]

6 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

Exactly. Conservatives thought for decades that they didn't need to engage with this nonsense because it wouldn't survive a week in the real world. The business environment would crush whatever college nonsense the students had picked up.

 

But it didn't work that way, the students forced their nonsense onto the corporate world, and now every major corporation in America has a DEI department. The pendulum is starting to swing in the other direction, but only after a complete takeover of the political and corporate world by this neo-marxist nonsense.

 

I'm still a little conflicted on Bill Ackman jumping into the funny farm and going after the job offers of college students, but it might be the right amount of punishment for some of the absurdist shit that college kids believe they are free to say with impunity. If anything, that's the biggest lesson they need to learn, that opening your mouth almost always has consequences.

 

I used to complain a lot that high school doesn't set anyone up for the real world, but now that college has just become high school part 2, we're sending 22-year-olds out into the world with absolutely no idea what they should be doing, as opposed to just 18-year-olds. The entire education system needs a reboot.

 

 

Hense if students want a job in the real world they need to specialize in Human Resources, when I enlisted in 1980 I cannot remember if we even had a social actions office. Most AFSC's were male only and we were free to be the uncouth slobs we were born to be. 

Edited October 20, 2023 by Prosuper
grammer

[tac airlifter]

21 hours ago, nsplayr said:

Literally every generation since the dawn of time has done this, and predictably most people become a bit more reasonable when their brains finish forming.

Agree, and a great reason why we shouldn't lower the voting age to 16.... as one of the parties is trying to do 

[pawnman]

On 10/20/2023 at 5:16 PM, tac airlifter said:

Agree, and a great reason why we shouldn't lower the voting age to 16.... as one of the parties is trying to do 

Not rational enough to be responsible for student loans, but responsible enough to steer the country...

Edited October 21, 2023 by pawnman

[08Dawg]

3 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Agree, and a great reason why we shouldn't lower the voting age to 16.... as one of the parties is trying to do 

So you’re not mature enough to make an informed decision to smoke now until 21 because nanny state, can still enlist and get killed in a foreign land at 18, but you can make a rational informed decision about the future of the country at 16…brilliant…what were we saying about mental disorders?

[Guest nsplayr]

4 hours ago, tac airlifter said:

Agree, and a great reason why we shouldn't lower the voting age to 16.... as one of the parties is trying to do 

🤷‍♂️ yea I don't support that. I support 18 as the one age of adulthood for everything TBH...I'm not sure why you can be drafted but not get a draft at the bar. That being said brain development isn't really complete until like ~25 so maybe the car rental companies have it right...

FWIW let's do a maximum age as well! Just like some careers (ahem ahem airline pilots) have mandatory retirement ages, I'd say after your 79th or maybe 84th birthday maybe you should just hang up your ole voting boots and kick back and let the next generations run things. Hell, Catholic cardinals can't vote for a new Pope in conclave anymore after age 80.

Obv I would apply all this to office holders too...if there is a minimum age for federal offices why the F isn't there a maximum age?

Edited October 21, 2023 by nsplayr

[Guest nsplayr]

13 hours ago, Lord Ratner said:

I'm still a little conflicted on Bill Ackman jumping into the funny farm and going after the job offers of college students...

I think Ackman took things too far. Yea your words have consequences and etc., but man, having a random billionaire ruining your career while you're still on campus is some bullshiite man.

Not that I disagree with him that what a some of the students are saying is completely reprehensible, it is.

But I would also remind Bill that when he was an undergrad on the hallowed Haavad Yaad he was a) likely a huge fucking moron like the vast majority of of us were, b) certainly said many things others would find unacceptably offensive (haven't we all!), and c) didn't have some Reagan-era billionaire going Dick Tracy on his ass trying to ruin his future before he even got off the ground.

I guess forensic speech policing wasn't as easy in 1988 as it is in 2023, but Ackman needs to find other hobbies IMHO.

Edited October 21, 2023 by nsplayr

[pawnman]

30 minutes ago, nsplayr said:

I think Ackman took things too far. Yea your words have consequences and etc., but man, having a random billionaire ruining your career while you're still on campus is some bullshiite man.

Not that I disagree with him that what a some of the students are saying is completely reprehensible, it is.

But I would also remind Bill that when he was an undergrad on the hallowed Haavad Yaad he was a) likely a huge fucking moron like the vast majority of of us were, b) certainly said many things others would find unacceptably offensive (haven't we all!), and c) didn't have some Reagan-era billionaire going Dick Tracy on his ass trying to ruin his future before he even got off the ground.

I guess forensic speech policing wasn't as easy in 1988 as it is in 2023, but Ackman needs to find other hobbies IMHO.

I think the left has leaned into this canceling people for a long time, so I can't feel too sorry when it's applied to them. 

I'm sure these Harvard grads will still get jobs at CNN, MSNBC, NY Times...

[Lord Ratner]

9 hours ago, nsplayr said:

FWIW let's do a maximum age as well!

💯

I would say whenever you start drawing Social Security benefits, you're done voting. Once you become a ward of the state you have an incentive structure that no longer considers the long term success of the nation. All the conservative firebrands like my father who can quote the last 3 days of Fox News, but don't you DARE talk about reining in SS or Medicare spending, he earned that money!

 

I've personally decided I will not vote for anyone over 65. That puts the president at 73-75 after two terms, which is right at the upper limit of where you can be reasonably sure the person is still sharp. Bonus points for getting under 55. This is a new red line for me after seeing Biden and Trump doing their amateur acting troop version of Grumpy Old Men, Mitch McConnell taking some involuntary naps at the podium, and Diane Feinstein literally dying from old age while still voting on Senate business. No more.

[ClearedHot]

On 10/18/2023 at 9:12 PM, kaputt said:

 

Now that is some blissful ignorance. 

 

"If you’re not a liberal when you’re 20, you have no heart.  If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 30, you have no brain."

Although falsely attributed to Winston Churchill it is still a great observation.