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Some pretty wild video out there of a Russian jet attacking a target that either is a civilian residence or is in close proximity to civilian homes. 
 

Of course unsure if it’s legit or not and I saw it on Instagram, so can’t link it here. 
 

It’s probably floating out there on Twitter too. 

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14 minutes ago, ecugringo said:

Isnt Russia one of the fastest dying populations in the world?  I remember reading something like the birth rate is extremely low and in something like 40 years their population will be less than 1/2 what it is today?

I do think Putin wants to expand his sphere of influence into Europe and push the US out.  If the EU gravitates towards Russia for resources in enhances Russia's survivability long term.

 

I say again, not our fight.

This Administration has got to be seen doing "something" for PR purposes, but in practical terms, not so much.

Europe, particularly Germany, do not want to get tough with sanctions, especially SWIFT.  The jacked up gas prices are already spooking them.

If they don't want to stand up to the Bear, why should we?  We have our own oil and gas and could sell if certain policies newly enacted were reversed.  Screw Vlad getting the band back together.  If we act strong economically, we can beat him non-kinectically.  In a fight that isn't ours.

If we are going to fight, then it damned sure ought to be all in.  But will we?  Nope.  Should we?  Nope.

But the current clown show of Obama foreign policy II is going to screw the pooch.  Of that I am sure.  I hope to be wrong.

But something will go over the Russian line and we won't realize it, especially if we go cyber.  I know we don't talk about it here for obvious reasons, but if we poke vigoursly via electrons, I think we and the West will cry "uncle" before the Russkis.

Interesting to hear how this is Trump's fault and the invasion this week is the reason for the rampant inflation of last year.  With that kind of time travel at our disposal, this should be an easy win for us...

19 minutes ago, brickhistory said:

Europe, particularly Germany, do not want to get tough with sanctions, especially SWIFT.  The jacked up gas prices are already spooking them.

If they don't want to stand up to the Bear, why should we?  We have our own oil and gas and could sell if certain policies newly enacted were reversed.  Screw Vlad getting the band back together.  If we act strong economically, we can beat him non-kinectically.  In a fight that isn't ours.

 

Consensus in this thread does seem to be to let Russia shoot themselves in the foot on this one and just crush them economically. And yea screw the rest of Europe if they don't care enough to stop resisit and stop buying fuel from them. But I cannot say screw the Ukrainian 18 year old fighting for his country, and on the right side of history. We need to keep the javelins and stingers flowing...

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3 hours ago, Clark Griswold said:

Where the hell are all the do good tech & finance companies?

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1 hour ago, Tank said:

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Biden isn’t playing checkers, he’s playing Sorry!

Drinks on me for the boys that did this….

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Great work guys, keep them coming.


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One Ukrainian Flanker got away

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/heres-the-ukrainian-air-force-sukhoi-su-27-flanker-that-landed-in-romania-after-having-been-intercepted-by-romanian-air-force-f-16-fighting-falcon-fighter-jets/

Haven’t heard much about the Ukrainian AF - were most of their pointy nose jets destroyed on the ground, any air to air engagements or anybody know anything releasable?


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8 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

One Ukrainian Flanker got away

https://theaviationgeekclub.com/heres-the-ukrainian-air-force-sukhoi-su-27-flanker-that-landed-in-romania-after-having-been-intercepted-by-romanian-air-force-f-16-fighting-falcon-fighter-jets/

Haven’t heard much about the Ukrainian AF - were most of their pointy nose jets destroyed on the ground, any air to air engagements or anybody know anything releasable?


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Intel Crab on twitter is pretty good.  A bunch of un-confirmed first hand reports but better than FOX and CNN.  

 

https://twitter.com/ELINTNews/status/1496987322553876480?s=20&t=RUV9-7vdwjEXfyhAdKCKFg

3 minutes ago, ClearedHot said:

People down voted this post but they won't defend the mushmellow in the White House and his actions.

Mellow or not, almost everyone in here says they don't want us getting directly involved. What else is he gunna do? Seems to me like we're doing the best we can, just need Europe to not go soft. 

 

Also they need more weapons:

https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2022/02/24/we-need-as-much-stinger-and-anti-tank-weapons-as-possible-says-ukraines-defense-minister/

7 minutes ago, hockeydork said:

Mellow or not, almost everyone in here says they don't want us getting directly involved. What else is he gunna do? Seems to me like we're doing the best we can, just need Europe to not go soft.

It is not what he is doing now it is what he did the last 12 months leading up to this.  Dude can barely eat his oatmeal and prune juice let alone be the leader of the free world.

Significant discussion on twitter and Reddit about the Ghost of Kyiv.  Ukrainian pilot with potentially 6 kills today.  

For what it's worth, Russia has actually been invaded comparatively few times compared to most European countries in the last 400 years.  While understanding their thought process is important, it is equally important to not to develop Stockholm syndrome and excuse their attack today because Napoleon invaded them back in the 1800s.

3 hours ago, Tank said:

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You do realize you’re spreading your adversary’s propaganda for him here, don’t you? You don’t have to elevate a despot in order to voice your political displeasure. 

20 minutes ago, Clark Griswold said:

Post was updated An-225 not destroyed

Legit question, why would they not have flown it out of there? They really just thought this was all a bluff I guess? It's just a hunk of metal, but hope she makes it unscathed. 

17 minutes ago, Prozac said:

You do realize you’re spreading your adversary’s propaganda for him here, don’t you? You don’t have to elevate a despot in order to voice your political displeasure. 

Posting a cartoon by Gary Varvel, an American cartoonist at the Indianapolis Star cartoonist for 24 years who was inducted into the Indiana Journalism Hall of Fame and won the Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award is posting propaganda?  UFB.

Time to invoke martial law, suspend the first amendment and post nothing but support for our dear leader. 

10 hours ago, hockeydork said:

How many Americans wake up everyday and say man, I'd really like to go kill some Russians and take their shit/land right now?

 

 

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