Russian Ukraine shenanigans

[Best-22]

1 hour ago, BashiChuni said:

best-22 i'm curious why the down vote on this picture?

seems....immature to say the least.

 

it's not great that Biden's WH, his own sec state, and now the french president have to walk back his comments.

Because you rarely argue in good faith, and I disagree with the notion that if only we tiptoe around Putins feelings long enough then surely he'll stop doing bad things. 

 

Plus its been 2 days now and still no escalatory rhetoric in response, seems like it wasn't that big of deal

Edited March 29, 2022 by Best-22

[Prosuper]

1 hour ago, VigilanteNav said:

Was wondering if the IED would come into play...

 

Before the war we had Special Forces (Green Berets) there training Ukrainian's not to fight like Russians. If you believe all the talking heads in DC, they don't believe the Russians have yet begun to fight by not sending their best troops 7 dead Generals and a Col. ran over by his own troops later.

[DirkDiggler]

  Nice video of a T-72 getting schwacked by some sort of LAW.

[waveshaper]

3 hours ago, VigilanteNav said:

Was wondering if the IED would come into play...

 

After watching this short video - here's some very basic demo info: To me It appears that this setup is composed of one long det cord main line that runs parallel to the road, 5 short det cord branch lines that are connected to the det cord main line, and 5 main charges that are connected to the 5 branch lines. When initiated it all goes boom at about 21,000 feet per second. Enough said at this point.

[ClearedHot]

1 hour ago, DirkDiggler said:

  Nice video of a T-72 getting schwacked by some sort of LAW.

Thats close!

[FLEA]

Just wanted to announce that we should not be talking about WW3 anymore and we are moving on to honor duals in defense of your woman. Yay or nay? 

[FUSEPLUG]

15 hours ago, VigilanteNav said:

Not that I ever want to get shot down but if someone is going to do it... 

He also does eye makeup tutorials on YouTube.  

[fire4effect]

54 minutes ago, FUSEPLUG said:

He also does eye makeup tutorials on YouTube.  

And "she" has a manicure. Article in Cosmo "How I shoot vile Russian invaders and never break a nail"

Hopefully after noticing that detail I can still keep my man card.

[hindsight2020]

That's the risk you run vacationing in Thailand. oh but for the grace of god go I.... 😄

 

 

 

Edited March 29, 2022 by hindsight2020
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[fire4effect]

17 hours ago, waveshaper said:

After watching this short video - here's some very basic demo info: To me It appears that this setup is composed of one long det cord main line that runs parallel to the road, 5 short det cord branch lines that are connected to the det cord main line, and 5 main charges that are connected to the 5 branch lines. When initiated it all goes boom at about 21,000 feet per second. Enough said at this point.

Wow how many and how long for the Ukrainians to set that up? I can't believe the Russians haven't figured out that if you don't have ISR/surveillance watching the routes the other side will leave all kinds of little presents. The only other option is cross country.

[FLEA]

51 minutes ago, fire4effect said:

Wow how many and how long for the Ukrainians to set that up? I can't believe the Russians haven't figured out that if you don't have ISR/surveillance watching the routes the other side will leave all kinds of little presents. The only other option is cross country.

I don't think Russia has the megalithic ISR enterprise we have for those sorts of operations. Theyve historically invested most of their intelligence ventures into HUMINT, something they've historically been much better at us in. 

[Clark Griswold]

Worth a listen, analysis of current situation and some projections:

https://warontherocks.com/2022/03/a-new-phase-of-the-russo-ukrainian-war-begins/

[B52gator]

21 hours ago, BashiChuni said:

best-22 i'm curious why the down vote on this picture?

seems....immature to say the least.

 

it's not great that Biden's WH, his own sec state, and now the french president have to walk back his comments.

calling out someone because you got downvoted?

 

[Sprkt69]

On 3/27/2022 at 8:22 PM, ViperMan said:

For real? Sorry, did I miss the major news story that China has invaded a sovereign country (unprovokedly) and is shelling civilians in a criminal manner? I get China ain't our friend, but this comparison exemplifies "specious." Call me when China starts dropping cluster munitions in Taipai...I'll get on board with your theme.

Yes, for real. I’d recommend paying more attention to what China has been doing over the last 20 years. 

[arg]

23 hours ago, DirkDiggler said:

  Nice video of a T-72 getting schwacked by some sort of LAW.

My language is a little rusty but I think he said "I got you mutha fucka, and I hope I got yo mama too!"

[waveshaper]

5 hours ago, fire4effect said:

Wow how many and how long for the Ukrainians to set that up? I can't believe the Russians haven't figured out that if you don't have ISR/surveillance watching the routes the other side will leave all kinds of little presents. The only other option is cross country.

This looks like a very simple set up. A well trained/experienced team of four (plus security personnel) could most likely accomplish this task in about 40 minutes or so but there could be lots of other time - consuming task/variables, particularly if installing multiple electric/mechanical triggering devices, etc.  Keeping it simple = The team would have to do a detailed recon of the area/rehearse the plan of attack, prep all the demo material like cut the 5 det cord branch lines/sensitize all five det cord branch lines/check electric blasting caps/test initiation system/prep the 5 demo charges (example - M183 Satchel Charges/20lbs of C-4 each - which looks like about the approximate size of the charges used in this video), etc, etc. Next step - when the time is right the team gets to work putting everything in place IAW with the plan. Final steps/Command Detonation Mode - one person stays down range and everyone else heads to the safe area. Final hook-up takes about a minute or so = make a small hole in the ground a couple feet from the det cord main line, place the electric blasting cap/detonator (explosive end/nose down in the hole, turn the receiver switch to the armed position - most receivers have a built-in safe separation timer), after 30 second if the electric blasting cap hasn't detonated connect it to the det cord main line. Head to the safe/reviewing stand area, fire up the popcorn machine, and watch/wait for your target to arrive - then press and hold the transmitter fire button = boom.

[uhhello]

6 minutes ago, waveshaper said:

This looks like a very simple set up. A well trained/experienced team of four (plus security personnel) could most likely accomplish this task in about 40 minutes or so but there could be lots of other time - consuming task/variables, particularly if installing multiple electric/mechanical triggering devices, etc.  Keeping it simple = The team would have to do a detailed recon of the area/rehearse the plan of attack, prep all the demo material like cut the 5 det cord branch lines/sensitize all five det cord branch lines/check electric blasting caps/test initiation system/prep the 5 demo charges (example - M183 Satchel Charges/20lbs of C-4 each - which looks like about the approximate size of the charges used in this video), etc, etc. Next step - when the time is right the team gets to work putting everything in place IAW with the plan. Final steps/Command Detonation Mode - one person stays down range and everyone else heads to the safe area. Final hook-up takes about a minute or so = make a small hole in the ground a couple feet from the det cord main line, place the electric blasting cap/detonator (explosive end/nose down in the hole, turn the receiver switch to the armed position - most receivers have a built-in safe separation timer), after 30 second if the electric blasting cap hasn't detonated connect it to the det cord main line. Head to the safe/reviewing stand area, fire up the popcorn machine, and watch/wait for your target to arrive - then press and hold the transmitter fire button = boom.

  

Edited March 30, 2022 by uhhello

[slc]

Awesome..... EOD? Engineers?

[ClearedHot]

Being a product of and having served during the Cold War it was easy for me to say kill all the Russians when this thing first started.  As the reports started to come in and having seen the nasty side of war I actually had a small amount of compassion for the Russian conscripts who are mowed down like cannon fodder in Putin's invasion.  Reading some of the follow on like the article below...KILL THEM ALL.

Two Russian soldiers raped Ukrainian mother after killing husband as her four-year-old son cried

[fire4effect]

3 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Being a product of and having served during the Cold War it was easy for me to say kill all the Russians when this thing first started.  As the reports started to come in and having seen the nasty side of war I actually had a small amount of compassion for the Russian conscripts who are mowed down like cannon fodder in Putin's invasion.  Reading some of the follow on like the article below...KILL THEM ALL.

Two Russian soldiers raped Ukrainian mother after killing husband as her four-year-old son cried

Strategic E-4. This SOB put a target on all our backs. One low ranking soldier can have strategic level effects.

Mahmudiyah rape and killings - Wikipedia

[FLEA]

So Just War Theory is something we have all probably heard of but it actually goes much deeper than the intro level we get in PME or LOAC training. 

A key tenant of it that is written into the Geneva conventions, is the understanding in war that uniformed members are ALWAYS innocent unless they commit crimes in the warzone, in which they are guilty of the crimes but still innocent of the war. 

The only belligerents of the war are the states as sovereign entities, and uniformed members simply serving their country are simply victims. (Obviously caveats if for not following illegal orders but you get the general idea.) 

This is one of the reason Geneva only discusses two types of incarceration, criminal and POW status. In both cases there is an emphasis on humanity. 

Edited March 30, 2022 by FLEA

[DirkDiggler]

  Good video of a T-72 in its natural state.

[DirkDiggler]

Good video of Russian vehicles getting blasted.

[arg]

27 minutes ago, DirkDiggler said:

  Good video of a T-72 in its natural state.

I was beginning to think it's natural state was behind a Ukrainian farmers tractor.

[08Dawg]

13 hours ago, ClearedHot said:

Being a product of and having served during the Cold War it was easy for me to say kill all the Russians when this thing first started.  As the reports started to come in and having seen the nasty side of war I actually had a small amount of compassion for the Russian conscripts who are mowed down like cannon fodder in Putin's invasion.  Reading some of the follow on like the article below...KILL THEM ALL.

 

I got to this point when I saw the pictures of the Ukrainian family, including the mother and two children who were trying to flee and were killed by a mortar strike which seems to have intentionally targeted them.  I feel a small amount of pity for them being conscripted, but at the same time, events like the one you noted shred any pretense of that and make me wish fully for their destruction.