RTB Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Saw this on FB...have heard the pictures are legit but no other info... whatever the cause, it's going to be pricey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Napoleon_Tanerite Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayz33 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 So...you're saying they're hiring Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Rumor true. Low tranny gone bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prosuper Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 hours ago, RTB said: Saw this on FB...have heard the pictures are legit but no other info... whatever the cause, it's going to be pricey! So? Were the Navy guys impressed? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 2 hours ago, BolterKing said: Rumor true. Low tranny gone bad. Bolter, Any idea how far down the runway did the jet stop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BolterKing Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Bout 2/3rds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HuggyU2 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 A few years ago, a Raptor landed gear up when the pilot neglected to lower the gear. Do do any of you know if that pilot flew again in the USAF? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTB Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 55 minutes ago, HuggyU2 said: A few years ago, a Raptor landed gear up when the pilot neglected to lower the gear. Do do any of you know if that pilot flew again in the USAF? Yep, he did. Touch and go gone wrong. Reserve O-4 or O-5, sat for a while but went on to finish the TX then off to his Reserve unit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger41 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 In with the first C-17 reference. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobsan Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 https://www.flightglobal.com/news/articles/damaged-f-22-makes-comeback-after-six-year-repair-jo-444022/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SurelySerious Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 8 hours ago, Danger41 said: In with the first C-17 reference. See also: http://www.zianet.com/tedmorris/dg/bombers4.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzz Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I take it the 22 doesn’t have weight on wheels switch that keeps the gear from being retracted? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 I take it the 22 doesn’t have weight on wheels switch that keeps the gear from being retracted?I’m sure it does. Maybe this guy retracted and the door drag made it settle. That happened with a viper t-g a few years back. Not sure the -22 sequencing. Sad thing is, you can bet your ass this f-up will trickle down in the form of some reg for the rest of us. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/20129/f-22-raptor-came-to-a-rest-on-its-belly-during-major-mishap-friday-at-nas-fallon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Springer Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Unlike my F-4 pig I would think the thrust to weight is so great that once it lifts off it is going up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BashiChuni Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Ive heard rumblings of a possible engine failure on takeoff roll...obviously RUMINT noforn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WheelzUp Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) Density altitude can be an issue at Fallon, and I would guess that gear door drag and less than sea-level performance may have played a role here. Engine failure would also make sense of course. Edited April 15, 2018 by WheelzUp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-Dub Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Are the TEFs tied to the gear handle in Raptor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThreeHoler Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
di1630 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 Density altitude can be an issue at Fallon, and I would guess that gear door drag and less than sea-level performance may have played a role here. Engine failure would also make sense of course.None of which should cause a mishap on their own but I guess that’s why we have an SIB...or AIB here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahWeed Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 12 hours ago, di1630 said: Maybe this guy retracted and the door drag made it settle. Gear door drag on an F-22? Seems hard to believe 60-70K worth of thrust wouldn't be able to solve that minor aerodynamic challenge. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 (edited) 13 hours ago, di1630 said: I’m sure it does. Maybe this guy retracted and the door drag made it settle. That happened with a viper t-g a few years back. Not sure the -22 sequencing. Sad thing is, you can bet your ass this f-up will trickle down in the form of some reg for the rest of us. Door drag? Seriously? The F-16 flaperons start retracting when the gear goes up. If the aircraft is heavy and or hot with high density altitude you can settle/sink a little bit when you put the gear up. F-22 probably has something similar, if you’re going with that theory. Edited April 15, 2018 by matmacwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M2 Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 UPDATE from sources: "Info on the Raptor mishap at Fallon: The slide happened on takeoff. Appears to have been a left engine flameout when the pilot throttled up to take off. By the time he realized the engine was dead, he had already been airborne for a few seconds and raised the gear. The jet bounced for around 1500 feet, and then slide for about 5000 feet. They got it off the ground and on its landing gear last night, so the runway is clear. Chain is wanting it to be quiet still. It's very fresh obviously. But it's looking like the second engine failure on Elmo jets in a 7 day period." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeremiahWeed Posted April 16, 2018 Share Posted April 16, 2018 2 hours ago, matmacwc said: Door drag? Seriously? Ohhhhh... he meant gear door drag as in actually dragging on the runway. That could cause problems. As far as losing an engine at brake release?......... and not realizing it?......... lots to say but I'll refrain..... other than a general observation. You've got a kick-ass set of engines if you can't even tell you've popped one between pushing up the power and rotating. Just sayin' 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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