moosepileit Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Rumor- we are down to less than a handful of the traditional fly-away deployment ORIs. Maybe they are going virtual/telecon? Discuss/Confirm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 They are changing them to a CBT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialD Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Yup, the changed the name to CI's. Boom...OPR bullet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 Too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TreeA10 Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 What is a "CI?" Colon Inspection? Clown Interrogation? Command Idiocy? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ClearedHot Posted January 16, 2013 Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) In the traditional sense, yes the ORI is supposed to go away. It will be replaced with a CUI or Combined Unit Inspection that will have large portions accomplished online and internally before a team ever arrives, the team is supposed to be smaller and same work that has been "Self Identified and corrected" to ensure compliance. There will still an evaluation of a Wing's ability to generate combat power and how a wing gets out the door, but the ATSO portion becomes unit specific...makes sense for Korea, not so much for Altus. The genesis of the idea was the realization of just how many man hours we were wasting getting ready for not really in our job jar...then we were sending large numbers of inspectors out who wasted many more man hours inspecting those same innocuous things. Edited January 16, 2013 by ClearedHot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jughead Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 It will be replaced with a CUI or Combined Unit Inspection that will have large portions accomplished online and internally before a team ever arrives Any real emphasis on giving credit for real-world tasking when/where applicable to the mission set being evaluated...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SocialD Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Any real emphasis on giving credit for real-world tasking when/where applicable to the mission set being evaluated...? This isn't the real world...it's the fake world of the IG. Kinda reminds me of a story from a Vietnam era book. The squadron had to do an ORI, in country, during the war and they failed. Guess who kept flying combat missions. One of the findings was the jets weren't painted IAW the reg (sharks teeth under the nose), the bosses response was "Noted." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matmacwc Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) This isn't the real world...it's the fake world of the IG. Kinda reminds me of a story from a Vietnam era book. The squadron had to do an ORI, in country, during the war and they failed. Guess who kept flying combat missions. One of the findings was the jets weren't painted IAW the reg (sharks teeth under the nose), the bosses response was "Noted." I'd laugh if I was the wing commander and not give them the time of day. Edited January 17, 2013 by matmacwc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerkFE Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Holy S! I may come out of retirement if this is true. If the reflective belt factory blew up, it would be a done deal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Striper_WSO Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Any real emphasis on giving credit for real-world tasking when/where applicable to the mission set being evaluated...? This has happened several times. Just one example: http://www.acc.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123294316 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azimuth Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 What is a "CI?" Colon Inspection? Clown Interrogation? Command Idiocy? It's CUI now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nsplayr Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 What is a "CI?" Colon Inspection? Clown Interrogation? Command Idiocy? That last one is fairly accurate... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bergman Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Any real emphasis on giving credit for real-world tasking when/where applicable to the mission set being evaluated...? Our (AMC) ORI is in March and we just received almost 100% credit for it based on our real world contributions since our last ORI in 08. What was a fly-away ORE this month and a fly-away ORI in March has been turned into a 4 hour ATSO Rodeo with <100 players base wide. Talked with the CV last week about it, and he estimated over $2 mil in savings. Winning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slander Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Downside...it happens every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HercDude Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 As I understand it, you are still going to have to sit under your desk in MOPP 4 for hours at a time - the difference is you'll be doing it home station vs Gulfport or Alpena. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Techsan Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 As I understand it, you are still going to have to sit under your desk in MOPP 4 for hours at a time - the difference is you'll be doing it home station vs Gulfport or Alpena. I'll take it. (so to speak) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TacAirCoug Posted January 17, 2013 Share Posted January 17, 2013 Our (AMC) ORI is in March and we just received almost 100% credit for it based on our real world contributions since our last ORI in 08. What was a fly-away ORE this month and a fly-away ORI in March has been turned into a 4 hour ATSO Rodeo with <100 players base wide. Talked with the CV last week about it, and he estimated over $2 mil in savings. Winning! Seriously? Our ORI is in June and, as far as I know, we're still full up with fly-away ORE and ORI. How the hell did you guys score that deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buenos Diaz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 Our (AMC) ORI is in March and we just received almost 100% credit for it based on our real world contributions since our last ORI in 08. What was a fly-away ORE this month and a fly-away ORI in March has been turned into a 4 hour ATSO Rodeo with <100 players base wide. Talked with the CV last week about it, and he estimated over $2 mil in savings. Winning! Easily over $2M. I wrote the boss a talking paper about the cost of our ORI to turn in along with the request for credit for real world events. Without counting man hours, we were already over $2M. And I used those numbers on my OPR so they must be true. I was only succesful in getting PTF credit but I think the discussion for reducing the impact of inspections was already ongoing. Glad to here that it is finally coming to fruition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seriously Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 The last number I heard was 127 inspectors arriving for our CUI. Most definitely a waste of time and resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I wrote the boss a talking paper And I used those numbers on my OPR so they must be true. Wow dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaded Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I bet a lot of that was tongue in cheek Champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ Kind Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 (edited) I'm sure it was.... but we have all met those people that get just a little too excited about that kind of stuff. Edited January 18, 2013 by Champ Kind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buenos Diaz Posted January 18, 2013 Share Posted January 18, 2013 I bet a lot of that was tongue in cheek Champ. 2...thanks for the back up. But it is a good thing that ORIs are having less of an impact and the IG is willing to give credit for real world ops. On another note, I just found out Col Steve Legrand, AMC/IG, died in October from complications after surgery. I got to work with him a few times in 2011 and I believe he was one of the guys that got the ball rolling on reducing the ORI footprint. Great guy and I'm sad to see him die so young. :beer: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeyEng Posted January 22, 2013 Share Posted January 22, 2013 If this is true it's about time! Flying a C-5/C-17 to some off station so the crew can do nothing but run around in the chem masks all so the Wing CC can check off a box on his/her career requirement is crazy! During these ORIs I've never seen anyone actually practice on how to decontaminate a heavy airlifter inside or out to a level that the Europeans would allow you to fly it over their airspace! (after all they are terrified of Genetically Modified corn) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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