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For those of you smart on California compliant weapons...

what are your picks for:

- AR-type of gun

- full-size handgun for the house (not a 1911). 
- concealed carry. 

All must be American-made. 
 

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Holy shit, I almost forgot about this thread.  This was a recent acquisition while under quarantine (which I broke to get it!)...

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And before anyone gets excited, that M1 Carbine is a non-firing replica from Modelgun Company (MGC) and allegedly used in the TV series Walker: Texas Ranger although the guy I got them (I have a second one) from had no provenance to support that claim.

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10 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

For those of you smart on California compliant weapons...

what are your picks for:

- AR-type of gun

- full-size handgun for the house (not a 1911). 
- concealed carry. 

All must be American-made. 
 

Like... manufactured in the US but a non-US company? Or US owned and produced?

Because lots of SigSauer, H&Ks (etc.) are the former. Not a ton of the latter other than Ruger or S&W.

If you’re buying complete, (but I highly suggest building your own), all of the S&W M&P series are fantastic. Mine shot everything I ever fed it, and it was very accurate. Great customer service to boot. I have heard the Ruger MPRs are fantastic value, but don’t know if they are legal in the people’s republic.

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11 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

For those of you smart on California compliant weapons...

what are your picks for:

- AR-type of gun

- full-size handgun for the house (not a 1911). 
- concealed carry. 

All must be American-made. 
 

Full-size - M&P 9.  Mine is in 9mm (17 + 1 capacity) but they have .40 and .45.  I went with 9 so wife could handle it (sts).

Concealed carry - switched from Springfield (US company, Croatia manufacture) XDS in .45 to S&W Shield in 9mm, again to match what wife carries and the fact that the .45 XDS is a snappy sumbitch and I'm not getting any younger.  After a box of 50 at the range, I was done with it for the day.  Whereas with a 9mm, it's 200 + per session.

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14 hours ago, HuggyU2 said:

For those of you smart on California compliant weapons...

what are your picks for:

- AR-type of gun

- full-size handgun for the house (not a 1911). 
- concealed carry. 

All must be American-made. 
 

If I had to live in CA, i'd opt for an Fightlite ARES SCR lower with your choice AR upper. Any Remington 1100 stock will fit. Been thinking of getting one just because I have a few refinished 1100 stocks in my garage and I think it looks pretty f'n cool for a CA compliant AR. Made in USA. (at the Orlando-Melbourne, FL international airport to be exact). Fly in and check em out.

https://fightlite.com/

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On 5/11/2020 at 10:03 PM, HuggyU2 said:

For those of you smart on California compliant weapons...

what are your picks for:

- AR-type of gun

- full-size handgun for the house (not a 1911). 
- concealed carry. 

All must be American-made. 
 

An 80% lower and don't tell anyone.  Only half kidding.  

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On 5/11/2020 at 2:14 PM, Royal said:

It's time for a new gun safe, boys. Liberty or Champion seem to be the way to go based on my limited research. What do you guys recommend? Pros/cons? Any considerations that might not be so obvious?

Check out this website.  https://gunsafereviewsguy.com/  Definitely some things to be aware of before you buy a safe. 

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Anybody have a holster recommendation for a Springfield hellcat with a streamlight TLR-6 and rmr? Looking for an appendix carry with an extra mag (similar to trex arms sidecar or LAS concealment ronin). Havent had any luck yet so its starting to look like I will have to go the custom route. 

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28 minutes ago, TotableMink said:

Anybody have a holster recommendation for a Springfield hellcat with a streamlight TLR-6 and rmr? Looking for an appendix carry with an extra mag (similar to trex arms sidecar or LAS concealment ronin). Havent had any luck yet so its starting to look like I will have to go the custom route. 

If you're really set on the "Sidecar Type" holster I would go with Tier One Concealment. I carried in a Sidecar and Tier One holster for a few years but there's far more comfortable and concealable options out there. I've been using PHlster and Tenicor holsters for a my carry guns with lights for the last couple years and they're pretty bitchin'.

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That SCR with a rifle length wood handguard would be pretty.  I'm envisioning a free float handguard that goes all the way out to the muzzle of a 16 inch barrel, kind of like a manlicher fore end.  You'd probably have to glue the wood to a fiberglass inner tube.

 

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On 5/11/2020 at 7:03 PM, HuggyU2 said:

For those of you smart on California compliant weapons...

what are your picks for:

- AR-type of gun

- full-size handgun for the house (not a 1911). 
- concealed carry. 

All must be American-made. 
 

I’m super late, but I’ve been pretty happy with my Stag Arms AR-15. I gave the fixed mag a go, and the MeanLoader (https://www.meanarms.com/products/detail/ma-loader-for-ar15) hasn’t been terrible for it. Plus, I can have all of the furniture I’d like:

https://www.stagarms.com/stag-15/stag-15-firearms/stag-15-rifles/stag-15-tactical-rifle-16-in/

It’s also an easy fix for a gunsmith whenever I live in another gun-friendly state to make it a full, normal AR.

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Grown kids got me a gift card to a fairly upscale gunstore/range/boutique (Gawd bless, Texas!) because they were lazy and it was Father's Day.  Beat the hell out of a tie.

 

Anyway, went on Sunday.

Absolutely amazed by how barren the cases were of nearly anything that went "bang."

Same for ammo in most calibers.

Asked a clerk if they were closing up shop and he said, "Nope.  Riots..."

The light clicked on.

Bought 3 x .44 special boxes and called it a day that concluded with grilling some of Texas' finest beef and some brown liquor...

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Looking at the M1A Springfield SOCOM 16 model.  Anyone shoot one of these?  Own one?

Can you effectively use this weapon as a short close in fight gun...

 

Yes.... with a buttload of training.

 

Look I love my M1A but I’m realistic about what it is. It’s entirely too heavy to be a long walk through the woods hunting rifle, and entirely too heavy bang with low capacity to be a close in fight gun or provide rapid available firepower like an AR (especially in a caliber like 300blk). It’s a bench gun or a gun that gets stashed in a trunk until needed. And it’s need it fills is hammering rounds at a semi rapid pace in that 300-500 yard block.

 

The Socom is basically a really complicated/poor-method at making a designated marksman style rifle and you pay more for than an Archangel stock M1A precomp. It’s only advantage is “oh look how compact I am while still weighing more than any AR platform in similar performance.” It only wins a pro/con battle when it’s limited to other older style rifles (FAL, HK91, etc).

 

It’s a solid gun, and if you’re just getting it because its different and makes louder noises at a range than you would with an AR, go nuts. Otherwise get something else on the M1A line, and go into it understanding Springfield either makes a sub MOA gun or they don’t with every one that comes off the line. You only know for sure after you shoot a box through it.

 

 

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Smith & Wesson SD9VE

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(note:  not my photo)

With the current national shortage of both coins (why?) and guns (obvious as to why), one of these came my way due to a father-in-law deciding he needed a handgun for home protection in the midst of these crazy times.  He bought it at the Barksdale BX because A) it was all they had in stock B) he doesn't know much about firearms and C) it was all they had in stock.

I listed A) and C) above because I wouldn't choose to get this gun.  It's perfectly adequate.  But he wanted a pistol, this was all they had, so he took what he could get.

But then couldn't rack the slide due to arthritis.  

So after ensuring both he and mother-in-law could work the double-action, I traded him a S&W .38 for this.  And I think he got the better end of the deal, but if it gives them some peace of mind...

So, on to this pistol:

SPECS via S&W:

Caliber: 9mm
Capacity: 16+1
Safety: No Thumb Safety
Barrel Length: 4" / 10.2 cm
Overall Length: 7.2"
Front Sight: White Dot
Rear Sight: Fixed 2-Dot
Action: Striker Fire
Weight: 22.4 oz / 635.0g
Barrel Material: Stainless Steel
Slide Material: Stainless Steel
Frame Material: Polymer
Slide Finish: Satin Stainless
Frame Finish: Black
 
This model was introduced a fair few number of years ago. Even pre-M&P series, although the family resemblance is clear.
This was/is designed to be a very price point friendly basic defensive pistol.  
 
It meets the intended purpose.
The trigger is a loooooong pull and there are many reviews commenting on it, as well as trigger kits that can fix the problem.  I most likely won't be doing so as this is not likely to be a regular addition to the range rotation.
 
It's not a bad pistol.  Adequate white 3-dot sights.  Comfortable in the hand.  Magazines are good.  Too bad they aren't interchangeable with the aforementioned M&P9.  I would've liked that.
 
It's just...fine.  It went bang every time through 200 rounds (which is pretty scarce or expensive to find nowadays...).  It disassembles/reassembles fine.  Their are too many plastic internals for my taste - guide rod, etc., but that's how S&W kept the price so low.  With the exception of the current scarcity of any firearms, if you pay more than $300 for a new one, you need to look harder.
 
But it's new to me so it at least got a good going over (sts) at the range.  Not bad.  Not great.  Meh...
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The wife is inquiring about a handgun. I started reading this thread... Again... From the beginning then gave up. Many links are now no longer valid.  So..

Suggestions for a pistol for the spouse? I have rifles, no handguns, and was also thinking of getting something for concealed carry for myself. I'd like to simplify logistics with coming magazines or maybe just caliber If feasible. 
 

 

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2 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

The wife is inquiring about a handgun. I started reading this thread... Again... From the beginning then gave up. Many links are now no longer valid.  So..

Suggestions for a pistol for the spouse? I have rifles, no handguns, and was also thinking of getting something for concealed carry for myself. I'd like to simplify logistics with coming magazines or maybe just caliber If feasible. 
 

 

There are probably a million different opinions and options out there. I started the wife on a .38 special, my thought was a revolver was a good choice as she isn’t a gun nut like me and wasn’t going to be practicing clearing malfunctions n such in her spare time. Turned out it was a bit to much kick for her and she didn’t enjoy shooting it. I took her to a range and we tried a few different guns and she really liked the Glock 43, so that what she has. 
 

There is always a debate on pistol caliber sizes and stopping power. My personal opinion, a bunch of 9mm hollow points is enough to put down 99.69% of threats you/she may encounter in the US. 
 

I have several pistols from different manufacturers, Glock is about as good/reliable as it gets for composite pistols that don’t break the bank. I own several Glocks, I recommend finding a “Blue Label” dealer as their blue label guns usually come with extra mags and night sites, which I much prefer over their standard sites. My usual carry gun in a Glock 19
 

I have some higher end pistols from Sig and some others, they are great guns, but most are full size/1911s which aren’t always the best conceal options. 
 

I would ask her how she plans to carry, and go from there on what to get. Highly recommend letting her try some different guns out to see what she likes and feels comfortable with. If she don’t like shooting it, she probably isn’t going to practice or carry with it. 

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I am of the other camp on pistol calibers....bigger holes are bigger. 
 

a lot of the “kick” has to do with the weight of the pistol. A super lightweight “lady” gun (lady smith revolver in 357 for example) has a sharp angry kick.  An all metal 1911 does not .... and as an added bonus can be used as a blunt implement if you’re out of ammo

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"Never shoot a large caliber man with a small caliber bullet!"

But guns are personal, and you want something she can shoot accurately (shot placement is key!), carry comfortably (hopefully not in her purse), and isn't afraid of!

I recommend finding a range that rents handguns and having her try a few.  Some places have programs specifically tailored to new and/or women shooters.

Or go to a gun show and have her handle a few handguns to see which fit her grip and of course which ones she likes.

Or find a few buds with handguns willing to bring them to the range so she can try them.

I taught my nephew's girlfriend how to shoot.  I started off with a GSG 1911 in .22, then moved up to a 1911 in .45ACP.  

Lastly, but far most importantly, make sure she is properly trained on how to handle a handgun safely! 

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17 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

The wife is inquiring about a handgun. I started reading this thread... Again... From the beginning then gave up. Many links are now no longer valid.  So..

Suggestions for a pistol for the spouse? I have rifles, no handguns, and was also thinking of getting something for concealed carry for myself. I'd like to simplify logistics with coming magazines or maybe just caliber If feasible. 

Might help if we knew the intended use. Carry? Home nightstand? Shooting paper?

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22 hours ago, TreeA10 said:

The wife is inquiring about a handgun. I started reading this thread... Again... From the beginning then gave up. Many links are now no longer valid.  So..

Suggestions for a pistol for the spouse? I have rifles, no handguns, and was also thinking of getting something for concealed carry for myself. I'd like to simplify logistics with coming magazines or maybe just caliber If feasible. 
 

 

So "2' on all of the advice above from your post to now.

That said, wife originally carried a S&W .38.  She got an airweight for it's lightness but that made it a sumbitch to shoot and thus she wouldn't.  After about 20 rounds, I too was done with it.

At that time, I carried an XDS .45 and loved it. Small, thin, made a big hole in the target.

However, we both switched to carrying a S&W Shield in 9mm for outside the home use.  For her, it's a manageable recoil in a fairly light platform.  For me, it's a case of if we both carry the same model, she can use mine and I can use hers (sts) should that necessity arise.  Ability to swap magazines too.  I put night sights on both.

 

Inside the house, it's a scattering of other 9mm platforms in convenient places.

 

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Great info. Thanks for the input!

Guy in the neighborhood is retired LEO and will now be my go to guy if the zombie apocalypse hits. Easily 350 guns plus and a closet of ammo. Nice selection of handguns and he teaches a variety of gun training classes. 

MP shield and Glock 19 were favorites. 

I don't think she will carry although her school is asking teachers to do so if trained and willing. So, looks like nightstand for her but I might carry. 

She has a carry class with range time scheduled for next week and it's borrowing something in a .40SW for the class. I need to come up with a box of ammo. 

More questions:

Best place for ammo?

Any experience with Blue Label or AAFES Glock purchase?

Best carry technique for sandals, shorts and golf shirts?

 

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