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Thread bump. Green to blue guy here patiently waiting on my scroll to be approved... Almost at 4 months now. Anyone have any good recent scroll-approval timelines or estimates? Thanks!

So I put in the scroll paperwork with my local Reserve recruiter. Still really unfamiliar with this process....Can someone confirm this is a Reserve thing only, or would it apply for Palace a Chase or Front to a guard unit?

You have to be on the “scroll” to be able to transition from the RegAF to the AFR. Talk to your base in-service recruiter (ISR). It is very easy but it can cause a break in service if you’re not scrolled before you try to transition.

If you're looking for the pay tables. Pilots are paid at the 2181 (aircraft operator) rate. Click here and scroll all the way down to the bottom of the Occupation drop down. Then click on 0558 (0558A = Alaska, 0558H = Hawaii, 0558P = anywhere else NOT CONUS). Historically, wingman/FL started out at GS-12 step 1 and IPs started out at GS-13 step 1. As I mentioned in my previous post, they're now giving brand new flight leads GS-13 step 1 (with a tech bonus). If someone came off active duty with more quals (FAC-A/WO/etc..), and wanted a technician spot, some squadrons have been successful in bringing them in at a much higher step. Not certain, but I think we secured at GS-13 step 6 or 7 for a guy before. Each base/state is different so ymmv. If I remember correctly you moved up in steps via the following...1 year for steps 1-3, 2 years for steps 4-6, 3 years 7-9. That said, there are ways to step dudes up faster, but your leadership has to be willing to do that and there are some limitations on how often it can be done. From what I've seen with the this, is it can vary wildly depending on squadron leadership and state HRO. It used to be that our leadership rarely ever "quick stepped" (not sure of the proper term), but another Viper squadron in the state did it as a standard practice. As a technician you also get 48 UTAs, 36 AFTPs and 15 days of AT orders a year. These pay cards are worth 1/30th of your base pay + flight pay. If your squadron has an alert det you can also work that for some extra pay days. With all these extras, I think our techs are easily able to make an extra 35-50k+ on top of their base GS-13 pay. We do 4 day work weeks so that makes it easier for techs to make extra $$$. Also, our home station alert offers unique opportunities to make extra as well...without ending up like Fresno lol. If I were are young guy under the new retirement system and I could snag a GS-13 early, I would consider that over an AGR. With a step or two, the mil pay, current bonus and double dipping, you could easily be making over 150k as a young Captain. This becomes an easy decision if you plan on going to the airlines soon anyway. I'll take the extra cash now over a few extra retirement points (or whatever they get under the new system) for when I turn 60. If I were a guy coming of AD under the old system then I'd clearly want an AGR. Just remember that the taxman cometh with civ vs mil pay. I should caveat this entire post with the fact that in my 17 years in the ANG, I've been in pretty much every status you can be in BESIDES technician. I have just learned A LOT about it over the years and have seen it work for some.

Socialism is a system in which the means of production are owned by the government (which you stated). A capitalist system is one in which the means of production are privately owned. But clearly you have trouble identifying real-world examples of socialism, so here are some examples of things commonly dubbed "socialism" that categorically are not. Socialism: Nationalized health care (like the UK) Not socialism: Affordable Care Act Socialism: Publicly owned broadband Not socialism: Net neutrality Socialism: 100% taxes redistributed evenly Not socialism: <100% estate tax Socialism: Completely state owned education system Not-socialism: Free college for everyone I advocate for some of these policies but not all... Yet, over and over again, anything the Democrats want is called "socialism" and anything the Republicans want is "fascism." These words are now completely meaningless outside of an academic setting and have resulted in both the Democrats and Republicans thinking the other has moved radically away from center. So you blindly calling all taxes or welfare systems "socialism" is flat-out wrong, continues to polarize your own views, and starves the conversation of actual debate as you've demonstrated... Your basic premise for argument follows this typical formula: pick any topic -> call it socialism -> point out that socialism has failed universally -> reiterate that all redistribution of wealth is socialism-> repeat. Often, you'll create a straw-man argument and attack that instead. If that doesn't work, then you'll just resort to personal attacks. Classy. So here we sit. I've given some arguments for political topics like the estate tax and social security. You've given me, "That's redistribution of wealth, which is socialism, which is bad." You follow that up with more right-wing rallying cries against the Democrats. So who's argument is simple here? Because all I'm hearing is the same refrain repeated ad nauseum. We started this conversation before Senator McCain's passing which makes his farewell message ever more poignant. it's reread my posts over the last couple of pages then reread paragraph 7 & 8 of Senator McCain's farewell message. Here was my first post, if you don't want to scroll back through the conversation: Commence more straw-man arguments...

@hindsight2020 You seem to be quite knowledgeable, thank you for your input on the matter. I didn’t know that it's 11F rated O4 and higher ups that are short. I am in no way making demands, I am just saying I won’t let it go if they offer fighters. If you scroll up, you can see that I mentioned I am totally fine with serving in a heavy unit. Agree that it is timing and luck. I know I am late to the party, but I only got my citizenship and LASIK done very recently. I have always dreamed of fighters and would have loved to be that 18 yr old kid you mentioned. But please understand not everyone can be that kid who’s 22, fresh out of college and eligible to join. ETP is there for a reason, to give someone a chance when AF finds the circumstances reasonable using the whole person concept. I see that you’ve contributed a lot to this forum, but honestly find your comments about taking trash out quite condescending and disturbing. When I said I’d love to train on many airframes, I meant trying for a job like Test Pilot. And you can’t do such jobs being in the Guard. I am not a narrow minded person that you have imagined. PS: I did go to medical school and have a license to practice medicine in US. I am still not rich enough to buy a L-39. Lol. And I would take the trash out if you hook me up with a fighter unit 😉

If you could do it that would be just short of a miracle. I’ve heard of it happening. But very rarely. Getting hired by a guard/reserve unit is hard enough. Then getting thru all the wickets (getting hired, AFRC board if reserves, waivers/ETPs, FC1, ARB, scroll (if reserves), appointment/oath, and any hiccups along the way, and trying to time that with getting out, is tough. HRC wants too much lead time, and they don’t like moving stuff around. When I got out 4 years ago they required 12 months from the time they receive it (which took a month to route up the chain) to my terminal leave date. So it was basically 15 months. I think it’s a little shorter now but it’s still ridiculous and they are inflexible once you do it. If you can get an army guard or reserve unit to temporarily take you, I’ve heard it’s signifcantly easier to make the transfer happen with no break in service. But that’s another step in the process that has its own issues and has to work out just right. If the ANG/USAFR is what you want, go for it and try to make everything work as best you can, but I think it’ll be tough to line it up. Going straight Army AD to ANG/AFR. Not impossible, but will require HRC to be flexible, and a lot of luck. Just my $.02 personally and talking to guys who have done it are doing it currently, but maybe with the EFMP situation it could help.

Got a AD army commissioned bro going to UPT in the reserves. The method he had to use was UQR from the army (separate completely) and then swear in the following day. He coordinated a UPT date with HRC for his sep date from the army. Had it about as locked as you could get, and now his UPT date got pushed 5 months or so, so he’s scrambling to get his sep date pushed, but will likely have a break in service and will be funemployed for a while. I’m coming off a 4 year break in service, and my dates have been all over the place as well, with multiple changes to my “penciled in” dates as I’ve waited on the various wickets during the very painful accessions process. Fortunately I have a lot of flexibility with my civilian job so it doesn’t matter, but if you get on with a guard or reserve unit plan on at least a year from getting hired to starting pilot training, even as a non-OTS prior rated guy. For reference I got hired in October last year will maybe start a year after that due to a short fall slot that opened. Otherwise I’d be looking at February-ish. Things that took a while were getting the age/TFCS ETPs, getting board paperwork together for the AFRC board, getting an FC1 scheduled, completed, and approved, getting the scroll completed (reserve thing only I think), getting the ARB done, and getting sworn in (AFRC recruiting wouldn't let me swear in until the ARB was complete, and that took 3-4 months from my submission to being approved). Anyway, you may have more luck than some of us going thru the process now, but it’s a long painful process with a bunch of timeline uncertainty and changes, so I’d count on the same and have a backup plan since army separations dates are not that flexible. Not sure on the guard side but I imagine their wickets are probably similar. Getting hired by a unit also took a really long time as not many wanted to mess with age ETPs for me. Been a long road for sure.

https://www.liveatc.net/search/?icao=kosh Scroll about half way down, click on one of the options for: KOSH Fisk VFR Approach. Also using the free FlightRadar24 app on the phone to watch the lineup of airplanes coming in. Seems to have calmed down over the past hour. There was a big crush of airplanes this morning, but it's thinned out.

I was put on the scroll in August and 7 months later I still haven't been approved. Anyone have any recommendations? Is there someone I could call or visit to process my scroll?

Start the scroll ASAP. You should be able to do it by emailing the reserve recruiter; it can take ~4 months, and there’s no harm in having it done.

Oops... didn't scroll down that far. Still doesn't address the concerns of whether it has been tested using pressurized O2 and yes, as other people have mentioned, what about comms? What about the exposed kneck? This mask was designed for the conventional chem suit with hood that zips and buttons up around your kneck. Anyway, probably all things they've thought of already not mentioned in the article.

Has anyone here had to submit an Aeronautical Review Board (ARB) packet as part of their accessions? I’m getting ready to separate from the Army and I’m being told that I cannot take my oath (scroll is approved and 1288 is signed) until my ARB is approved, but I can’t find anything in the AFI that says it must be approved, just that I have to go through one out of AFI 36-2005 paragraph 7.4.5 current as of August 2017. Any clarity or help would be appreciated! Thanks!!

Hmm I'll have to have my recruiter check mine. I was also put on the scroll in mid December. Off topic... Does anyone know if the retirement will transfer over to the reserves like it has in the past (years of service translated to points) with this new blended retirement crap now existing? I feel like it would but I'm concerned sneaky AF may have snuck something in where palace chase would be treated like a new ascension and forced onto the blended. No one in finance at my base knows and they have no good source to help me on this.

Figures. Det 6 has some public page briefings. Maybe there's something in there that will help. http://www.arpc.afrc.af.mil/HQRIO/Detachments/Detachment-6/ Scroll down to "RESOURCES" and open the "Force Development Briefings" menu. They've done a couple on Officer Promotions and they have slides called "How to Get Yourself Promoted."

For anyone trying to figure out timelines; I got the news about my Scroll approval today. Submitted around the middle of December. Back in the PC office's hands for final approval.

anyone still waiting on the scroll? There have been 3 that I know of since May but mine still has not gone...my ISR said he put me on some special VSP scroll that was supposed to be done in september but apparently still hasnt.

Scrimp, Mine would have been the 5-7 days. Got the email on the 7th day that they were ready to process it, but I'm still not Scroll approved so they cannot until that happens.

Friend of mine wrote this, some of you might recognize him, tell me what you think? It’s in defense of 2A. https://www.lawenforcementtoday.com/ar-15-raise-aircraft-carrier-predator-drone/ have to scroll to top of page

Palace front here....my biggest issue is getting scrolled. I was added to the scroll list in may and the ISR at my last base (on terminal now) still is saying he doesn't know if my scroll will happen by my 29 sep DOS and says it might be Oct or Nov.....yet other guys I know are added after and already scrolled.....

AFRES Timeline (prior commissioned officer with no IFS req) Board: 09JAN, notified two ish weeks later Put on the scroll same week. FC1: got an email 22JAN with dates for it, completed 07MAR Dates: got an email 09FEB with UPT dates ENJJPT Class 2019006 - 22MAY18-13JUN19 Future admin dates: 03APR Gained by 340th 17-19APR TDY to Randolph for Inprocessing Report to Sheppard NLT 08MAY Anyone else going to Sheppard for these dates? All future dates written in sand obviously. I won’t believe it until I have orders in hand.

I was picked up on this month's unsponsored board and I'm hoping to track t38s. Will I have any influence in this decision? Also, I already have my FC1 and am on the scroll. Approximately how much time exists until I can expect to get orders for OTS? Additional info: I'm currently enlisted guard and am in the process of transferring to the 340th. Things are moving forward and I feel close. Just looking for specifics or insight.

Go be a pilot man! I have zero regrets and some of the proudest moments in my life were in an Air Force aircraft. However, have you considered the guard or reserves? Scroll through the threads to see all the shinanigans on active duty. You’re tying yourself to a 10 year commitment and you have no clue what aircraft you will fly. I strongly recommend looking into some guard or reserve units. You can still serve your country and fly military aircraft without some of the admin headache of active duty.

Go under blue four news, then scroll down to the Mishap Summary Briefs (MSB). It should be one of the top two

Are you sure its 30%? Take the MEB and run, you will get your annuity immediately and TRICARE, the VA may rate you higher and you could potentially make more money. Scroll down to hip replacement, looks like 30% in the end, it also says TDRL, which means they can put you back on active duty if you get better. http://www.militarydisabilitymadeeasy.com/hipandthigh.html